Hello Folks!  Why is there  so much black hate in Phoenix?  Just about all the ads say no black men, hell even black women say no black men.  I guess we are put in a category of stereotypes where if one is a pimp then they all must be.  I know everyone has their rights and I respect that but man this is a dangerous place.  What happened to the good old days?

One of the ladies on this board replyed back that they more than likely had pimps. She actually called the lady that this other guy was asking about and found out that was in deed the case. I seen a lot of that recently on BP but not from the lady's here.  But this is just my two and a half cents

To be honest from my experience in this adult industry I would say 80% of providers are turned out by their black bf's whom are really their pimps, so daddy says no black men because he does not want the competition.  No one wants to loose their work, or $.

Yes, there are studies out there on the relationships between a pimp and his girls  

I can certainly relate to your frustration,  but I can assure you that "all"  are not like that.  I am a gentleman of color, and a well respected hobbyist.  I visit the area from time to time due to family. There are many wonderful Ladies in the area that will gladly see you, provided you have the proper credentials for verification.
There are many reasons under the Sun, that some of the ladies have an NBA Policy.  You'll make yourself crazy trying to rationalize or get angry about it.  The way I view it, it's their prerogative, regardless of what you believe or think.  After all, it's not like keeping you from an education, job, equal pay, or etc.  It's their personal body.  What frustrates me are the ladies that have that policy but don't tell you.  I can at least appreciate the up front honesty and respect for my time.  I've always chosen to be thankful to those who make it known up front so as not to waste my valuable time or hers, and move on and focus on the wonderful ladies that will see me. That way it's a much more enjoyable mutual experience.  Just my two cents worth, and Happy Hobbying my Friend .

I am a former professional athlete.  That's interesting to hear that a professional athlete would ask for freebies.  It was interesting to me when I was in the league that guys would even pay.  Are you kidding me!?!?!  Hell, I was coming off the bench and never even considered paying cause the opportunities were so vast and plentiful.  I went periods where I conciously took breaks from doing the nasty...lol.  I was like a kid in the candy store.

There's plenty of people here who are not close minded and do not see or judge people by a stupid color or stereotype. I for one only look to see if you have the right plumbing to snake my drain and that you're not an asshole.

I typically don't comment on the board, but I just happen to be very intrigued by this discussion. First off, i'm black. Secondly, both Patricia and Summer Stacks are dead on in their assessments as to why so many white providers refuse to see black men. I wanted to add a few other perspectives to the discussion. I have also noticed the plethora of ads specifying "No African American Men" that have recently popped up. In addition to the whole pimping phenomenon, there are also women that are turned off by the way they are consistently approached by a lot of black men seeking companionship. You couple that with the many bad experiences some providers have had when actually seeing a black hobbyist, then it is no wonder so many providers are hesitant. I visit Vegas twice a month and BOTH of the providers I see RARELY see black men. I don't blame them at all after hearing some of their stories. To any black guys reading this thread, I want you to keep this in mind: Always use he utmost professionalism and respect when contacting ANY provider. You are already dealing with stereotypes that are unfairly projected upon you by the media and pop culture. Sad but true. Your approach and demeanor should negate those stereotypes, and immediately put her at ease and  make her feel as though you are someone who she would really like to meet and spend time with.  And a little flattery never hurt anyone. Here's the funniest part of this whole discussion. Over the course of about 2 1/2 years I have actually seen, and continue to see  providers who don't see black men. I always chuckle when I see their ad runs even today with the the infamous disclaimer "No African American," knowing that I just had another blistering session with them. True story: Of the 11 providers I have contacted AFTER seeing their ad, 1 have seen 9. Of the other 2 that  would not see me,  one was actually named Aryan, as in White Aryan Resistance/White Power. Her family are white supremacists. She was courteous, kind, and we ended up taking for about 10 about her and her family's beliefs. Talk about a fascinating conversation. She said that it was because of how she was raised that she couldn't see me. Personally she didn't hate black people, but Her family had simply instilled their beliefs in her and she simply couldn't get past it. I remember when she answered the phone she asked me "didn't you notice that my name was actually "Aryan?" Even though her ad had specified no black men, I still didn't put 2 and 2 together. Duh! We both chuckled about that. As you can see I love a challenge. But even the best of us strike out sometimes.  Just my 2 cents.

...I follow hobby boards and BP all over the country and it's not just in Phoenix where women ask black men not to even bother calling them. It's common all over the country. Treat her like the goddess she is! She's not your Bitch and she's not your Ho! She's a goddess and deserves to be treated like one. How hard is that? Since you've found this board I assume you're as intelligent and affluent as the rest of us. I'm not criticizing you or how you treat women because I have no idea who you are or how you like to hobby but if you come on this board and claim to represent a certain group of people then I'll say "Clean up your act!". It starts with you, today. This topic has been debated ad nauseum over the years and it's welcomed when upright black men like you act respectfully toward all women.

Oh so true!

Have u looked around the S.W. here?

Hey guy, there is one thing you said that is the truth and that is you don't know me. "Clean up your act"?  I am well educated and like employed in an affluent company in  the area and have never been mean or cruel to a woman.  It is like saying all white men are good to women but you see on the news where white men flat out abuse women beat their women and rape their kids.  What I am saying is that why vilify someone because of their color when it is easy to get a reference.  I go to Vegas now when I want to play.  I use to have fun here but hey, change is good

That's not true about having no game.  Just think about this...when Kobe got horny in Colorado and slept with that girl...what would have been better for him.....to drop 500-1000 on an escort...who probably 99.7% would never say anything.....or a groupie...who will or might hollar rape, or become a jump off who squeals your business, intentionally try and get pregnant,...etc.  I was an ex athlete also...it was thrown at me...at first it was nice then I realized the headaches that came or could.....I rather drop the 500 then the 5 mil + Kobe did.

So true!  And most escorts get regular check ups..the good ones.....you have no ideal what a groupie...it was eye opening when my friend got burned

Thanks for your reply...could not say it better.  Not going to get into a debate...but all races have members that have done some crazy stuff.  That's like saying since most serial killers are white, there is justification for not seeing someone.  I do appreciate the warning that thebgirls are using....because I have been a victim of setting up an appointment, waiting the time, driving to location....and no oh I don't see black guys...actually two times I talked my way in...and girls said they had one of their best experience..  I would rather for the girls to require verification before lumping me into a group....but like a provider said once when had a post like this......is that someone you would want to see anyway?

it is because some of the ladies just couldn't handle the large penis of a African American male. Hmmmm

You made an excellent point.  Well put

What can you attribute it to?  Fortunantly I did not have a problem getting a date prior to my Athlete life along having older Uncles, Cousins and Homies educate me on women and the dating/booty chasing game.  So maybe that experience allowed me to develop an ability to at least be in the ball park of "knowing how to pick-em."  Sure you have the risk of the Gold Digger, STD filled babe, etc but they tend to give themselves away fairly quickly.

No Issue  here with AA..
they need my fun just as much as any one