Within the last week a well known escort who regularly posts "disappeared" profile pulled here and on other sites.  

LE was harassing her about not having a escort license.  They got her CC info from BP and then her address.  They googled her phone number and copied all her ads on various sites from that.

She had a visit from two detectives and claimed they had copies of her ads from all the sites she was on.   She then pulled them since they did not list any escort license number in violation of the escort licensing law.

She says:
 You can warn the girls that they are not going away.  The one detective told me they work full time and are trying to clean up the community. He was young and cocky so is for sure trying to make a name for himself. He seemed hell bent on taking down as many girls as he could.  

The escort is retiring saying it isn't worth the legal risks any more.  Exactly what LE is trying to do in its attack on private consenting adults.  

More on you know where trying to get finished up tonight

While I'm not doubting you, well kind of I am, lol...I find it hard to believe that BP would just give up CC #'s without search warrants etc...and why would they pick this girl out of the hundreds on their daily...

They often serve Subpoena Dues Tecum on Village Voice (Backpage) office which is in Phoenix.
 
in the Temple case I have the 850 pages that is in evidence from BP in the Phoenix Temple case.  It traces all the payments made to prove who paid for ads.  

She advertised frequently on TER -police had TER and Provider Report ads.   LE is being very aggressive to clean out the especially upper level sexworkers.

Thanks for the info.

Without CC infor to fish for an addr, what other routes can they chase down?

Any guesses on how many hours they consume closing down one person?

Does anyone making allocation of underfunded LEO resources have a basic grasp of simple Micro or Macro economics?

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Is an add under an escort segment of a web site proof of being an escort? Or is the add(s) and an income stream necessary?

If an add, appears under an escort heading, touts some type of counseling service, does it become an escort add?

In advance, thank you for your time and knowledge.

I realize that there aren't any definitive answers until the highest court makes a ruling.

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It appears that every murder, bank robbery, hit and run, identity theft, kidnapping, rape, and cattle rustling case that has ever existed in Phoenix has been completely solved.  Since they have the resources to assign not just one, but two detectives work a case of an escort who is escorting without a license.   Maybe after they are done working that case, they can work the case of harassing the blind man who is panhandling with an accordion and a monkey without the proper license.

And not bitch at very post you made.

Thanks Dave for the info looks like we all need to be very vigilant these days

Huge LE funding to fight "trafficking" from Justice Dept (consenting adults is "trafficking") And millions going to the rescue industry.  

As reported you know where, LE is using all sorts of techniques to find locations, sending in undercovers with fake references and intimidating workers to give them their access to major sites.  Also if have suspected location will detain customers and run license plates of everyone that comes or goes.  They lurked in parking lot recording all cars at Temple and Studio for many months.  

They will brag about how they are "saving" prostitutes and ridding the city of alleged related crimes (drugs, dangerous people) and of course STD's they argue to justify.

In the Temple case there are about 50 different officers part of the investigation named in discovery as potential witnesses.  It is estimated well over $1 million has been spent on the Temple case including data forensically recovered from 38 computers (all the gals and at Temple) that had far more data recovered than can be put on largest drives ( about 10TB as I recall)  and most of it the judge said couldn't be used - 100,000+ pages.   Yet rape kits get unprocessed.  

Money wasted is no object to the Country Attorney to be sure there is no healthy safe sexwork in Maricopa Cty - that is so offensive to those that know what is best for us.

If they find an escort that owns a house, car or anything of value will do a RICO seizure like in DD and earlier massage busts where a escort had to buy the equity in her home for $50k and another gal had $20k taken - even when all charges were dropped could not recover the RICO actions (Sheriff Joe massage bust long ago)

Yes busts are being made solely from ads if they have terms like GFE or other known illegal sexual abbreviations.  There are ways to have clean ads like counseling or companionship for an hourly fee for companionship.  One should never call to ask pricing, it should be in ad for time and no mention of GFE or sexual terms or an easy bust.

For prostitution has to be an offer of sex for money- like GFE - as I've often discussed a Temple gal laying in bed with a cop but never said the wrong thing no matter how hard the cop tried.  Sadly got her on criminal association and took a felony plea to avoid prison recently.  But no prostitution charge which would have been far less serious just 15 days in jail but no felony record.  

Scottsdale new law really bad.  Can not ask to "get comfortable" any more or likely bust

She would complain every time you posted so it is very ironic now that you are posting about her and LE.

Thank you Dave for keeping us all informed.

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Wow! I'm glad I'm not in Phx!

I've read all your posts carefully. You're indication there is much surveillance including stakeouts (at incall & outcall location) where License Plates are run (men & women) to determine identities. You're saying heavy pressure and interview tactics are being used on people to seek out possible heavier indictment scenarios.

This would indicate that once a woman is targeted and contacted, that any information she has about other women or men, may be at risk of getting into LE hands allowing them to "follow a chain" in search of info for bigger busts.

Doesn't that say that is you were a client of such a woman, that you are now at a specific and higher risk of being contacted? So, why not give the specific information of who you are talking about. It seems that is not unlike finding out that a porn star provide has HIV. You need to know WHO it is to know if YOU are at risk.

As it is now, when I travel back to the valley, I'm booking with NO ONE

And to correct you Scottsdale is EAST valley not west.

BUT more importantly I do not advertise on the WEST VALLEY.

1) Guys have almost no risk vs gals unless you pick up a street hooker, or respond to a one-time BP ad which may be a sting.

2) Avoid risks by never paying for sex - that would be illegal unquinely in the U.S. vs most of the world. You can enjoy time with a companion but you can not pay for sex.  

3) There isn't much going "up the chain" unless the gal works for an agency/massage place etc. However there are exceptions especially in the last few weeks and those have been warned about but in the private forum.  

4) I've had the private list in Phx since 1996 and now about 350 companions get it free. Over the years I know many of them by phone and e-mail, although my physical interests are different than most (intimacy more than the sex stuff and find it easier in Canada, although been while).   Gals trust me with keeping their names private and I doubt any that I know would work with LE to make them a risk.  

I also review police records, attend Court hearings (especially for Temple) and have been a sexual freedom/rights advocate for decades even without any financial benefit and rarely seeing gals for companionship since so hard to find my interests in all the "juicy" reviews (which often wind up in police reports).  Actually I do more at strip clubs in the last few years.  

Bottom line I respect privacy which is why so many companions share information with me privately and I warn others keeping the sources private unless they want to be known.

Davephx is saying  LE is hot on this new law.  They are on a moral crusade, if you will. That got me interested, so I read the law. It's really something, all right. Read the new law: It says if the escort ad can be seen in Scottsdale you are in violation.

Back to my original question: Here is your ad text clearly found under escorts---

Hi Guys,  

I am Misty a 5'7" short haired ...

Misty
480-331-2525  
NO TEXTS ACCEPTED OR ANSWERED  
Poster's age: 48

• Location: East Valley, Tempe  

• Post ID: 6106328 phoenix

So, according to Dave, and the law, and your promoting that you offer escort in "East Valley" they have basis to get your personal info from BP -- 'cause of your ad. That new law along with inter-agency reciprocity means they can come to YOUR residence and confront you. Or run surveillance and stop the guys that visit you and pressure them. Boy would that suck!  

So, again I ask...  are you concerned at all

I was listening to a CATO podcast recently on these civil forfeitures.  They to me are CLEARLY unconstitutional -- and sooner or later, We the People are just going to have to put a stop to it ourselves.  

It seems way too often the cops pick and choose who to go after based on their assets, because they can seize them.  And States where LE is LIMITED by LAW on these actions, just partner with the FEDS and get a large percentage kicked back to them by Eric Holder

Can you find any ad on BP or anywhere else that has an escort number license?

The law is designed to be impossible for anyone to actually comply with - its a gimmick and could probably be challenged as can the overly broad Arizona prostitution law.  Just need about $100,000 in legal fees ready for the fight.  

Or the pubic to wake up on the $millions spent going after in private consenting adults that have nothing to do with children or coerced "trafficking".  

Its a big sham to rake in money and win conservative religious political points.  It puts women at risk. and in private consenting adult prostitution legal and no big deal in almost all the rest of the world that have more freedoms.  

But in Phoenix there is no sex for money that would be illegal uniquely but too easy to be trapped and confuse companionship of time (just like all the sugar daddy dating sites) with illegal prostitution (sex for the money).

Well said Waynemtexas1.

Now if someone just had about $100,000 for legal fees, one could probably bring a good case, lose in lower Court, maybe win or not at 9th Circuit and see if Supreme Court would hear the case.

There are many grounds to fight the prostitution law (especially AZ's) but no one has the resources to fight in court.   At least it is front of a Maricopa Superior Court judge now in one case along with other issues but who know when or what ruling will be (pretrial motion).

I'm not sure anyone can remain "vigilant" against these laws IF the C.O.S PD decides to go after them. It appears that they can at least come at you with only an advertisement that indicates escort and Scottsdale. Plus, cops always push boundaries and break rules. They intimidate, and even falsify what you say to them. Then prosecutors plea you down. Unless you fight all the way to trial you dont get to challenge the legality of how they investigated and handled you.

If someone thinks they have heard your warning and can "be extra careful" to remain safe, they are foolin themselves.  Pointing that out is far from harassment. Don't be such a white knight here. It's not needed.

If I were a provider, I'd be worried about advertising. Besides, this is exactly what they want. They know they wont stop it, but they want to drive it underground and away from the public eye. That's all they have to do to appear successful to the public

You are full of yourself. It's obvious to anyone who reads your posts.  You look for an audience, and now that you've found one here, you just can't stop.  You're also a white knight, unless you have something against someone. But worse, you mix good information with speculation (sometimes wild) and incorrect information. You simply revel in the idea that "o many companions share information with me privately." There's your real motivation.

Is there any way to establish an organization to raise those funds?  there seems to be charities to support just about everything now, including an organization to skirt campaign funding laws so that contributors do not have to be disclosed.

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I heard a rumor once that one needed a license to sell marajuana, without the license one would get arrested.  Of course no licenses were available.  
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