Mya,

Wow. I never knew there was tension. You definitely handle everything very well and professional. I am happy to see that you really went out on a limb to extend the invitation to the party- and I respect you that much more for posting it here on the board. Shows you really want to bury things and I hope it works out as planned.

Kisses,
Tina

I toast to Taylor Lynn & Mya... Yup, it's time for you both to co-excist in peace on this board. I love you both.

Being new to the "community", I thought it might be worth offering the perspective of an outsider who just happens to read the postings and comment occasionally.  

There are over 5 million people in Phoenix, with many hundreds of thousands more that vacation and visit on an annual basis.  Perhaps it's just my imagination that there are enough local "hobbyists" and visitors to support a number of quality agencies.  Reading through the numerous posts from the past makes it sound like there is some type of war going on for business in Phoenix.  Isn't there plenty of business to be had without tearing apart one another?  

Bottom line from what I can tell is that both Taylor and Mya have a great group of girls and provide a variety in pricing and flexibility.  To me this is a good thing for the industry.  Reviews of the ladies speak for themselves (most of the time).  When you think about it, an agency is really a means to an end.  If the phone is answered, appointments are prompt, the girls are courteous and provide good service, that's where I'll make my purchase.  Good service and quality builds trust that transcends changing of staff or revamping the look and feel of a company.

It's really no different than coffee.  If you really like Starbucks, and find Peetes good too, but all you can find is a Peetes, you'll stop into Peetes because you know the coffee is good and so is their service  ( see the two agency parallel here).  Occassionally there is a special blend that perhaps you'll favor for a while, but in the end, it's all about having choices.  Being an avid coffee lover, you'll always want to know which quickie mart serves skunky coffee (the cash and dash of the world) when you're on the road.    

As a local, I'm not confused.  I see there is a past, have discussed the past, and it doesn't really affect my decision to use either agency.  As a non-local (a good chunk of business, I would assume) I would be confused if I only used the boards to base my decision.  It's just not worth the time.  

I'm not saying you have to kiss, hug and make up (might be entertaining!!), but take a moment and examine what benefit there is to it all.  Life's too short.... A month from now, a year from now, five years from now, no one is really going to know about the past, much less care.  They'll just see a couple of solid agencies run by strong women with a desire to make men happy.

In lieu of everything I've written, if there is still a doubt as to what is the right thing to do.... I'd suggest an indian leg wrestling match.  The winning agency gets the bragging rights.  Just think of it... we could sell tickets, drinks and food and donate the money to the favorite non profit group of the winning lady.  Hmmmm... what kind of undercard could we have here?  

Enjoy!!!

Mike

Let’s see…why should I bury the hatchet with someone who…

1. Purposely took business cards from every client she saw so she could call them when she went off on her own.  Towards the end she even told them she was leaving and starting her own agency – read her reviews!  IF someone wanted to see you, I'm sure they could have found you the HONEST way.
2. Told my girls lies about me so she could take them when she left. That’s how the whole Jordan/Sydney Paige thing started.  I also heard things from others who chose not to believe her.
3. Tried to take my phone operators (she did get one who I was about to fire anyway, big deal on that one).  The others decided to stay.
4. Is STILL calling my girls.  Even girls who can’t stand her and have told her so through email.  
5. Started lies about me on this board and others.  Here’s proof:

Staff wrote on 3/4/2004
Turns out that Mya and Jorden, formerly of TLC, created the following accounts:

BazookaJoe4U,
KURUPTOR1,
HeavenlyBody,
MrBigNSeattle2,
BOATMAN69,
PLAYR4U,
SPENCER90, and many others.

They used these account to submit reviews of themselves and bash TLC on the message board.  I have banned all account involved and de-listed everyone involved with this fraud.

6. Told independents lies about me such as “she tried to break into my house”, “she called the cops on me” and “she called the IRS on me”.  Give me a break.  If I wanted to start things, all I have to do is call my laywer.  Remember your contracts???
7. Had TER members that never did business with me write lies about me to support her story. Strange that they never posted or said anything about me until they started doing business with her.
8. JUST THE OTHER DAY told an someone that they had the wrong impression of Taylor Lynn.  (Their impression was and still is a good one).  Oh, and she also threatened this person saying that she could get them banned.  How's that for "playing nice"??

Oh how I could go on, but I think you get the picture.  I won’t ever start on all the things I think are wrong with her “agency”, or what I call, her self made shrine.  All you have to do is look at the photos and who’s in the background to know whom she cares about.  Agency owners are suppose to care about their girls and getting them calls, not answering the agency phone and saying “she’s not available, but I am.”  (Proof is in HER reviews!) I do have to give her credit for hatching that plan though.  It is definitely getting HER more business.

I am not jealous and I welcome competition. I don't expect every hobbyist to use my agency.  I do, however, I play nice with those who play nice with me and keeping a stack of business cards for a rainy day is not playing nice.  Ask anyone.  I have great relationships with all of the independents and work with them whenever they need it. I honestly can’t handle all the calls I get and would love to be able to give some of them to another agency.  However, as the saying goes…

Screw me once, shame on you.  Screw me twice, shame on me.  I WILL NOT let that hatchet get buried in my back once again!  

Boys, I see no reason for you to fret over this.  See who you want to see and do what you want to do.  There is room for both of us but there is no room for lies and deceit in my world.  I WILL NOT ALLOW it back in.

There are so many great things in life to look forward to and we all have regrets that we would love to change or even just forget.  When things happen between friends, coworkers, acquaintences and even family, there is no reason to consistently dwell on the past.  

Things happen, words are said, conversations are turned around to make things look worse than they ever were and as always, people tend to get hurt easily when they hear that things were said about them.  Conversations between females always tend to be read into more than any conversation you will ever have with a male.  Women take things personally and tend to believe outside sources instead of going straight to the source of the problem.  I think that life is really way to short for anyone to hold grudges, especially those grudges that are so impersonal and not really that close to the actual truth.  

I feel that we, as a community, should honor all the differences we have, embrace those that want to be associated with this honest community and those that do not want to partake in being honest, having open communication, and not taking the little things in life so person should not associate themselves in the community that we have all worked so hard to create.  


I know that there are several people whom I have had my differences with in the past.  However those people are the type that could care less about talking things over and setting the story straight. Instead they choice to dwell on petty indifferences in the past and believe outside sources that are generally not as accurate as the source.  Wasting your time trying to mend the broken ties, never seems to work when the other party is too wrapped up in the he said/ she said to look at the whole picture.  Sometimes all you want to say is that you are sorry for whatever had happened, and they wont even give you that time of day.  For them it is all about holding the grudge, having a reason to blame someone else for what went wrong.  Where does that attitude ever really get anyone???


If you sit around and keep up with the gossip instead of getting up and making things happen, you will end up wasting your life worrying about all the other people out there and not about yourself.  Ultimately in the end you will be alone, unhappy and so wrapped up in others opinions that you will have done nothing for yourself.

Let the past stay in the past, let the present be the key to your future...and live today like it was your last!!!


Just my two cents...
Hugs,
Madison

You knew Taylor long enough to know she wouldn't go to the party in the first place (yet you still invited her).  You know she is not stupid enough to give you prime access to her girls again....I mean come on......you are OBVIOUSLY just trying to make her out to be the bad guy and on a public board at that....give it a rest.

And the idea of sticking all of the providers in phoenix into the same room at once, what kind of thinking is that?  What was the point of that?  I think any necessary "reference coordinating" (which could be the only thing GAINED) could be handled via phone?

-- Modified on 9/25/2004 10:47:35 AM

Seriously now, I'm sure that if someone screwed you the way your friend screwed me (read post under Jackson4117 for some of the details!), you wouldn't just forgive and forget.  In this business the past doesn't stay in the past and I'm not going to be stupid enough to let people who were enemies from the get go come back into my life and prove it to me again.  YOu know me better than that.  If I let every single girl that called me wanting back into my company/life after they screwed me over, I'd have 100 girls working with me!  Including a couple that are on the QTs website.  

I don't say anything about her, she doesn't need to say anything about me and that is that.  There is room enough for both and I feel there is no need for "making up" because I don't trust her as far as I can throw her.

She is making this public to make herself look better when all the while she is the one who caused all the problems.  Maybe she should apologize for all the things she did.  That is the ONLY way I would even THINK about making up.  Oh, and since she made this public, the apology would have to be public, of course.

Honestly,
I must throw my two cents in on this.  I am not in this to pick fights, but I feel that I know both sides of this, and I think I can give a non-biased opinion on this issue.  

I worked for Taylor for over a year and really enjoyed working with her.  She is a strong, independent woman who knows how to run a solid business.  She had wonderful ladies working with her at that time, and we would all get together on occasion to mingle.  

I have also worked with other agencies in the valley, there have always been the catty arguments, the upsetting comments thrown at each other out of anger, but in the end, where does that get any of us??  

I have started working with Mya, to allow more time towards my studies at school, which allows me to do that from home while answering phones.  I can personally say from working with her, that no calls are being taken from any of the ladies that work with her, and the girls are not made to feel like they are working for an agency.  There are many calls coming in for the ladies based on the good reputation THEY have.  The girls are great, they are not flaky, and they all enjoy working with us.  I don't feel that anything is being stolen from any of the girls.  Mya has put her own business on hold for the girls, and they have always come first when dealing with the their business.  She has put a lot of sweat into making this work, and just because she is sucessful, does not mean that there needs to be any tension in the community.  A little competition should never be a threat, in my opinion.


Mya and I were not trying to throw a huge "recruiting" party, and that was not the intention of this.  The intention was that there were many new and already popular independents and traveling ladies in town that kept expressing how nice it would be to meet the other ladies out there, to put a face with the name so to speak.  The only ladies that were new to the community were three ladies that I had brought to the party to form their own opinoin of the business and decide if this was right for them.  If anything, there were more independents than anyone else at the party.

The only reason all this drama keeps lingering in the air is because the community will not let it be.  There was not one bad word spoken at the party, all the ladies were able to get along for over 5 hours in the same house and make some new friends.  What was the harm in that??  Being friendly in a business like this should not be frowned upon just because some people are not partial to being part of the rest of the community.

As I see it, there are ladies that are in this business to have fun, make some new friends, female and male, and enjoy a successful, exciting life.  On the other hand, there are people who cannot put on a smile, do not want to make friends and are only here for the money.  If that is the case, then make your money and keep to yourself.  Mya and I were only trying to be friendly and offer a nice, relaxing atmosphere for all the wonderful ladies in the phx area to come together for one night and have a few laughs, with no pressure attached.  

I have become friends with Mya over the past few months, and still remain in contact with Taylor every now and then.  I think both ladies are incredibly strong, independent, determined women.  If we are all going to co-exist in this community, can we please just stop all this drama and let things be??  Like the others said, there is enough to go around and enough ladies to support the need.  There is no reason for all of us to keep dragging this on and on till we are all blue in the face and everyone is seen as someone elses enemy??
The guys could probably care less about all this arguing back and forth and probably see this whole mess as very childish.  Lets just treat today as what it is....a new day, and a fresh start!

There is no reason why we cannot all be in this without constantly trying to place digs in each others backs.

Please???  For the sake of the community???  Just let things be and move on????

Whats done is done and no "im sorry" is going to patch that up at this point.  Lets all remember that we are all grown ups and we should be handling this as adults!!
Do you think that every business that has ever existed has never had a competitor to deal with???  I doubt that!


Anyhow,
Just thought I would try and throw in my thoughts

Hugs, Madison

Getting nice, fun girls that have a common interest together for a party!  Innocent fun...God, why is everyone so jaded?  There doesn't always have to be an ulterior motive.

It hasn't been Taylor dragging this out.....she has only responded accordingly to posts and slander in her own defense.  And just when we think the posts have stopped........they just start up again??????  Taylor has better things to do with her time than to start things up again.  She has tried to let it die many times.  

Let a dead dog lie.

If it was just good clean fun, then why go to the extreme of posting on a public board the fact that Taylor did not attend?  IMHO just to make her look bad again out of jealousy.

I like to have fun too but 30 hustlers in one room?  Waaaaaay too much information flowing.  I am not into the gossip scene.  To each their own.

Words from a traveler here.  I decided against calling either agency due to the public bickering.  It's not that I don't think either offers a good selection of women, because that's simply not true.  It's just when anything "shady" goes on, I steer clear for a while.

The bottom line is that these boards are here for adults looking to have fun.  Maybe we should try sticking to that and leave the bickering for private emails.

Also, I'd be all for the leg wrestling as long as I could purchase front row seats.

I was going to go through all your posts and rip them to shreads with facts instead of the fiction that you write, but I really don't have the time, energy or desire.  Leave me and my girls alone.  I am friendly with everyone who is friendly to me, as are they.  I've met many independents and offer help and references to everyone who respects and helps me in return.  I have no problem with your party and refused to go because I want no dealings with the person who hosted it.  If it would have been someone else, party on!!  You know how I love a party.  However, I will not be manipulated and lied to again by someone who I knew from the start was no good.  I should have trusted my instincts.  I've learned my lesson and won't do that ever again.  I will never trust your friend.  I will be civil because I am a professional and business is business, but I want nothing to do with her.  Period, the end of the story.

I'm all for a good party.  The party wasn't and will never be the issue.  I'm sure you all had a great time.  I'm friendly with all the independents and have no problems with get togethers.  However, I know myself and being around someone who I can't trust is something that I will not do.  Sorry if I sound jaded or catty, but that is the way it is.  I don't let people who screwed me over back into my life, especially when it has to do with my business.  I'm not jealous or afraid of competition.  That has nothing to do with this.  The past cannot be erased and will not go away.      

As I said before, screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me.  She should have thought it through before she did all the manipulatve things she did.  Ever heard of Karma???

Lets get some positive energy back on this board!!!!

I agree with you Isabella!
This is all being taken way to far!

In this business everyone is in it for themselves, or for some reason...usually the obvious.  However, anytime someone decides to do something nice to involve the community or someone else, it comes back and is made to look like there was another reason for the help or the nice gesture.

Seriously,
Did any of the ladies at the party feel like there was any other reason to be there??  Anyone walking around trying to recruit anyone??  If so, I dont think anyone had anything shoved down their throats, offers that is, from other agencies.  There was mingling, fun, lots of shopping, lots of laughs and smiles......I dont think I noticed any frowns in the room that night!!!  Did I miss something??

Anyhow.....Just drop the whole issue!
It is getting way out of hand....the only reason most of us care, is becuase we all know one, or both of you..and hate to see this kind of anger between people that used to be friends.  Regardless of the past....just move on!  Business is business!  We are all adults...lets act like it!

There is enough business to go around....put on a smile...and go about your business as usual....everyone!!!

I hate to sound so rude, but this has really dragged on for way too long.  

Lets get something positive on these boards!!!!


The sun is shining, the weather is cooling down...and I am having a great day today!!!
                             ....ANYONE ELSE?????


Hugs, Madison

If I were you I would have done the same.  There will be no leg wrestling between her and I, but I'm sure I could find a couple of girls who would be a great match up!  Give me a call at 480-282-8585 and I'll be sure you have a great time WITHOUT any drama!!

Taylor