Opened my e-mail today, thought i'd share it with you all.

"You have to be one of the biggest assholes out there Dan. You blocked my threats.Thats Fine. I know where you hang on Fridays in Cave Creek. You have the balls to call me out on the board. Well, I got balls too."

This was pretty tame for tmann. This is the kind of nonsence he does to the ladies. Why do the so many of you girls put up with this bullshit?

Question for everybody is. What do you think about this guy TMAN?
2nd question... Why does TER post this "guys" [edited by Moderator] reviews about the girls on his site? This guy has reviewed a lady i know and he has never even met her. Will people on this board keep excepting this guy? or will you all call him out?

I will continue to share my TMANN threats as they come in.


-- Modified on 11/11/2004 10:49:10 PM

A disturbing development....

As far as I'm concerned a BBS is primarily for the open exchange of information and opinions...everyone...even TMAN is entitled to his/her opinion.

That being said....

We have a series of events here...

TMAN's original post regarding the review attacking the reviewer for what was a legimate if misdirected review.

A 2nd post from a close friend discussing the "drama" and indicating a problem of some kind...where in reality no "problem" exists...IMO its a sutbtle attack on the reviewer again.

If in fact he's now gone and threatened another member of the community (I trust Danny's word completely) it's a further escalation and should be delt with according to whatever the TOS is for the board.

As for the issue of TMAN's reviews....its common knowledge he traded sex for "promotion" for along time here in the valley. I'm to new here to know what the TOS is regarding paid for reviews.

Madison,

From everything I've heard your a wonderful person with lots of good friends on both sides of the community. Don't let a single bad review get you down...no one...and I mean no one can be all things to all people...especially in your profession. TMANs help is truely the last thing you need...now or ever.

that Tman reviewed and she has never had a session with him.  He did it to try and get her to one of his parties...pretty sad.  I hope TER bans him from posting and removes all his reviews! Maybe we should all show up at his sandwich shoppee.

and I tried to understand TMAN's point of view when he first came on the seen with his list. I even tried to tell him why people didn't like the reviews for free sessions. I also told him that he needed to back off on bugging the ladies for free sessions because many didn't like it and were complaining. He wouldn't listen and never stopped all of his bullshit so I have nothing good to say about him either.

His bullshit will stop when everyone stops paying any attention to him ;o)

I treat TMANN reviews with the same merit as reviewers with only one posting. I ignore them. Maybe they're genuine maybe not.

I never knew he had such a violent temper.  ...scary.

peace, AJ

This kind of behavior I would expect if this were a board for pimp daddy wanna be's or TER in the hood or if TER stood for Thugs Erotic Review. However This isn't the hood and most people would agree something is completely wrong when they think threats will assure thier supremacy. These are the very things that the masses turn on pretty rapidly and also provide the kind of attention that no one is this hobby appreciates.  Personal threats are not indicative of a society that we all aspire to live in. Anyone who believes in these things is not someone I wish to be associated with in any way. If a person can't control themselves in these manners how can anyone trust them in any other matters. I have heard from more than one provider about his hard sell and badgering techniques and yes I have heard about his reviews. Making personal threats on another person can't be accepted. It doesn't matter if he intends on following through or not this behavior is deplorable and shouldn't be tolerated.
This behavior sounds like it is spiraling out of control.
I know Danny and I know that he would not make this up. I also know that I have heard from more than one provider who felt pressure and badgering from him. Given all this information I would personally consider him a dangerous element and would not feel safe in having any association with him.

I had the same question.  Why do some providers put up with this guy.  Recently I saw a provider that is always on his post and often gets reviews from him.  I asked why she puts up with him and see told me she was very afraid of what he would do if she didn't cooperate.  I got the idea she just bits the bullet every time she has to see him.  To bad a guy like this is part of the hobby.

I echo the sentiments  posted so far.   There seems to be an ever expanding pattern of disregard for the rights of others. From stories of  coercion,badgering, and implied threats against the ladies  now  threats  directly to another hobbyist. In this land we should be able to express  our ideas  and  go our paths  free of such things .  

While I never met T-man, in addition to the posts I have read here from time to time, I have been told stories by a fair number of providers in this community who are most unappreciative of his style and tactics. No lady should be subject to that kind of badgering or poor behavior. To now have threats being directed to another hobbyist is unnecessary and inappropriate IMHO.

I know of one provider that was invited to his party and she did not want to attend...he then offered a good review for her attendance.  She did not attend his party and has never had an appointment with Tman and he still did the review.

I have heard several bad things about Tman as well. He trades good reviews to get laid.

Danny, you go about flaming people on this board. I have seen it happen a couple times. For instance one provider whom you pretended was not a full service, I met her and guess what? We did it all.

Don't expect people to respect you with this attitude.

Wow, exchanging services for reviews... hmmm... and all of this time I've been exchanging greenbacks for bare-backs.  Hell, and he's not even giving good reviews.  If any provider would really like to exchange her time for an honest review that'll have the erection fairy visit any reader, read a couple of my reviews.  I could even make a cash and dash diva seem like an experience worth experiencing.

The only good experiences ive had in this town are with girls that tman recommended. Ive been in contact with the so called agencies and madam"pimp"clicks in town and they dont even know how to go about the business. I dont know tman, never met him, but id listen to what he had to say.

I hope all is well for you these days! It's good to see old friends come out of the wood work from time to time. Drop me an Email... [email protected]

now of course your talking about vanessa.... I would believe after my post about her not being fs the first time that she is now. Dont know what you mean by pretended, in the case of vanessa it was known fact, you just benefited from that thread, so your welcome i'm always glad to help out hobbiests. When the ladies change for the better it always makes me happy. As for respect, i never asked for it.. as far as attitude, ripoff providers devoloped this for me. Cheers Dan

Thats nice to hear

is it?

Seems like, in all the time I have known Danny (and even before) and read his comments here and elsewhere; through the laughs and outrage and gratitude for an experience enhanced or a disaster avoided, one thing is crystal clear.

If you play it fast and loose, be you hobbyist or provider, agency or independent, he's gonna call you on it.

I have yet to see in all these years, a single instance where there was absolutely no cause at all for his comments and actions, or where what he has said was a patent lie. He and those he associates with have contributed so much, much that most people won't ever hear about, to making the scene out here safe and consistent, for everyone while enjoying the ride. But people don't like being caught when they pull a fast one, a bait and switch, a juiced or coerced review. Whatever. So they rant and rave about him.

Since you asked the rather obvious question what we think of the clearly unhinged T-Man,  instead here is what I think of Danny-I leave the value to the community to decide.

You don't have to like Danny.
He's got his ideas and his opinions,
You dont have to like those either.
You don't have to like his reviews,
Or appreciate his myriad contributions to the hobby.
You don't have to like his manner,
His style, his bluntness.
Or even listen at all.

But, when you find yourself out there, hobbyist or provider, trying to cut corners or pull something shady and he makes you account for it...

Don't whine or justify or threaten or even call him a liar.

Just prove him wrong.

Should be simple enough, yes?
Unless he's not.

You don't have to like Danny.

But, if you really understand the scene, what it was and what it is now, If you ever waited in your living room or a hotel for that knock on the door, ever wondered what to expect from behind the door of that incall place you are walking up to you, ever wondered if that review you read was for real or bought and paid for...

You should thank him.

I know I do.
Every single time.

He's no saint, he's a hobbyist.

Thanks, Danny.
Don't ever stop keeping it real.

Just my opinion:

JustJack

I felt I had to post this. At the top of this page it says:
"Please do not post messages that are simply mean, or meant to cause trouble for trouble's sake. This is not the area to post detailed reviews. Please submit them in the review section. That said, have fun."
It seems like Danny & others are ignoring that. I know you're being honest, but when providers & hobbiests are affraid to post on here, because they will be put down, it no longer is fun.

That's just my opinion,
Vampy

There would be no problem with Danny posting his opinions. He goes beyond that. He post insults. That goes a little further than opinions.Then, when he gets the reaction from his insulting post, he back peddles & post direct correspandence to him on the board to win sympathy.

I went to Danny directly. However, he did fail to mention that he sent a similar email to me threatening me with physical violence a few months back when I asked him not to post his negative threads on my posted messages. He said & I quote" We can meet where I hang out on Fridays. Only we won't be doing much discussing if you get my meaning. I am not a pussy like XXXX is. So if you want to come down, I will be waiting for you."

This was after I asked him to simply stop negatively threading on any of my post. If I am a bad guy for responding to his insults towards me, then I guess that is how it is. There are too many folks up here that give him too much power to insult others & be disrespectful in the process. I am man enough to accept opinions. Insults & disrespect is another story.

TMAN

"Only we won't be doing much discussing if you get my meaning"

YOU ARE A LIAR TBOY. You can call all your followers to this thread that you want, will it validate your a saint? NOPE

I dont think my post was

"Please do not post messages that are simply mean, or meant to cause trouble for trouble's sake.

mean or meant to cause trouble. It was meant to open discussion on this persons business practices. I was hoping more providers would tell their horror stories and warn others. Seems many who have complained about him are to scared to post and thats a shame because only they can stop this kind of racketeering.