Lets say that you went back about a month(2/21) and counted the 'shills'(hobbyiests,giving props to a lady who they had a great time with), in this I do not include agencies announcing new ladies to the valley, which seems to be like the indies doing the once a week post advertisement and the numbers come out like: Shills 10 - provider ads-38 give or take. Only counting the original post and not the threads. All of this bs/drama/rant/ugliness over approx. one shill every 2.6 days. Yeah, that is certainly over the top and really an annoying waste of space on the board and it is a wonder there was room for anyone  to post anything else, I can see how this would piss everyone off, having to wade through all the shills to get to your post.
 Ladies, lets get real , at least with yourselves.  I have a difficult time believing that one shill every couple of days is the root of all of your anger and disrespect to the gentlemen of the board. What we don't have room for on this board is narrow minded ,agenda laden posts that do nothing to further the community.I don't see much difference in asking the prolific posters to only post every 2.6 days  or maybe we should limit shills and prolific posters to once every 3.7 days . Would you ladies quantify what would be acceptable to you? The shill issue does not hold any water , it is just the trojan horse in your rant. Now , I could be wrong ,and I am always willing to look at my short comings , how about you?
  In this arena, nothing wrong with a quid pro quo. If a women is rockin my socks off, I am going to let the community know , with NO apologies for the shill. Marketing 101, happy clients beget more clients. And I thank the ladies that I have shilled for. You ladies are not only beautiful and charming,  you also have an intelligence and grace that makes you who you are to me. OOPS, did I just shill?

First, why are we all of the sudden accepting the Drama Club's definition of a shill.  Posting a compliment, or mini-review, or a recommendation does not constitute a shill in the negative connotation that is being pushed on us.  This board is all about communicating hobby related information, and all three of those comply with that.  Having a Drama Club member hijack those posts is just plain wrong; not, as they would have you believe, just corrective action for the good of us all (what bullshit).  IMHO, a "shill" is a posts touting a provider for marketing purposes, not for recommendation purposes.

Second.  Even if we do accept that the above described posts are "shills," WTF is wrong with them, and why does the Drama Club feel the need to step on the threads.  Who the fuck elected them arbiters of what is allowed or not regarding other providers?  What kind of shitstorm would result if someone had done to Diana what she did to another?

Credibility is being lost at an astounding rate on this board by the Drama Club members.

the Comandante doesn't believe that Mr. C's definition of a shill does not rise to that level.  As he said, if a woman rocks my world, and if I'm in the mood, I'm going to let my fellow hobbiests know about, and, in all likelihood, refer them to a forthcoming review.  I further concur that the Drama Club should adjourn to Craig's List where they can share their opinions, rants, raves, etc. with the rest of the mental midgets and 5th graders.  Other than that, I don't have an opinion!

I see nothing wrong with shilling someone we had a good time with.

Doesn’t it help other hobbyist know that she’s for real?

I think she would appreciate it and we should do it more often.

Credibility being lost? C'mon tough guy, least say who you are. The post was long over yet new threads keep coming on about it. I think the drama is from hobbyists as much as providers.

Drama Club member? I am a limited poster here since I am usually out of town.

I think your use of the word "fuck" constitutes foul language, so by the rules, your post should be deleted.

Be careful, well known hobbyists review girls from Craig's List. So Mental Midget yourself, where are your reviews?

Sharing our excitement and enthusiasum (sp? to lazy to look it up) about an experience is equally important to sharing a "warning, stay away". Shill? I say Chill

after game six the red sox should let him sit the pine forever or at least until he gets bored and decides to retire. to force him to leave his shoulder untreated is the ultimate slap in the face to a wounded warrior who gave them the series in 04.
he sacrificed so much for those bean eating ingrates that i hope it takes the lamers another 80 years to get a series ring.

this is a shill for schilling he roxors your boxors admit it !

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complaining about an alias when this latest was started because you attacked another provider under an alias.  Go figure, jealous and hypocritical.  I assume since you don't approve of my language, you will also ask for the many posts by Ana to be removed for the same reason - just search the word and see how many of her posts have it.

On Shilling, I guess you are selective in your opposition.

in my humble opinion that You are what is wrong with the board, you are one who does not appear to be able to read a post and advance an opposing viewpoint without questioning the integrity of the poster .You appear to not even be able to understand the posts' question or point. This bullshit isn't about shilling or perceived  favors , it is about posters like you who make an attack under an alias and when found out,posit the argument that it was for the good of the community,how laughable,how noble. Apparently you do not have the intelligence to let an arguement stand on it own merits.   You have choosen to make a personal attack on my cred and my reviews, disrespecting the women I have seen . All because every 2.6 days some hobbyiest posts a prop to a provider they had recently visited. OK, you win , you have swayed me with your  keen intellect. Get back to me when you can understand the issues of the board.

request to have them removed.

i wouldnt want to cause anyone to suffer.

she didnt attack a provider so you should stop being such a drama queen about it. its fake drama.  are you really that bored ?

for a board that is supposed to be for people over the age of 18, we gotta lot of people that need their diapers changed.

the drama club is the bunch of guys that whine and complain over every lil thing and make it into a huge big deal that the rest of us could care less about... i have enough excitement in my life, i hardly need to contrive any.

shill everyday. 10 times a day.
it really tells people who to see but just not the way you think it does.  the guys i know read a shill as someone who needs a lil help drumming up biz and either cant post here or doesnt know how to effectively market on their own.

in my experience, a guy that really likes a girl normally keeps it sort of to himself. which may be why 'shilling tests' performed by people i know who are no longer on this board proved to generate zero business.  

they just make me cringe in embarrassment for the girl especially if the girl has been around long enough to have a good stock of regulars.. new girls i can see needing a lil help but after a few years, a girl should be pretty much set.. especially if she's good enough to shout out about... if she's model material, and been here a few years and still doesnt have a modeling contract it might make someone wonder why.. ter is scouted heavily and in fact, lookingcali is obviously one of them and thats why he's always bitching about the girls not being hot enough.

its a nice thing to do but you might want to check with the provider first because you maybe saying something that you dont mean to say.  i think its sweet that guys are willing to help out but sometimes you guys dont understand the lil nuances that this industry has.

i've never complained about a shill post.  some of them lay it on a bit thick and sound dumb but if it fools someone into booking a girl, i dont mind... those aren't the kind of clients that i would get along with anyway.

they can find girls within their budgets there too.

when they are ready to show some respect and stop with all the fake drama bullshit, they can come back.

and you know it.  Both of you are trying to defend the indefensible, and it's obvious because all you can do is fall back on the Jerry Springer type tactics.

Just because neither of you have ever motivated anyone to actually go to a board and post a compliment does not mean that other providers don't.  You keep making this about marketing, but it's not.  You're jealous board bullies still stuck in high school, so yes, you qualify as a drama club.

I had hoped this was over.  Say what you want in reply, I won't respond so that this dies a justifiable death.





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the secret is out. i suggest you let us handle our own marketing, i wouldnt want anyone thinking i was a member of the discount club.

getting a discount and getting paid are two different things.

i'm reviewed on a quite a few boards and my scores are just fine.. i tend to score higher on national boards that arent as easily controlled by guys who want to bargain.  i've made a couple guys stop and shout all the way to england, but again they were on national, and international boards where there was no personal gain to themselves.

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I just wanted to apologize for the witch thing.  I've taken it out of the post.  It's been a bad day and it came out, but I don't think it should have been there.

Out.

thanks for taking it out but it didnt bother me.

very nice of you though and i appreciate it.

sorry about your bad day and i do hope it gets better... sometimes i'll answer when one of the girls is getting attacked to show my support. i dont really know diana but i know she's always answered any requests for references and she's never insulted anyone to me so i figure she's a good girl and i'm going to back her.

i always jump in when i see a good woman getting treating badly. i should hope you'd do the same.

therefore the shiller couldnt be accused of accepting anything in exchange ?

just trying to offer a solution, dont shoot me. i am NOT saying that you accept anything in exchange, but if you're being unjustly accused, maybe that would help stop the accusations.