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Viper2 52 Reviews 3102 reads
posted
1 / 43

When is TER going to UN-Bann AZ Mystique or at least let us or them for that matter know why they were banned.

The longer this goes on...the more the rumor mill continues to spin, and makes TER look out to be the bad guy!

Either fish or cut bait...but Git er Done~!

azhacker 1696 reads
posted
2 / 43

nothing has been said either. Obviously the decision was made at the top (or dingus would have been in the loop) so it has zero to do with anything local here.

Barbara Walters 4066 reads
posted
3 / 43

why haven't you got the info from the MAN himself? or has he disappeared?

-- Modified on 7/3/2006 10:59:26 PM

thor18 10 Reviews 6399 reads
posted
4 / 43

And any intelligence gone bye-bye...but, it's really not all that difficult to understand.

A paying customer of TER was banned, no reason given. period. No notification of a TOS violation, nothing, nada, nyet.

Were their bills paid up? I have to believe so - the reviews were pulled. Do agencies and Indies pay to have their reviews listed? No, I don't think so.

What should alarm people, more than this single incident, is that any one of us can be banned- no reason given. One day we are a member in good standing and then poof, we are not.

Any questions?

-- Modified on 7/3/2006 1:15:22 PM

Ol_Desperado 59 Reviews 4053 reads
posted
5 / 43

Apparently TER has yet to provide the staff of Mystique with an explanation.  Here's their statement:

"....Obviously, we have emailed staff now on four occasions and to date there has been no response from them as to why they took the action they did...we violated no rules, do not post fake reviews, and do nothing but post our weekly ads in the markets we serve....so we are at a loss as to why they would take such action...."

Sure hope I don't get in trouble for this post! yikes!!

OverCaffeinated 1 Reviews 3445 reads
posted
6 / 43

Without going into details (because none of the principals have said it's OK for me to do so), I can tell you that the disappearance of AZM is unrelated to anything that has been speculated on this board. Business people have their reasons, and don't always have or choose to explain them, but things usually get worked out in the end.  FWIW, the same decision that took down AZM's reviews also removed their ability to post here, so they couldn't offer you an explanation in this forum even if they wanted to.  Stand by...

Pfury56 12 Reviews 3446 reads
posted
7 / 43

I am a fan of AZM and its affiliates.  They are A-OK in my book.  Why have you banned them???  Would appreciate an explanation.  pfury56

lovingmichael 20 Reviews 2429 reads
posted
8 / 43

I cannot understand what is going on.  I do know that I have been a very happy customer of AZM for over a year.  I have posted reviews of their ladies and I have known reviews of the ladies from other clients.  This agency is a class act, with wonderful, reputable people.  TER must return this agency and the ladies to the system.  I know AZM to be the best of people and I would stake my life on their word.  They rely on their good reputation and the recommendations their clients share with potential clients.  They should be restored to the benefit of the system immediately.

danordanny 2720 reads
posted
9 / 43

as one of the MEN or the "MAN" please call me at 480-233-0200 and ask me anything your little heart desires. Better yet, call me and you can buy the "MEN" dinner tonight and we can discuss why all this troubles you so. Thanks for the press, Dan or Danny

Muffyman 70 Reviews 2695 reads
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10 / 43



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modprod 134 Reviews 2266 reads
posted
11 / 43

AzM has been an integral part of our little town. Besides ladies they have introduced they have been active on this board and supportive of the community in general.  Love em or hate em they have done their duty and deserve a hats  off. I hope TER will address this issue so a remendy can be found.  We want em back!

edensrose See Agency Profile 2145 reads
posted
12 / 43

I don't do much posting but thought I would reply to this thread.I have been around long before these boards came to be,this was supposed to be a place to discuss and post about the coming event of your week and what you could offer this community in the way of services.

It seem now there is a bit of Politics being played with the Agency AzMystique, for them not to have a response to their inquiring about their status on TER. They claim to be a fair Business with Rules and Guideline and if Az Mystique feels they have followed them and TER gives then no reply as to what rule they broke then it make you wonder what Politics are being Played!!! They brought a lot of folks to the Phx board and a lot paid membership because of them and the reason is they are ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS. Not only Mystique would like to know why but sooo Do I that way we can avoid making that Blunder on this Board
 

edensrose


cpi3000 7 Reviews 2070 reads
posted
14 / 43

IT does affect the ladies.  I know the glas that have worked at AZM were very happy working for them.  Very few places where they get the win/win situation like that.

The ball is in TER's court to respond to AZM.

Barbara Walters 2030 reads
posted
15 / 43

Why would I want to buy you the "MAN" dinner? my questions are no different than any of the postings here, why are you singling me out.

No problem on the press, I have no problem here I was just responding the questions above....Seems like all the gents that have done business with you would have had some answers by now.

I think Rose from the Garden has made the point very clear..

You don't have to get wise with me, unless you do the same for all!!!!!

Viper2 52 Reviews 2577 reads
posted
16 / 43

BW, talk about stiring the pot of trouble~ and even worse hiding behind a Cicken S--- alias.  At least have the Balls or Rack to post under your main handle.

I have more then heard what the issue is....and it is NOT on AZ Mystique's side...more like someone at ter ......you figure it out!

Next time you want to open your pie hole...have something worth while to say rather than spewing!

-- Modified on 7/3/2006 9:59:22 PM

Tennispro6789 58 Reviews 2637 reads
posted
17 / 43

I agree with Modprod that Mystique has been good to the community. If this is a political move then what next to ban the TER fans or maybe another agency. This is free speech board or is it.

snijder2004 2245 reads
posted
18 / 43

Come on Baby! Where were you all this time? I like real MEN. Open up your kimono....

Barbara Walters 2661 reads
posted
19 / 43

someone elese did not understand and I was just making a comment as to that....I never said it was there fault, just that you and the others that have delt with them at least I thought you did since you and the others shilled for them, would have known what happended...I did not ask the question...so get off your fucking high horse and stop blaming other people....you and the others can kiss my ass, If I want to use a alias I will....it is allowed and this is a free world Mr 143 reviews.

Tell Rose at the Garden about opening her pie hole why don't you....she as many have wonder and asked questions....hope you felt better opening your pie hole ass hole....

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Barbara Walters 2496 reads
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20 / 43
mackingb 6 Reviews 2690 reads
posted
21 / 43

I second Rose for her response to this issue. Although I have been away from Phoenix, I have come to known the AZM as one of the best people to deal with. They have been the reason why I check this board for reliable info on companions. With this said and as much as I respect TER's right to withhold their response, I would hope to seek clarification of the violations made (if there are any.) For the sake of solidarity and peace of mind of all the patrons of AZM and members of TER. It is inherently important for the managers of this site to show impartiality regardless. I honestly feel that TER has the ball on their court and hope that they resolve this matter as quickly as possible.

Viper2 52 Reviews 2169 reads
posted
22 / 43

Well if we don't  understand, maybe you need to construct your threads a bit better.  Besides YOU are the one that is on your high horse.   Who did I blame?  It was NOT you.  Obviously YOU did NOT understand the whole purpose of this thread. Maybe you need to think outside the box, but then again based upon your response....maybe that is above your capabilities.

What does my 143 reviews have to do with anything? Maybe YOU are jealous. Besides I always feel good, and as far as I am a AH?....well if thaqt is not calling the kettle black...I don't know what is.

WhataDick 1 Reviews 2629 reads
posted
23 / 43

It would seem from the lack of any response from TER that someone is playing with AZmystique... My question is why and to what ends????
Azmystique has only been an outstanding member of the community so really why the lack of respect from TER!!!

danordanny 2589 reads
posted
24 / 43

"or has he disappeared?" Sounds to me like you just want gossip. Whats your next "Questions"?

Has he died?
Could he have had a heart attack?
Could he have left the Country?

Muffyman 70 Reviews 2646 reads
posted
25 / 43

the absence of an accurate and meaningful report about what is actually going on fosters rumor and idle speculation which is not good for anyone in the community and most especially the ladies working for that agency.

-- Modified on 7/4/2006 10:33:43 AM

Barbara Walters 2263 reads
posted
26 / 43

I think Rose had some interesting perspectives too!!!!

yes good question has he disappeared? seems no one has heard from him, why are you being so defensive here?

I certainly hope that he is ok!!!! so answer the question, smarty pants!!!!!!!

hope you enjoy your 4th!

Dog5555 13 Reviews 2103 reads
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27 / 43
3centagos 1177 reads
posted
28 / 43

I am fairly new to the hobby but so far I have been impressed with the way TER is setup and the way the phoenix community and others have gathered around this board to share information and ideas. An important ingredient in this, I think, has been that they have clearly posted rules and guidelines and staff and moderators who enforce that they are reasonably followed.

Without yet knowing what the details are in this case with Mystique, I think IF TER has the attitude that they can ban or censor anyone, whether they are a provider, hobbiest, or agency without providing a reasonable and just explaination then they need to realize that we as a community will keep them accountable to those rules.  They are not above the rules that they themselves established.  It is true that this site is not a democracy and they have the right to make the rules and decisions regarding its use but each member on here (especially paying members) can decide to find another board/review site to use.

Today is the 4th of July, a day we celebrate our forefathers' victory in gaining freedom from a government they felt did not represent them. While giving TER the full benefit of the doubt that they have been chosing the appropriate time and way to make an announcement, I think they need to be swift about it or risk the sentiment that they no longer represent this community.

Come clean TER and let Mystique and the rest of us know why they were banned. Otherwise, remove the ban and let things be as they were.

--p#3

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Dog5555 13 Reviews 2323 reads
posted
29 / 43

not a democracy here. Sometimes less benevolent that others. They really don't have to explain their actions. I haven't seen them change their decisions too many times. Sorry to say.

BOSAZ 99 Reviews 3571 reads
posted
30 / 43

This board serves many purposes. One such purpose is to facilitate quality commerce. I have used Mystique many times due to the communications, posts and reviews on this board. 99.9% of my experiences have been quite positive. Why? Quality info from this board and a quality agency. I find it hard to believe that this agency has conducted an action so bad, so unethical to justify the termination of their presence on this board. TER's actions are hurting commerce for this company. In the real business world, someone would have to have a good explanation for what has happened.

2389 reads
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31 / 43
azhacker 3656 reads
posted
32 / 43

is that there is no legitimate reason. Simply someone deciding to grind an AX for some reason. If in fact AZM did something wrong then spill the details. Otherwise my feelings are that they've been hosed for other reasons. In the end this site makes money one way...thru the actions of its subscibership. It can go down as fast as it went up....once you forget your customer base...you need to worry about your customers forgetting about you. Simply business 101.......

Viper2 52 Reviews 2310 reads
posted
33 / 43

Jack has NOT disappeared. I usually talk with him daily. The only thing he is limited is being able to post on this board and being backed into a corner in order to be able to come back on this board for no wrong doing what so ever.

Now if the Powers to be care to step up to the plate and tell us what REALLY is going on...I along with many others would love to know. But I will NOT hold my breath on that.

Viper2 52 Reviews 1213 reads
posted
34 / 43

BW...You seem to be a lightening ROD for controversy.  Posting under an alias, posting multiple handles ( although not verified) and just plain spewing S--- from your pie whole.

One would certtainly think YOU have an axe to grind with AZM.....

leogab 2 Reviews 1931 reads
posted
35 / 43

Unless TER explains their actions, I guess I will not be renewing any longer.

fmdfma 1956 reads
posted
36 / 43

The right thing would be to communicate to them what they did wrong, if anything, or to restore access.

abaz 1773 reads
posted
37 / 43

Sorry I couldn't reply sooner (I know you're just dieing to know my take on this issue). So, all you mugs listen and yous listen good, you heres.

Now,this here business is illegal, so that makes the profits real, real good. Yous unda stan. And, sometimes those that makes all the bread and do all the work ain't to will'n tooze share and that deeply hurts some of the senstive business types who have taken certain risks to insure the success of others.

So these sensitve executive types feel a certain ethical example is needed to emphasize the insular working of this heres market place so that others won't forget to share.

Sometimes sharing can be uncomfortable, but it is not as uncomfortabled as not sharing. Yous unda stan?!?!

Sheika Fatima and Cleo

-- Modified on 7/5/2006 9:25:46 PM

Barbara Walters 3755 reads
posted
38 / 43

just asking a question, simply wondering why some of the answers to many of the other questions just weren't answered by the party involved...nothing more than that.  Obviously the way I said it has been taken out of context.

Too many are too sensitive...oh well
Just lighten up....

I'm not the only one that uses an alias nor will I be the last...so just get over it and stop trying to make a mountain out of a mole or moe hill ( not sure which way it goes)heeeeeheeee!

Barbara Walters 1834 reads
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39 / 43
piranhad 23 Reviews 3268 reads
posted
40 / 43

Actually... no... I don't understand at all

sharpdelta 1508 reads
posted
41 / 43

That makes two of us..... Talk about rambling and not making any sense!

Dog5555 13 Reviews 1727 reads
posted
42 / 43

It doesn't have to be fair, nor "right" - it is what it is. We all understand, some people own the ball - they can take it home when they want.

abaz 2414 reads
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43 / 43

Thank you for the support and thank you for admitting that “yous unda stans”. Sometimes the truth is unpleasant.

The Sheika is a baby boomer. I am from a generation of activists. I am from a generation of winners. We tell it like it is!!

The escort trade is a rough, illegal business. There are incredible amounts of money involved and unfortunately the ladies are just peons. They are used and they are expendable.

Boards such as these are very expeditious to the business interests of indies and organizations/agencies like Mystique.

Again, sometimes sharing (favors and wealth) is uncomfortable, but not sharing can be absolutely unbearable. I hope yous unda stans?

Power to the people.  I love you all.

PEACE,

Sheika Fatima


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