So I am trying to see a new provider. She asked for 2 quality providers that can vouch for me. I said no problem and gave few ladies names. Although I've been around the block, I have not been too active lately and when I am I've only seen few local ladies who are not what I call verifiable. So I gave out numbers to ladies I have seen multiple times and knows me pretty well. One of the ladies replied - I only verify gentlemen whom I've seen in the past 6 month. Seriously? I get asked all the time about ladies I've reviewed. I don't say I can't talk about her because I last saw her X amount of years ago. I understand about safety. But is it really that hard to say, I haven't seen him in 2-4 years, but I've seen him like 1/2 dozen times over the years and every time he has been great (on time, showered, paid). I am not asking anyone to make up stuff. I am completely okay you saying you haven't seen me in awhile. No problem, but acting like you don't know me completely sucks.

This industry is full of people like that but it is always fill with professionals that treat this like a business. I only stared on TER since last Nov but I have been a hobbyist for about 5-6 years and have seen enough of these crap. However, its a pain to keep our references current, no doubt about that. I take it as part of doing business.

If you are not a "player", if you see providers infrequently or if you see a limited (1) number of providers exclusively, or occasionally, you limit your ability to see someone new.

Is solely because (especially in our local market) the LE environment makes it way too risky to verify that someone has not been compromised in a span of 3 years. We screen for a variety of reasons but the primary reason is to ensure our safety.

I feel for you. What some of the ladies have told me is just as some ladies improve or go down hill over time, so do mongers.  
Their reasoning is based on the guys who at one time were kind and clean.  But then were not as advertised later on.  

and there are many people who can think of alternative ways to verify someone w/o a mandatory "2 provider reference" procedure to adhere to.

1. Just do not discuss services for money, have a good website and reviews and the client should know what he can expect and what to bring on the date.

If you're in a room with LE, the LE  check is useless. You'll be going to jail. LE is there to arrest you, not prosecute you, that's the job of the DA. Whether the DA decides to pursue the case against you, but you will be arrested and have a lot of explaining to do either to a SO or employer.  

I do think she should of given the references, I agree, she could of said she saw you a year ago (or whenever that was) and say at the time, he was safe and legit.  

Just hook them up to a polygraph machine and ask if they are an agent.  If the answer is questionable there is always waterboarding.

My MO over the past few years is not to be all over the place.  I've found it's better personally for a few friends with deep relationships that don't get reviewed, than to blab all over the place.  

Miss Page, you are so amazingly special in our neighborhood.  I adore you!!

I might enjoy that!

That is only in a public place or a car visible to the public.  If it is in a private room then you can pat down legally.

You've submitted PLENTY of reviews, even recently.  If she can't be satisfied with your TER ID and a PM, then my best guess is she isn't really looking for new clients.

not if you ask for consent prior to the pat down for security measures

ven that it is verboten to ask someone if she is a government agent and also verboten to pat them down in public with her consent and it is verboten in private to pat her down without her consent the solution is to ask her in private for consent to do a pat down for microphones for screening.

The pat down cannot result in a sexual abuse (breasts) and not sexual assault (Arizona sexual assault law requires vagina and/or anus is penetrated) if consent is given.  The key here is consent is given in accordance with the circumstances of the security pat down under her top.  To do a pat down if given consent cannot result in a sexual abuse charge unless the victim lies about not giving consent or that the consent is later revoked.  

You would think. But some ladies are quirky that way. So after I go thru the screening, she sends me a note: Friday night doesn't look good (although this was the date she told me was best for her), how is Sat night? Uggggg

What about a simple kiss when you meet? Sounds like the simplest thing to make happen and if she is gfe and no kiss then I know what I might think.

Or to save gas just have her text/email a topless pic.  That way the topless pic if showing full breasts with nipples would constitute a policy violation and therefore would cause case to not be prosecuted.