Maybe this is a new post, maybe it's a response to Bailey's original question:
Hobbyists are all different, but I'd suggest there are four categories:
1. Thrill seekers / new experience seekers
2. Attached-Married but unhappy/unfulfilled, want an escape
3. Control freaks or Submissives (S & M)
4. Lonely - want companionship, friendship, romance fantasy, etc.
I'm in category #4. I wish a provider would be able to say they know how to take care of my category.
In Econ terms, the GFE/PSE designation doesn't help match the "demand" with the "suppliers". So, I wish we would drop the old GFE language and come up with new terminology for providers to use with the four different hobbyist groups.
I know everyone is going to have different opinions, I just want to see what the consensus is here in the valley on what you consider GFE is.
I don't advertise it, yet guys want it which is fine. I just want a more clear understanding of what your definition is of it. Everybody chime in even the windy weiner boys from Chicago hehe
I don't want to be ear fucked to death by long posts either please........ I have plenty of lovely novels to read already
If you recall, I departed, and left the 2 of you do whatever it is you 2 do with your converse sneakers.
Although I have participated in group activities, (FMF, FFMF only, with all the attention on me, not 2 or 3 girl shows) I have the best time when it is one on one
Date??? Victoria my last date I was role playing, I was all dressed up in the Olive Garden and I wasn't allowed to talk to the server, then a late movie back row 20 mins in lifted my skirt and fucked the shit out of him......damn I miss him lol
I start GFE but end up PSE 80% of the time, I can't help it
See now damn it you make it confusing, men like you and my last boytoy call that GFE, others would call it PSE or just Crazy. Screw it I'm just going to start advertising I offer crazy and let clients figure it out.
See now damn it you make it confusing, men like you and my last boytoy call that GFE, others would call it PSE or just Crazy. Screw it I'm just going to start advertising I offer crazy and let clients figure it out.
Bailey, your clients already know you offer crazy. lol
But I think you've got it right---the guy can book with you, and TOGETHER you figure it out. As long as there are no obvious surprises (from either side), isn't that what it's all about?
But I think you've got it right---the guy can book with you, and TOGETHER you figure it out. As long as there are no obvious surprises (from either side), isn't that what it's all about?
If PSE is delivered with the typical raucous noise/fake screams-squeals/gaggin that you see in everyday porn, in my mind "GFE delivery" would be the same activities, but with a little more sensual flair.
So did I succeed giving you an "ear-fuck"? LMAO.....sorry Bailey.....
I don't think that you have to advertise it. It should be easy to tell, by reading reviews. I have the most fun, when she is genuine, affectionate, enjoys mutual light touching, lfk, dfk, bbbj. It should go without saying, someone that really, really enjoys being a provider, and someone that LOVES sex.
Your welcome, I just like saying windy weiner boys lol
Posted By: Chicagohotdog
Gee Bailey, thanks for the special invitation
I don't think that you have to advertise it. It should be easy to tell, by reading reviews. I have the most fun, when she is genuine, affectionate, enjoys mutual light touching, lfk, dfk, bbbj. It should go without saying, someone that really, really enjoys being a provider, and someone that LOVES sex.
I agree with what been posted. DFK being perhaps the most important part of GFE for me at least.
PSE to me is less personal and greater performance emphasis. Where GFE is more personal with the emphasis of direct attention to what would be experienced in civvie encounter. GFE seems more real and is why is sought after. Most men with an SO (or wife) crave the attention they use to get from their relationship so when they turn to the hobby GFE helps fill the void. Even though its pretend is simulates an important missing part of our lives.
..... because for some it's more of the experience vs activities.... some it's more activities vs candles and wine and all that....stuff lol.
IMO it's a mix of both experience/atmosphere and acts (pardon if naming them is unsexy/or not so classy) some you expect with your gf like kissing, fiv, daty, bbbj and so on pair that with nice music, maybe some dancing, candles, snacks, massage, convo etc.
Posted By: baileym365
I know everyone is going to have different opinions, I just want to see what the consensus is here in the valley on what you consider GFE is.
I don't advertise it, yet guys want it which is fine. I just want a more clear understanding of what your definition is of it. Everybody chime in even the windy weiner boys from Chicago hehe
I don't want to be ear fucked to death by long posts either please........ I have plenty of lovely novels to read already
Nagging we never go out enough. We never go hang with your friends only my friends. Upset I am always looking at other women I work too late and you call me a workaholic and I choose my job over you too often.. and all I want to do when were together is have sex..
I see providers for the break from the REAL relationships
Whoa Nelly back that boat up.... you can't leave us hanging like that spread the gossip please. Chi-dog and two goats did what exactly?...........omg were rubber boats involved?
Isn't that be the true GF experience? Or maybe it's just me... It costs more financially and mentally keeping a GF around and I can't just send her home after an hour or so...
Sorry I knew what you really meant and I choose not to try and Define the GFE your refer to cause I have no Idea. They all seem a little different between providers. If that means BBBJ or DFK or cuddling, or whatever then say that, not GFE and make us guess. That's my 2 Cents and we all know what 2 cents buys these days.
You sound like a giant drone, If you're so miserable with her kick her to the curb, I am a SEX therapist I like to hear things that make my flower bud not shrivel up for crying out loud lol
Posted By: MikeBMesa
Nagging we never go out enough. We never go hang with your friends only my friends. Upset I am always looking at other women I work too late and you call me a workaholic and I choose my job over you too often.. and all I want to do when were together is have sex..
I see providers for the break from the REAL relationships
It's a comfort factor added with kissing, touching, rubbing. I've had providers who kiss but there is no passion or feeling behind it, it ruins the whole thing.
Posted By: baileym365
I know everyone is going to have different opinions, I just want to see what the consensus is here in the valley on what you consider GFE is.
I don't advertise it, yet guys want it which is fine. I just want a more clear understanding of what your definition is of it. Everybody chime in even the windy weiner boys from Chicago hehe
I don't want to be ear fucked to death by long posts either please........ I have plenty of lovely novels to read already
Maybe this is a new post, maybe it's a response to Bailey's original question:
Hobbyists are all different, but I'd suggest there are four categories:
1. Thrill seekers / new experience seekers
2. Attached-Married but unhappy/unfulfilled, want an escape
3. Control freaks or Submissives (S & M)
4. Lonely - want companionship, friendship, romance fantasy, etc.
I'm in category #4. I wish a provider would be able to say they know how to take care of my category.
In Econ terms, the GFE/PSE designation doesn't help match the "demand" with the "suppliers". So, I wish we would drop the old GFE language and come up with new terminology for providers to use with the four different hobbyist groups.
Nothing scientific or academic...just my observations and talking to providers. If there are other groups out there then I would be glad to add them to the list!
So what's the term for all four of you categories, because I do them all
Posted By: cruiserx
Maybe this is a new post, maybe it's a response to Bailey's original question:
Hobbyists are all different, but I'd suggest there are four categories:
1. Thrill seekers / new experience seekers
2. Attached-Married but unhappy/unfulfilled, want an escape
3. Control freaks or Submissives (S & M)
4. Lonely - want companionship, friendship, romance fantasy, etc.
I'm in category #4. I wish a provider would be able to say they know how to take care of my category.
In Econ terms, the GFE/PSE designation doesn't help match the "demand" with the "suppliers". So, I wish we would drop the old GFE language and come up with new terminology for providers to use with the four different hobbyist groups.
In business marketing we would say something like "Catering to the full range of hobbyists, from the thrill seeker to the unhappily attached, Bailey is a provider who understands both physical and emotional needs." or something corny like that.
I wouldn't go that far as to say everyone loves me, I have a few enemies out there lol.
Isn't that what we as providers are supposed to do?...... cater to the different hobbyists and their needs. I fully understand when you get into fetishes and taboo interests not every lady is cut out for the rainbow of flavors, but every lady should be able to do all the vanilla stuff.
I'm not good with the emotional needs of a hobbyist though, I will tell you to suck it up and quit whining
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