I often get emails for reservations from friends - New and old . I always appreciate when you can tell a man does / did his homework and picked you more so because you are what he is looking for and or what he needs. .. ore so beyond - Last min , you will do. Lately I have more than ever been getting the question - What is your rate ?
I honestly feel on one hand bad to tell a gent to check my website ( as he should have done before emailing ) because he is after all a client and my genuine goal is to make him happy. BUT in my honest opinion it is so rude and tasteless to question or ask someone how much they charge.
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the question more often ? Is this because gents' you just do not check the websites or because more so a lady will give you a lower rate is she is slow etc?
I think at times its because providers rates do change from time to time, from what they are seeing on here. Some girls could be higher, others could have lowered their prices. If all they are basing it on is this website, that can at times be the case.
I have found that sometimes providers have different rates on different advertizing sites, sometimes I have seen providers that advertize for example on EROS at their high rate and then have an ad on City Vibe or Backpage at a lower rate. In this ad they don't show their face. When I asked a provider why she did this, she said she could use the extra business, but didn't show her face because she didn't want fall out from other providers about lowering her rates. I feel this is one of the reasons providers ask where you seen their ad, so they know what price they are looking at as well as to see if the advertizing site is bringing her business.
I have sent emails/texts to some providers about her donation and she has directed me to her website...one of the new generic sites and when I looked at the donation, it said to call the provider. When I texted the provider back, she wasn't even aware that her donation amount wasn't on her site.
Personally I like to CONFIRM the rate so there is no miss understanding when booking an appointment. When I ask about the donation and get directed to her website, it makes me feel like the provider doesn't think I can afford the donation and therefore often check her off my list.
I've run into the same issues as all the gents above. In addition, I've also run into the issue where the price listed on a screening site didn't match the price in TER or other ad sites. I've politely raised the issue and typically get the response that they forgot to update the screening site when they changed their rates.
In addition, there are a number of local providers that don't even list prices on their ads or their websites (typically a generic escort site). They simply say contact me for rates. In many cases, the prices have been variable based on the time of month (rent due?), upcoming holidays, etc. I think guys don't want to show up at the appointment with an amount that doesn't equal the amount the provide is expecting and either be turned away and/or listed on the boards as trying to scam the provider.
You are correct my rates are different here. I guess I never think about other sites as a confirmation of who I am as a provider, more so my website. And I will admit my rates hae changed often depending on my personal time I have etc. So with that, I can see why ask.
I guess, I feel in question when someone asks after first contact FROM my site, and or after making an apt using two hour apt or dinner date wording rather than a direct one hour request ?
I also hate talking about rates and what my apts consist of etc so that also is always an if'y convo in my book that I avoid with all cost.
i agree w/ what everyone has said 1. its tasteless to ask a lady 2 pricing changes depending on the moment 3. we want to avoid any embarrassing situations
i, for one, like to book longer dates, dinner dates, etc and i dont believe that it should be a direct multiple of the hourly rate! most ladies dont list pricing for 5 hrs..6 hrs..or the 12 hr block....
then of course there are the addtl costs...hotel room for the lady ( i dont like them driving across the dessert at nite after a long day w/ a few glasses of wine)...etc...maybe its the romantic/idealistic person speaking??.....i prefer a relationship..not just an hourly meeting...
Let me ask you this question: Now that we are entering tax season, if you called a CPA and asked him/her what they would charge to do your taxes, would you think that it is normal for them to chastise you and tell you that you are being rude and tasteless for even asking? That you should have looked at their website and done your own research? Or would you expect that they would just answer your question, and tell you what their rate is?
I honestly feel on one hand bad to tell a gent to check my website ( as he should have done before emailing ) because he is after all a client and my genuine goal is to make him happy. BUT in my honest opinion it is so rude and tasteless to question or ask someone how much they charge.
As a businessmen, I am never offended when my customers call me and ask for pricing. I don't expect them to check my website prior to contacting me. Usually I am just happy that they have contacted my business and I am glad to discuss my products and cost. Also I do run specials and it is not always on my website.
Why should you be offended by a gentlemen when he is just trying to confirm your rate so there will be no confusion and awkward moments at the end of a session. Maybe we are trying to do diligence so we won't short change you at the end. I don't want to leave a lady with $$$ in the envelope when it was suppose to have $$$$. I would be mortified that the lady might think that I have cheated her.
Wow, really? you took that from her as rude and tasteless? I get that you disagree with the lady but I don't see how you can call her rude and tasteless for her position. I know, to an extent you were just using a play on words based on her own use of the phrase. But to play on your play. You were rude and tasteless when you decided to make your disagreement with her so negative.
the fact is that different business models have more room then others, or more expectation then others, for negotiation of discussion of the price. It can not be said that there is a blanket norm in all business models on this topic. You go into a pawn shop or a swap meet expecting to bargain and ask for the price. But this lady is not a swap meet or a pawn shop. You go into a car dealership expecting to haggle but this lady is not a car salesman. You don't go into 90% of businesses expecting to negotiate price and you know it. You also may go into a business with a clearly displayed menu and ask for the price but you are going to get an odd look from the waiter or person behind the counter when you do it with the menu right in front of you.
The fact is, there is a reason that in this particular industry price is not often openly discussed. It is often an uncomfortable and sensitive topic for a woman who is trying to provide a particular appearance or illusion and one that has the net effect of breaking that illusion in most cases.
You don't negotiate because when you do you are saying that her idea of her value is wrong and yours is right. How would you like anyone to tell you that? Asking her price is not nearly as taboo as negotiating, but when it is standard practice to research a lady and her website before contacting her it does raise some eyebrows if you show you clearly didn't do your homework.
Where did I discuss getting a discount or even asking for one. Pawn shop, swap meet, and car dealership are your words, not mine. My simple statement is that there is nothing wrong with asking how much her services are. If read my statement again, it states that the reason I want to know what the cost is because I don't want to screw things up by not paying the lady what she is asking for. Some people change their rates and forget to update it on their website. I know for a fact it has happened to some of my friends. The rates were updated on eros, backpage, etc but forgot to update on personal webpage. I understand that someone might not want to talk finances and want to refer their clients to their website, but saying that I am rude and tasteless because I want to make sure that they are taken care of...........
You stated that because you consider it okay to discuss such things in your business she should consider it ok in hers. The things I listed and that you are pretending to not understand, are examples to back up my point that such a statement can not be made in the business world as different businesses have different expectations for those things. Yours appears to be one where it is expected. Hers (by nearly unanimous consent) is not. Are you ready to stop pretending you don't understand my point now?
This actually happened once to me and I was horrified. However in my defense the rate I seen posted is what I had paid however she had meant to take that rate down it was a meant as a pre-book rate. She called me and asked what I thought the rate was and I told her she said where did I see that posted. I told her and she said oh that was only meant if you pre-booked before she arrived. I told her I would be happy to drop off the difference to her the following morning or lunch or whenever she was free but she told me not to worry about it cause it never actually said pre-book rate and it was still listed.. I still felt horrified like i had cheated her. I ended up booking her a second time before she left town again and made sure my tip covered what she was expecting the last time.
I still do not like to ask the rate but I do make a point of saying I seen your ad on .... so she know where I seen her rate listed. or I will raise a question pointing out the ad I seen. I will also try to double check the ad before going over to meet.
Posted By: ki.wan
the following statement that you make.
I honestly feel on one hand bad to tell a gent to check my website ( as he should have done before emailing ) because he is after all a client and my genuine goal is to make him happy. BUT in my honest opinion it is so rude and tasteless to question or ask someone how much they charge.
As a businessmen, I am never offended when my customers call me and ask for pricing. I don't expect them to check my website prior to contacting me. Usually I am just happy that they have contacted my business and I am glad to discuss my products and cost. Also I do run specials and it is not always on my website.
Why should you be offended by a gentlemen when he is just trying to confirm your rate so there will be no confusion and awkward moments at the end of a session. Maybe we are trying to do diligence so we won't short change you at the end. I don't want to leave a lady with $$$ in the envelope when it was suppose to have $$$$. I would be mortified that the lady might think that I have cheated her.
Now that I am done scolding you, it is also a simple issue to fix. You can contact her to find out if the price is right. But you do it like this.
One last thing, I notice that the donation you have on your website is $300 for this. I just want to confirm that this is the correct amount to be sure that no awkward mistakes are made when we meet.
If you word it like that you demonstrate that you HAVE looked and you are trying to keep her interests in mind. It opens the door for her to tell you there is a special if she wants to without you asking for one. It covers pretty much all the bases you can cover and still ask the question. Most ladies won't mind that.
LOl looks like I hit a sore spot for you somewhere. I guess maybe you don't like it when people disagree with you. I find this funny considering your reaction when you disagreed with the woman above was to flat out insult her. I guess you can't take what you dish out.
Both you guys got way too much time on your hands. I think the lady that started this post is probably perfectly capable of defending her post if necessary. Of course she probably is not saying ANYTHING because she can't get a word in between your rants at each other. You have both stated what you think so lets move on.
Now that I am done scolding you, it is also a simple issue to fix. You can contact her to find out if the price is right. But you do it like this.
One last thing, I notice that the donation you have on your website is $300 for this. I just want to confirm that this is the correct amount to be sure that no awkward mistakes are made when we meet.
If you word it like that you demonstrate that you HAVE looked and you are trying to keep her interests in mind. It opens the door for her to tell you there is a special if she wants to without you asking for one. It covers pretty much all the bases you can cover and still ask the question. Most ladies won't mind that.
Excellent way to go about it Theonegodd great advise! I understand the need to clarify the rate too. I think TOG has written the best way to go about doing so.
That's a great idea! I always wondered about a good way to ask that BEFORE seeing them without making it uncomfortable. I always research them ahead of time, looking at their posts and their sites, but I do like to make sure as some like to post a price but really expect you to bring more for extra services (not upselling or conning, more like a "secret menu" or something, lol). There's one lady in particular I've had my eye on for a few months or so but have held back because some reviews mention that she only gives extras when you give her an extra tip or something like that.
... rude and tasteless is being so full of yourself that you think your internet "scoldings" would elicit anything more than a chuckle from anyone. KiWan was simply stating that it's NOT inappropriate to verify a lady's rate. It is very common practice for them to have different prices on different sites, backpage prices are normally lower as a rule. Heck even Ms. Grey herself(a great provider I'm sure) admitted her rates are incosistent between TER and her site. Obviously a guy needs to be polite and tactful about it, but should verfiy every time so there is no misunderstanding. Just seems like common sense.
hay , atleast it got some convo on the site, sad that not many ladies spoke up ?
I didnt respond because I was away from home all day, Work,gym,shopping... ya know!
The very post DID make me check my rates on ALL Sites because I have changed them since coming back, ... I honestly do not think about other sites as solid except my own when it comes to rates, .. BUT whenI originally wrote I was more speaking about guys who email me DIRECTLY from my website in my contact form - from my website.
At the end of it all... I guess I should just mention in our convo to make sure to check my website for up to date information, which goes for saying I have never meet anyone who didnt know the right amount. I find when a gent is serious, and knows what he wants, and how to get it...
We as providers invest, so much in our websites to have to answer questions that can clearly be read on our TER profiles, or personal sites. I only see serious men who are smart enough to, do their own homework. Respect is a must, and it is not hard to take a few moments to read about a provider if your really interested in her. I ignore ignorant emails, like what are your prices?
Lame.
If your a VIP TER member look at the TER profile, and read a few reviews before sending a pm here asking what is your donation? Sorry, but it is annoying to have to respond to all the inquires that are not really serious. My time is limited & only reserve it for true gentlemen who can respect my time.
Creating an auto-reply is in my future. Experience tells me if they have perused my site, becoming familiar with me, rates, etc. the time together is much more fulfilling - we get that "click" together. Intelligence, respect for time, etc. - it really takes less then 5 minutes to check rates. BTW last week took the cake on rate questions - even from a regular (oy vay!)
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great advise!
hay , atleast it got some convo on the site, sad that not many ladies spoke up ?