Its about "time and companionship" and there is no "i" in team but their is in time and providers time is important to her. Sure the ladies (in most cases) love the time and companionship but I don't think it is cost effective for them to just want to hang out.  They would never be able to see you as a repeat clientele.  There is a line in the sand and rarely I think the provider is willing to cross it, but it has happened. Keep in mind that this is a business and I think Roxanne once said it best.....this is not a dating website, they have those out there....try eharmony if you want to just hang out with someone.

It sounds nice, Driver, but the only place to mix business with pleasure is during the appointment. The idea of non-sexual get-togethers or hanging out are certainly possible when mutually agreeable, but I would venture most ladies would rather not be asked, although I don't speak for them.

On the other hand, getting to know a provider completely away from the business, with no prior contact in the business, and discovering a soul mate or friend to hang with or even a lover is perfectly possible and perfectly appropriate.

The problem is this: in the provider-hobbyist relationship, the connection may seem absolutely genuine, and that is the art of the provider, but it may not be more than that, the art. Accept that for what it is: great, delicious fun. And don't fantasize about possibilities of a "real" relationship outside that environment.

Of course there are exceptions to everything. But I think that's rare.

It is a very fine line and I crossed it.

I have tried this before and I will say it never worked out.  I am not saying it can't work out but it is RARE.  Either the client ends up thinking the provider is gold digging or the provider ends up thinking the client just wants time for free and also resents this person for her losing money because of the time spent for free.  Something else usually happens and ruins things anyways.

In the process, I lost a lot of money I could have made during the time I spent for free and I no longer can enjoy this person's company again.  If we would have kept it as a business arrangement, I would still know them today and could still have good times with them.  I regret not keeping it a business arrangement because I really did have good times.  

Providers have other obligations and this money is how we pay our bills.  This is not a "dating" service.  Clients should know this.  Our time is money to us.  We know this going into it.  We keep our feelings for clients on the down low for clients because we know you have wives, girlfriends, timing in your lives, etc., so please don't ask us to date you or see you outside of the business part.  Please keep it separate.

I think this can only work if the provider initiates it but also it DOES work sometimes. And sometimes NOT. Some of my best friends are previous clients but we have stopped seeing each other as provider/client and I never really think about how we met until someone asks me how we know each other. I think you meet friends in all stages of life, however I think it is important to know that this doesn't work for everyone, and it doesn't work with everyone either. I can't be friends and hang out with all my clients, but sometimes you do click and who am I to say no to really good friendship. To be friends is something that has to come naturally and can't be forced. Let it take the natural course.

Puss och Kram
Swedish Anna

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This isnt really the place to find a real relationship. The closest ive ever seen anyone come to an actual relationship is a sugar daddy arrangement.
In short if you want a gfe then the ladies on here are perfect. if you want a girlfriend to go to the movies with i suggest Lavalife or Match.com

Once Ariel walked from the water on her own two legs, she was incapable of returning to the sea where she once inhabited with a tail.  Looking at it from another angle; Would you make a similar financial proposition to a female friend or associate of yours? I don't think most people are capable of making such moral flip flops.  I think once you take the "relationship" outside and connect on a social level, you might as well take it for what it really is...you've gained a new friend and if you wish to continue in the hobby, find another provider.  Personally, I've had the pleasure of meeting some awesome people and wouldn't mind connecting on another level.  But I wouldn't try and go back to the way things were if we did.  Of course you can always let Ariel stay in the sea and visit her when the occasion permits.

Several years ago, while hobbying in CA, I recall a provider who ended up leaving the business to marry a former client. If I remember correctly, the provider was approaching retirement and looking to move into the next phase of her life. I suppose anything is possible. Like anything else, timing is everything!!!