This is probably a "well, duh" post, but I'm constantly amazed at guys who continue to visit providers with less than average review ratings.  Apparently these guys see ads and just go with it.  Do they look at reviews, or just the donation amount?  I'm baffled when a provider's reviews show performances below 5 or 4 consistently, yet these guys show up anyway.  Thoughts?

1) Money

Sounds about right.  Also, if a guy can't afford, or is too cheap, to become a board member, he probably goes for the lower price point as well.

Not necessarily so. Sometimes it's a matter of which provider responds first. Or the "high-end" provider doesn't respond in a timely manner at all. Hobbying around here in PHX often times require a Plan B because of the likelihood of the Plan A provider being unavailable. But a provider with consistently poor reviews might stay hidden from sight also because the non-VIP members inability to see the ratings, on that, I would agree.  

with good looks/service combination, hence the market for sub par looks/service providers  who can survive with poor reviews for years. The good ones are mostly priced 300 - 400+ for an hour that puts them out of reach for several mongers (including me).

Yes, it is cheaper to hobby in other countries, but you still have to pay lots of money to travel.

........ is about $500.  You see 4 providers (one per day)  for $200 per hour session. Your base spending is $325 per session. That doesn't include a car rental or  local travel, restaurant meals etc. Probably minimum about $75 per day.

The key to this operation is to get the travel there to be free by using miles.  Then once there either use points for a rental car or to go to a country where rental car deals can be had for less than $15 per day and then further to find a underground free parking garage connected to a bathroom to sleep in and a truck stop for showers or to just take a shower at the providers apartment, which is traditional in certain countries and customary. Then you can get a good economical session for less than $50 per session if you play your cards right.  Also if you have a free lounge pass you can eat for free at various airport lounges thereby making the travel eating costs that day cheaper than ordinary if you were at home instead.

While your travel costs points are legitimate I don't go to Toronto just to get laid.  They offer more of the things I seek more than the typical such as nude-reverse adult body rubs and huge selection of young gorgeous escorts for $US200 or less, with no hard to schedule issues and most important no legal issues.   I also have friends I meet with.   It is just a totally more positive environment.  

Thank you for doing the math and calling these gents out...

Never been there - have to check it out. I am more into Asian and Latina providers hence my go to places are the Bay Area and CR.

Yes, Toronto , San Francisco and  Costa Rica are fun places for p4p.

I prefer more sensual sessions as well with lots of foreplay. Actually I prefer foreplay over the actual "doing it" stuff...

The other benefit to Canada is you don't have to worry about LE!  That is a huge benefit that really has no price tag.

Just because a Phoenix provider charges 400, 500 or even 600 an hour does not mean she has good looks or good service.

Please share your intel with us. I'm sure I'm not the only monger who would appreciate reviews of the 250-300 ladies that blew away your experiences with the 400, 500 or even 600 an hour ladies that you have fucked in Phoenix.

Since when did it become a rule that  you have to write reviews to validate your opinion of the women you see?  

Reviews would help the rest of us make informed decisions based on your  experiences. Seeing that you clearly are more knowledgeable about the value of the p4p ladies in Phoenix, it would nice of you to spread that knowledge.

I'm part of this community, but you and the sub par providers don't like what I have to say.  

Don't have to write a full review, if you would like the discussion to be productive and helpful - sharing the names of the sub 300 providers with the ideal combination of looks and service would help fellow mongers...

Why should you or anyone else be rewarded for my work. All the info is here on ter you just have to put the time in and search

It was a simple question. I cannot search or PM because I don't have VIP - I had a few months back but never seen any value for it in Phx as I was not able to find the my favorites via this site.  

Then buy vip, if you can afford to see providers then you can afford 30 a month for vip. There's no excuse

@King - and yet, here she is, still working, still giving great service to her customers.  Kind of a nasty remark IMO.  No need to bash a provider based on your unsubstantiated opinion.

Tucson does have some great ladies down there and they are typically half of the rates in Phoenix. That's just to be fair. In this state, there are in fact great providers for less than $400 an hour. Phoenix is a large city, but it's not really comparable to NY, Chicago, California (in general) and Texas (in general). I see more women that are my type in more abundance available in those cities for $400-$500.  

Oh but it's okay if she bashes me with with her snide remarks. I'm not one to back down to people with aliases behind a keyboard.

A mandel is a man handle for a woman pretending to be a client.
Is this your 7th or 8th comment ever on this board using this alias? Or should i say attacking with this alias?

Don't worry you'll see much more of my comments and everyone has an alias..... dipshit.

I don't know where you're going with this. You have no reviews posted and only 14 comments,  by all definition you're a mandel.

Just an interested member trying to work out someone who shows up, blasts the majority of the Phoenix hookers for not being worth their donation and doesn't want to give any examples. Then claims to be attacked when called out to  substantiate those opinions.  

What snide remark did Lexi write about you?  She only said you probably have not seen more expensive providers, therefore you may not have an opinion using full information.  The same goes for the mongers here who want you to at least review the great ladies in the lower price points.  In both instances, you have not answered the question with specifics - just said you're not here to do other guys' research.  Based on your remarks here, who would use your reviews anyway?

What I don't like is low IQ people bashing an opinion or statement made by someone on here if it doesn't jive with there own opinion.

I didn't jump in until you made derogatory personal statements against a solid provider.  Your opinion has no bearing on my response.

As to do the summers get better? No and never...I dont mind heat but hot March thru October is just too long and brutal. I can't leave here but would in a heartbeat if I could to somewhere cooler with seasons and cooler air. Bruce Springsteen: "Better get out while you're young, tramps like us, baby we were born to run."

I just did a search under 300 with 8s or higher. Im impressed!

.....with a Cherry on top!!!

When I started out in the business 2 years ago my donation was 300/hr. I mostly received 1 hour booking requests, had an inbox full of fake, innapropriate and/ or ridiculous requests. The time and effort and level of difficulty of screening was exhausting compared to how it is now that my rate is 400/hr.  I do know that the longer you've been around and the more trusted and recognized you become as a provider this gets somewhat easier, but the higher rates heavily affect the ability to weed out bs. Or less desirable clients. I am not saying all guys paying 300 are undesirable, so please to not lose your shit and attack me for saying that! Lol. I simply mean that when you put yourself in the 200 to 300 price bracket you definitely increase the frustration and risk factor.

"Opions are much like assholes..."
"I think some are too shallow to appreciate the finer things in life."....  

...will have a different experience with her that everyone else had.
Kind of same difference with providers who see clients that have a known lengthy bad track record with other providers.