Phoenix

A number of arrests in the news today
maxwell44 23 Reviews 1791 reads
posted
1 / 29

They went after people who were soliciting child prostitution.  

Quotes from AZFamily.com article:
"It started an online ad. Once it was posted, the phone calls started rolling in. On the other end of the line, an undercover officer posing as a 16-year-old girl. While talking to potential johns on the phone, she made her age very clear.

"I'm 16," she can be heard saying on surveillance video. Apparently, that's exactly what the men wanted. Dozens agreed to meet her at a hotel.

...The charges these 30 suspects face are class 2 felonies, which could mean a minimum seven years in prison."

In the article's photo gallery, they imply that this was an ad they used...

phx1313 5 Reviews 838 reads
posted
3 / 29

Agreed!!! Disgusting  and pathetic  is the only way to describe those arrested.

oryx32 718 reads
posted
4 / 29
Dave76015 38 Reviews 811 reads
posted
7 / 29

Is it's going to give ammo to the do-gooders to keep the spotlight on Montgomery and Sheriff Fucktard to keep up the stings so they can "save the children" through entrapment.    
 I saw there was one 57yr old high school teacher who when found out "she" was 16yr old cheerleader, he wanted her to wear her uniform for $160 FS.  Sick mo fker.    

Wonder if any members were caught?   Did an advanced TER phone number search, and no response.  There were three hits through Google to other 3rd party review sites with similar ad postings but no reviewers.

Interesting how this got all the news, and the bust at Crown Plaza in N. Phoenix going after adult providers was pretty much under media blackout

oryx32 501 reads
posted
10 / 29
Motherbitch1 2 Reviews 688 reads
posted
12 / 29

30 soliciting a minor for prostitution
31 misdemeanor prostitution charges
21 drug-related felonies
18 adult business misdemeanors
16 outstanding felony warrants

Sounds like they also got some non-pedilfiles and maybe wrote some tickets for escorting with out a licence.  
Just speculating

Motherbitch1 2 Reviews 762 reads
posted
13 / 29

30 soliciting a minor for prostitution
31 misdemeanor prostitution charges
21 drug-related felonies
18 adult business misdemeanors
16 outstanding felony warrants

DAVEPHX 789 reads
posted
14 / 29

All this was just MSCO 111 and seems all customers lured from ads.

We know other Agencies also arrested companions that had nothing to do with MSCO or underaged.

SexyMilf4you See my TER Reviews 594 reads
posted
15 / 29

...would hate to get references from some ticketed ladies.  IJS

tvlaw 58 Reviews 648 reads
posted
16 / 29

I concur that anyone that is desirous to have a 16 year old person perform an illegal sex act is despicable. However, I do not agree with LE methods of how they orchestrate their stings. They failed to mention that the ad that was posted on BP represented an 18 year old female. They also failed to mention that this CRI (confidential reliable informant) did not disclose in many cases that they were  actually 16 until the client or target was at the location. Moreover, they failed to mention the unethical  trickery utilized to entrap many of the targets.  Comes Now, LE is trying to associate the entire adult hobby as a part of these cases. LE may have a problem with governmental misconduct in some or all of these cases. If these ladies are not 16???  Should the government be excused to assist and or conspire with a 16 year old to advertise an illegal enterprise? I think not! This very well is just the beginning of LE agenda to utilize the BP publication to Charge many providers as well as hobbyist.  I have no problem with arresting pedophiles. However, LE should limit their scope to pedophiles and not misrepresent to tax payers that pedophilia is part of the adult hobby that is victimless.

maxwell44 23 Reviews 557 reads
posted
17 / 29

I agree that the conduct of LE is way out of hand.  They tricked that CEO of Wild Oats the way you are describing.  The ad said the provider was 18, and he believed she was 18.  Then he meets with her in a motel room, then the undercover officer said something like "Can you buy me some cigarettes?  I am not old enough."  One can only speculate if the guy even knew what the hell she was talking about.  It wasn't even his intention to meet a 17 year old.   As a side note, the cop who was pretending to be 17 was really in her 30s.  So the guy doesn't leave immediately, and he is charged with soliciting a minor. It is not that she was a really minor, it is that he "thought" she was a minor that is the crime.  

Then when the state prosecuted him, the conduct of prosecutors was even worse.  They started by lying to a grand jury.  They told the grand jury that the ad said she was 17, and the guy replied to the ad.  Based on that, the grand jury issued the indictment.  Of course the guy's lawyers argued that the ad said she was 18 not 17.  That is a major material misstatement of facts, to put it in very polite terms.  The prosecutor said it was an honest mistake (yea right).  The judge sided with the prosecutor, and affirmed that lying to a grand jury is perfectly acceptable.  

This is how they did in fact entrap and then prosecute this guy, then for the media circus part of the equation, they crack down on all forms of prostitution even between consenting adults that have nothing to do with stuff like this, then they show examples of these pedophile cases, they lump all these cases together as if they are all the same thing, then claim that all of this is being done "for the children".    
Posted By: tvlaw
I concur that anyone that is desirous to have a 16 year old person perform an illegal sex act is despicable. However, I do not agree with LE methods of how they orchestrate their stings. They failed to mention that the ad that was posted on BP represented an 18 year old female. They also failed to mention that this CRI (confidential reliable informant) did not disclose in many cases that they were  actually 16 until the client or target was at the location. Moreover, they failed to mention the unethical  trickery utilized to entrap many of the targets.  Comes Now, LE is trying to associate the entire adult hobby as a part of these cases. LE may have a problem with governmental misconduct in some or all of these cases. If these ladies are not 16???  Should the government be excused to assist and or conspire with a 16 year old to advertise an illegal enterprise? I think not! This very well is just the beginning of LE agenda to utilize the BP publication to Charge many providers as well as hobbyist.  I have no problem with arresting pedophiles. However, LE should limit their scope to pedophiles and not misrepresent to tax payers that pedophilia is part of the adult hobby that is victimless.

SlavetoLust 663 reads
posted
18 / 29

all part of government employee and elected officials who believe they have a moral obligation to battle "sin".  This particular war on sin was an offshoot of the Temperance movement when certain women wanted booze outlawed because some men were spending all their time and money in saloons.  Voila  morals laws (sometimes called blue laws) were born to fight sin and keep Americans "healthy".  Too bad we weren't able to repeal all laws against prostitution when Prohibition was repealed.  
And, please don't lay this at the door of conservatives. Many conservatives are also Libertarian. We think the government needs to get all its laws out of people's bedrooms.  
Whenever this country finally grows up, perhaps we can get government back to its true and legitimate functions and leave citizens alone. (true and legitimate functions is a subject for another day.)

sedonaw See my TER Reviews 575 reads
posted
19 / 29

and keep the investigations ongoing.  Why pause in between?? Keep busting those pedophiles!!!! Duh....

Posted By: maxwell44
They went after people who were soliciting child prostitution.    
   
 Quotes from AZFamily.com article:  
 "It started an online ad. Once it was posted, the phone calls started rolling in. On the other end of the line, an undercover officer posing as a 16-year-old girl. While talking to potential johns on the phone, she made her age very clear.  
   
 "I'm 16," she can be heard saying on surveillance video. Apparently, that's exactly what the men wanted. Dozens agreed to meet her at a hotel.  
   
 ...The charges these 30 suspects face are class 2 felonies, which could mean a minimum seven years in prison."  
   
 In the article's photo gallery, they imply that this was an ad they used...

tvlaw 58 Reviews 482 reads
posted
21 / 29

Correct Maxwell, good post.  I wish I could say more...

Dave76015 38 Reviews 465 reads
posted
24 / 29

But if they did that, an old, fat blowbag of hate wouldn't be able to get in front of the TV cameras and say "look at me!".

undercoverlover 28 Reviews 485 reads
posted
25 / 29

So by the responses on this post, many folks from other states would get their dicks cut off.

1705218 10 Reviews 486 reads
posted
26 / 29

these arrests were made in AZ and the rest of the nation has nothing to do with the topic.

maxwell44 23 Reviews 700 reads
posted
27 / 29

It said that in the year 1880, the age of consent used to be 10 in a lot of states.  But I think that back then (pre-industrial age) people were still arranging marriages for their kids.  So basically kids from different families marry each other so that families could join together for economic reasons.  Not 40 year olds marrying 10 year olds, that would have to have been considered wrong no matter what century you are talking about.  

As for today, age of consent of 18 only appears to be the law in 12 states.  The age is 16 in 30 states and all of Canada.

A lot of states where the age is 18 will have exemptions if both parties are under 18.  Otherwise they would be arresting high school sweethearts all over the place.  

In AZ, technically it is still illegal for two people under the age of 18 to engage in sex with each other, although the law provides for a defense in that case.  But that means you could still get charged with that crime, then you can use that defense.  Not exactly the same thing as saying that it is legal.  

What is considered a class 2 felony here may be perfectly legal in Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, etc.
The only difference is that you need to be standing on the other side of an imaginary line in the ground.    

On one side of the line, you are under arrest and going to prison.  On the other side of the line, the cop will say "carry on."

undercoverlover 28 Reviews 516 reads
posted
28 / 29

I'm not in a pissing match with you sport.  The point being...what if someone from a state with a lower age of consent was simply visiting?  There were no consistent cell phone laws from state to state until last year. So continue to "like" your tepid responses.  The universal condemnation in this post was simply that of age, not age in Arizona.

undercoverlover 28 Reviews 629 reads
posted
29 / 29

One thing if someone has disdain for dating young women/girls. But where there is no consistency of the application of law for the same behavior is always a challenge.  I remember the uproar years ago when I women visiting from a Scandinavian country was castigated and condemned for being a bad mother when she left her baby in a carriage outside of a restaurant.  That was an accepted practice in her country where crime for her entire country was less than 2% of crime for the given US city.

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