for months and believe you when you say you want to build a community where troublemakers are not welcome. I will take you at your word that you will keep the drama off of this board.
Let me be the first to publicly thank you for everything you do for the Phoenix Providers. You are loved more than you realize. Maybe I should say you are lusted after more than you realize 
XoXoXo
UTR Cocksucker
PS - call me when you get to Phoenix, I'll thank you in person (I assume as Moderator you can see my real username?)
thanks for the kind words utr cocksucker (what an alias), I do know who you are.
Be well all,
D15
And yes, it's the perfect alias for that post!
This forum has limitations. People speak their minds but yet the clues we gain from face to face communication are missing. It is too easy to take an opinion and view it as a personal attack. Gents,this may be more true for the ladies who not only post their views but use utilize this tool to pursue their trade, which is a personal service. Ladies, remember the gents have thoughts and feelings that go beyond their zippers and wallets. NO really we do LOL! Our little town is made great by participation, and that will continue only if there is respect. We are lucky to have so many of sharp mind and quick wit.
I like to see providers posting about changes in their business such as new pictures, websites, specials,etc. I also enjoy some of the questions that are posted as to what men like or how women view things differently from men...these things keep things a little more casual than business all the time.
An example of things that I would like to see less of are posts that pertain to upcoming surgery for what ever reason - and no Megan, this isn't directed specfically at you...many ladies have posted about upcoming surgeries. Why couldn't it be a simple post that the provider is taking a few personal days off & leave the drama out of it. If it is for new boobs....bring it up after the twins have arrived and are ready for some manly attention. Posts like this are a little too self serving IMHO...getting some sympathy before the surgery and looking for attention after. If the surgery is not for "twins"..then I would think that a personal matter like that would be better handled with personal emails and not posted for everyone to read. A few years ago this board was like a Hollywood tabloid, the ladies would have threads thanking each other for complements by the other ladies on how they dressed at ladies night out....we haven't had that for a long time...and hopefully not again.
I think that for the most part men enjoy the ladies' posting when it doesn't have alot of drama built into it, includes useful information, and doesn't include alot of personal info that we don't really need to hear about.
My 2 cents worth!
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Your post is a prime example of why most of the ladies as of late have stopped posting. You said, "No Megan, this isn't directed specifically at you.." but then go on and on specifically about my posta. Come on, at least own it when you're personally attacking me.
I didn't post what my surgery was for, Mya did. And Mya and three other ladies were the only ones who knew what I was having done and I had planned to keep it that way. In fact, I asked each lady I told specifically not to mention it, that I didn't want it mentioned and Mya did anyhow. I'm sure she didn't do it maliciously, she probably just forgot that I didn't want it mentioned to anyone. Either way, I addressed it with her personally.
The reason I posted anything is because I am going to be out of commission for the month of May and I wanted to offer people the opportunity to see me before surgery. I definitely don't need nor was I asking for sympathy from a public board full of relative strangers. I can't even imagine where you got the idea from any of my posts that it was for sympathy. I don't ask for anyone's sympathy on anything ever. And certainly not from this group of people who thrive on negativity and outing one another and putting each other down at every opportunity. And I certainly am not nor was I asking for attention before or after. So, that's more personal attacks on me from you just as it was two weekends ago which is basically why the intelligent ladies with something to say here have stopped posting. You can thank yourself for that one and a few others can do the same. Don't believe me? Go look at the board after the weekend you and I went rounds and you raked me over the coals all because I believe in privacy practices.
Now, yes posting about my surgery was self-serving, just as every ad post is which is, ironically, what this board is for. I was trying to give people who want to see me the opportunity to do so before I take the month of May and part of the month of June off. In fact, both times I mentioned my surgery, it was in an advertising post. Not an, "Oh I'm having surgery, feel sorry for me, pay attention to me." thread. It was an ad post which, at last check, was perfectly legal here on this board.
If you guys want to sit here and talk amongst yourselves, you keep doing what you're doing. We'll see how interesting this board is without any of the women here. Many of you have basically proclaimed this board as yours and we ladies are just giving you what you keep screaming is yours. You all don't seem to want the women to display any intelligence or opinions that differ from yours, then we won't. You guys claim it's the ladies who bring the drama here, but funny enough.....look at your dramatic little post to me...it's chock full of attack and insult and drama. Do you guys not see that it's you guys who do a majority of the attacking? You guys attack the men who aren't part of your little boardroom and other cliques and it's the ladies who, for the most part, stand united with one another. We have to, we're constantly being attacked or put down for posting our opinions.
So, before you scream that you don't want the drama.....take a look around at the board for the last week and see where the drama is coming from. Most of the ladies haven't even posted yet there are mile-long threads with you guys bashing one another and putting each other down. For you guys this is a hobby, for we ladies, this is our career and our business, our job. There are plenty of places to advertise and get business without being publicly put down or attacked for the way we do it, this is just one of them. This used to be a place where like-minded ladies and men could get together and discuss different things from the hobby to busts to politics to any and everything in between. Now it's a place to go if you're bored and want to be attacked and treated like shit. Both the men and the women who are considered by some as "outsiders" get attacked. And a majority of the attackers are the men. This is why we ladies haven't been and probably will not post. Who needs it? Not me, not Terri, not Ciara, not Roxanne, and not any other woman who is no longer posting. We'd rather be working and having fun and spending actual time with men who adore intelligence, attractive women with great skills and smiles on our face. This place lately is not the place for we women with the traits I listed above. Rather it's a place to be attacked for posting to get business, explaining why we'll be out for a month, posting that we liked meeting each other at certain places, etc. etc. etc.
You guys enjoy one another and see how long it takes to get bored without the bantar of the intelligent, beautiful women who used to be here to provide you some insight into us along with letting you know when we are available to spend time with. I suspect it won't be long before some of you wise up and realize that without the ladies, this is just like any/every other message board on the internet.
Regards,
Megan
PS If you guys really do hate the drama, stop bringing it to the boards yourselves. Northdak, read your post..THAT is a prime example of the drama you claim the men hate and it was posted by a man to attack a female's posts. My post isn't dramatic, it's in response and to make the point that was made by one other guy and then reiterated twice now by me. That the ladies are leaving one by one. Rethink your posts before you hit send. The drama Kings are the men on this board, not we ladies.
and this will be my last response to anything for a long time unless it's strictly for specials, donation changes and hours (which is what this board is for). The only drama created on this board is first created from an insulting comment by a man. Of course, we will defend ourselves. This is our business, not a hobby. It's too bad some men don't like flirting. Personally, I thought the Yoga-induced/tantra experience with several of you guys would have been fun, certainly not "ditzy." LOL
To all those who wish to see me without the drama, please email or call me. I'll be waiting with open arms and a smile, because that's why I'm here.
Hugs,
Ciara
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If you like the idea of what Dingus wrote, Ciara, then stick around and continue to participate and give him a chance to show that he means it. Eventually one of these mentalities is going to crowd the other out.
The interesting thing is that, when you say you'll leave if things don't change, what you really mean is that you'll stop participating, but you'll probably still follow what happens here. The result of that, however, will be of little benefit to you or the gentlemen.
In contrast, if the Negatrons (I just made that up) toward whom Dingus' moderation policies are directed stop posting, I believe they will continue to follow the board, as well. They will continue to read about the interesting, intelligent and fun ladies in the community, and perhaps, little by little, they will realize that it can still be an enjoyable forum without their Negatronicity.
In other words, stick around and see what happens next!
[Subject line typo edited]
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and you've made several good points. Thank you! And just so everyone knows, the "wink" thing is not only a way to joke or flirt with someone, it's also a tribute to my deceased grandma -- personal story, won't get into it. So, I'll be winking away.
Hugs,
Ciara
Wink till your heart's content.. I follow your posts and think its great *wink* *wink* double wink there 
..oops there it is again
but then you'll have to read the National Board. The natives are friendlier there and I won't be posting here for awhile, along with some other providers -- too much drama. Wink!
Hugs,
Ciara
Modified for spelling. Darn fingers type too fast.
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And no one knows better then U! I didn't waste my time reading your post because it's always the same tone and the same dribble.
P.S. I thought you posted here about moving soon.
If you didn't bother to read what I wrote, how is it that you have an opinion of it?
See? Another example of a problematic person here on this board. You guys are just lining up to prove Dingus' and OC's point as well as my own and several of the other intelligent ladies' points on this board.
Some people need some real hobbies! Maybe educate yourselves so you don't feel so threatened when there is an intelligent man or woman in your midst. Spend less time thinking about getting your dick wet and more time thinking about how you can be a positive contribution to life in general. How's that for a thought?
Megan
PS How would you know what I posted when you readily admit that you don't read or attempt to comprehend? Threatened much, NewBrew?
i dont really see any of the ladies who post here. Im off working craigslist and the backpage looking for that up and comer or the one on way down.
I use the board for the occasional nugget of useful info that comes along or the warnings that crop up. most posts i dont click on because they mean nothing to me at all.
In my opinon a lot of extraneous verbal masturbation is posted, thats inevitable on any board. this one just suffers from it more than most. theres no real solution other than ignore it and hope it goes away. Im not pointing at anyone though if you think i am referring to you the old adage "the guilty flee when no man pursues" may apply
I am not a Phoenix person, but I stop by to visit friends occasionally.
Thanks for your efforts to make it a "nicer" place to visit.
Just my opinion...
B
to know that personal attacks and personal information that should not be put on a public board will no longer be tolerated. It is a pleasure to have you monitoring the Poon Valley Tabloid...we will have to ask the Mayor to proclaim a Dingus15 day when you come to town with a welcome party....phx provider community is famous for its parties by the way....Thanks again Dingus.
Thank you for always being a gentleman and always posting with objective viewpoints. You're a sweet man and believe me, we (providers) thrive on men like you -- polite, clean, appreciative and just a good human being.
Hugs,
Ciara
he said eyes averted to the floor and blushing profusely.
Just my opinion...
B
Despite the fact that Dingus just laid down the law to you, your post still suggests that you don't get it" a) It's Dingus' board, and b) the ladies are very welcome to post as DINGUS wishes.
However, your boorish suggestion that you only care about a lady having surgery if/when her boobs are ready for you to play with amazes me. In other words, to you the ladies are nothing but toys for your pleasure, not fellow human being about whom you might actaully care? You have no idea what you're missing in life (from this community) by displaying such an attitude.
For saying in far fewer words what I said in probably too many! I adore you and thank you for getting it! You're a stupendous individual and some of the guys here could stand to take a lesson from you as well in how to treat your fellow humans. I know there are many more men like you and Modprod who lurk because many of them, thankfully come to enjoy time with me. But I wish they'd come out of the shadows and outnumber the boorish turds who yap far too much and disrespect the ladies and the gentlemen of this board openly and constantly.
You are fantastic and I cannot wait to hang out with you soon! I'm grateful for men like you who have souls and minds and who know how to respect women and treat we providers like the ladies most of us are!!
Love you,
Megan
when i posted to megan about her surgery it was only to let her know shes in our thoughts and show some support.[hopefully i'm speaking for the majority of the board].although its elective , there are still some risks..its not about sympathy or advertising..just showing you care..
be a post in the very near future that everything is now healed and ready for play. Maybe my post was vague enough where it could be misconstrued...but your intrepretation, was not what was intended. I would much rather see a post that states about some personal time off....and when the provider comes back...then post about the new "her". If you take except to the use of the word " manly"...the point there was that the majority of hobbyists are men and not women...which is a simple fact and not just an opinion.
If all we have is too much drama & un-needed information by the providers, most hobbyists will do what they do at home...and that is nod our head and say yes dear.
I specifically stated that my post was not directed at Megan...because I knew she would take offense to it and rebutt. That is her right to post her opinion as it is mine, but maybe her opionion could be intrepretted by me as an attack against me also?
"If the surgery is not for "twins"..then I would think that a personal matter like that would be better handled with personal emails and not posted for everyone to read." It's hard to misinterpret that. Sounds like you are only interested in a lady's personal challenges if it involves body enhancement...otherwise, keep it off the board. If that's not what you meant, please clarify.
FWIW, I would hope that this board is available for people to exchange information about themselves that they think most of the members of this community would want to know. For example, last year, a provider lost her son in an accident. A lot of space was used offering condolences and even arranging for some community support. Sure some providers have personas that they maintain, and we never know much if anything about their real/private lives, but for those who open up and give us a glimpse into the rest of their lives, enjoy and appreciate it (and THEN go enjoy the twins, as you say!)
would a provider post this on a public board other than to advertize.
I would think that having surgery, no matter what it is, should be considered "personal" & would be better left un-publicized until after. Then it becomes useful information to the hobbyists if she wants to post about it at that time.....Wasn't it just last week that alot of privacy issues were brought up on this board.
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I DID make a post not too long ago about an upcoming surgery. Why??? Because I didn't want rumours being tossed about involving what it was for. I wanted to be honest but it appears with you, my honesty is being thrown back in my face. Was it in relation to my business, well, yes, because I don't keep email addresses of my gentleman friends(unless they ask me to) and I knew there would be times that I would be unavailable for awhile and let them know what is going on with me. Believe it or not, there are some guys who actually care about our welfare(most of whom would never post on this board).
Another reason for posting it was that I am frightened and possibly someone in our extended community could shed some light for me.
Was I trying to get attention or advertise......NO. When I did advertise, I advertised a special rate, a raffle and an auction. Other than that, I RARELY ever even included my link in a post.
I cannot believe I now need to defend myself about this matter.
For those of you who DO care, Thank you. Thanks for the offers of help in various forms.
Thank you, Dingus, for inviting us ladies to participate on the "discussion" board. Unfortunately, most of us have been fed up with it long ago. 90% of participation is from the "golden gaggle" who knock down anyone who has a different opinion than their own. That's where most of the drama originates from. Often when a lady(or gent) is merely defending themself, they are made to look bad by a few ignorant folks.
Unless things change, I, like others am not going to post unless I am offering a special, etc...There are just too many censors who only want to read something that is going to raise the little head. That's why Phoenix is known for its SHILL posts! They only want to see posts they are interested in and easily knock down something that does not interest them. I've even seen some guys saboutage one ladies post or ad, and turn it into an ad for another lady.....Yep, only in Phoenix.
Ever read the book by Ray Bradbury entilted, Farenheit 451? Some of you would have made excellent firemen.......you should be proud!
And since I do believe I still have the right to free speech, what the heck.........here's my link LOL!
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(as I am not going to search for your post) you did say what your surgery was for and why you were posting...to stop any rumors. I happen to have met you and I believe you shared some of your history...so I believed your post & take no issue with it.
However most posts on this board concerning surgeries are for the reason I posted and I believe they are no more than advertizing....while yet being quite personal and I would think Private...providers can't have it both ways. Providers that tell clients that they are going to have cosmetic surgery in the near future and then they post or a friend posts about their upcoming surgery...its just not coincidence. Then others jump on the thread like it is a life threatening surgery ( I know there can be complications with any surgery), these posts take away from the real tragedies where someone is fighting cancer or the loss of a loved one.
I, like others posting before me, applaud your effort to keep the board civil. I do hope, however, that members can still come here and express their personal and, sometimes, dissenting opinions in a straight forward, blunt and/or forthright manner should they elect to do so. While not everyone may appreciate the manner in which others present themselves, they still have the right to do so as long as it is done in a civil fashion. Seems to me also that if an individual elects to put something out there in a post expressing an opinion, observation or point of view, they ought to be prepared to hear differing opinions or stong objection to their stance should others feel that way. It would appear of late that some are taking a difference of opinion as a personal attack. If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen regarding a controversial statement or point of view that you wish to make, then perhaps you shouldn't be in the kitchen.
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Friggin eh, my spelling and grammer really suck today, ergo, these modifications
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with varying but valid points of view....alot of whats called "drama" isnt really....
and I really don't care if Dingus monitors me for pointing out the obvious.
Although this is a business for the Ladies, they have feeling and you cannot refer to the Lady with deragatory names, announce to the world that there is no way that her appearence could possible deserve anything above a 6, provide personnal information like the location of their incall, or tell the Ladies that this is "MY BOARD" and if you ladies want to post you have to be on your "best behaviour..." Your confrontation attitude, which you try to hide behind with statements like its "only my opinion", shows a complete lack of respect for everyone and especially the ladies. And their response to such attacks have mostly been that they feel sorry for you, you need to get another hobby and that you need to seek professional help (which I fully agree with).
It's self-centered, egotistical, incensitive, immature gentlemen(?) like you who have created this cituation. And since opinions are like assholes, we really don't care about yours.
Either apologize to the ladies or just SHUT UP!!!!!!!
you finally spit it out, all your anomosity toward me flows from a single objective comment. What I find curious is that you ignore alot of other potential "issues" but focus on me. You also consistantly seem to post strictly from the indie providers prespective. I'm curious about this "we dont really care"....sounds to me like this handle is really a front for 1 or more indies (gee I wonder who)...of course thats just an opinion (but one thats been brought up multiple times to me BTW)....
TrashyCat's not really a provider, indie or otherwise. He's a hobbyist. I know multiple providers who have seen him.
"you finally spit it out, all your anomosity toward me flows from a single objective comment."
No, not one comment but numerous insults to the ladies of the board. You complete lack any decency is what caused this problem and the ladies are tired of it. I've been tired of it quite awhile but bit my tongue trying not to cause problems. Well, enough is enough. I've decided to take you on and let the chips fall where they may.
"What I find curious is that you ignore alot of other potential "issues" but focus on me."
I focus on you because it seems you've harassed everyone else in Phoenix and they no longer want to confront you, I think they've already figured out that your not worth the hassle. Well, I'm a little dense and haven't given up yet.
"You also consistantly seem to post strictly from the indie providers prespective."
The agencies can defend their ladies, besides I'm not in the habit of promoting agencies as some are on this board.
"I'm curious about this "we dont really care"....sounds to me like this handle is really a front for 1 or more indies (gee I wonder who)...of course thats just an opinion (but one thats been brought up multiple times to me BTW)...."
I'll bet my d__ks bigger than yours, LOL, but you know hacker, if it was just a pimple on my ass it would definitely be bigger than yours.
I am not one of the indies in the area. If I was, I'd be making a hell of allot more money than I am now.
you again go on the the attack. It seems your personal feelings from a long past issue are still poisoning you. Look in mirror the venom is actually now flowing from you. You have earned respect from many but yet lower yourself with name calling and pursuit of personal vendetta.
Hacker has every right to his opinion about sarah. not having seen her myself i have no idea if i would agree with him or not. I can point out one small tidbit though. His opinon carries more weight with my self than yours does.
so got a mail drop where i can send some pom poms?
can beat up your dad.
TC, name calling and childish taunts are the refuge of a person that has lost their ability to reason and debate.
Whatever it is that is bothering you, I suggest you take a step back and think. Modprod may have hit the nail on the head...a long-a-go feud that just won't be let go.
I hope your post to the ladies is really a post to all TER members. Otherwise, you have just created a protected class of TER citizens that will feel they can push the bounds and people will feel they cannot respond for fear of moderation.
I urge you to clarify your post, Dingus. You may think it is clear that you are offering assitance to all TER members, but when I first read it.... well that is not how I am interpreting it.
So, what happens when I respond to a post by a lady who privately wronged me (cheated me, back channeled a rumor about me, ....)? The reason for a strongly worded post may not be obvious.... you will not have the context to make an informed decision.
Completely different example, take Playmate Megan's propensity to post how honest and discrete she is. Well, if somebody posts reminding her of how she shared PM messages on the board and challenging that honest/discrete assertion - what is going to happen then? Or Ciara, when she posts that she was called a "ditz" - when in fact she was never called a ditz (and that whole thing has now been taken way out of context)! Nobody is going to want to respond to that challenging her on that - for fear of moderation.
I want ALL TER members to participate on the board, Dingus. As I am sure you do. But, my un-named friend, I fear you have just created open season on anybody that takes the time to refute a claim, a guised point, or whatever.
God, your job must suck!
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for sharing this PM with us. I think that how this person interpreted the orignal post is how many hobbyists may have also. Too bad he didn't feel he could have posted it himself.
but please let those opinions of others be spoken still, this is a democracy not a dictatorship. We are blessed to live in a country where freedom of speech is allowed, hopefully that isn't taken away on a Phoenix Escort Board. With that being said, I understand your need to protect personal information, and slander. BTW, Northdak you are the most ignorant idiot that I thankfully have never met. Your posts are superficial, unintelligent and boring. You should be thankful any of these ladies are willing to see you no matter what the price.
xoxo
Angelina
I tried to warn you about this in my last post to you. The trend was obvious, first that I remember was Asherah, a wonderful, sweet, thoughtful lady whose post I thoroughly enjoyed, then Roxanne, Megan, Ciara, etc. Forewarned is forearmed I believe the saying goes.
Although I commend you for attempting to correct the situation, I'm afraid it's beyond your capabilities. It's up to the gentlemen of Phoenix to take the offenders to task and defend the honor and integrity of the ladies. I wish I had more time to challenge every disrespectful, slanderous post, but having a business to run which provides my livelihood takes precedence.
So, to the gentlemen of Phoenix, are we going to continue to sit on our hand and let these tyrants drive the ladies off the board or are we going to confront these "board boy bullies" who continually belittle and slander the wonderful ladies we admire and appreciate?
"Speak now or forever hold your peace."
I understand the desire to "slap down" members who themselves are mean, divisive, or disrespectful. The problem is that you can't put out a fire with a blow torch. I join you in calling for respectful communication, and also in calling out the quiet gentlemen who really are the silent majority on this board, to put peer pressure on offenders. However, I urge you to not lose the moral high ground by using offensive language to make your points, because they are good points, and are not made better with insults.
I believe that most of the people in this community are here because of some sort of pain in their lives or pasts. Being kind, even to those who are unkind, is really good karma. (Or if you prefer, “Our enemies provide us with a precious opportunity to practice patience and love. We should have gratitude toward them.”--Tenzin Gyatso, The 14th Dalai Lama).
Besides, there is nothing that drives a bully crazier than a polite, articulate, assertive response!
Keep speaking.
Speak well.
Be safe.
Have fun.
Now how can one debate that. The responses to polite, articulate, assertive opinions are...
1 Na Na Na Na
2 Oh yeah?
3 My dad can beat up your dad
4 You are a #*@#$$
Keep the faith baby , yes I do remember that one
[Wish I could figure out how to insert pictures with long URLs]
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OC,
I agree with everything you said and if you feel that I am loosing the moral high ground, please feel free to correct me.
TC
"I believe that most of the people in this community are here because of some sort of pain in their lives or pasts."
That is an interesting thought. I guess the other night would be considered the "past" and for it, I am emtionally scarred for life. I'll forever be in pain. (joking of course)
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is there a list of rules for the ladies to follow. a girlfriend of mine told me I was only allowed to to start one discussion thread per week, and that I am only suposed to reply to posts after that. is that true? Where can i find a list of these rules. forgive me if its right in front of my face.
also as a provider how can I become unmodderated or get my posts through faster. curently when I leave a post it may be two days before it is posted and by then its placed on page two and never gets read. this doesn't encorage me post very often. I have never been involved in any drama. I have never flamed anyone male or female.
my perspective and opinion on the board. its basically always the same 15 ppl posting on the board. it seems when anyone who isn't in the click posts they are shunned or their posting or questions arent taken seriously. This mesage board does seem dangerous because of the negativity, the drama, the clickiness, and general unfriendlyness to new posters. I would like to post more on this board but dont feel welcomed and the drama this board seems to fill up with is a huge turn off. I dont only feel that I am unwelcomed but I also notice that when new guys post they are often ignored. I would like to see more than just the same 15 or 20 people posting all the time.
I highly recommend them from time to time. Take one and you will notice a big change in the way you feel about the biz. You will feel positive and more refreshed
I quit posting AND reading posts, and found I was much more positive in regards to the industry and the role I play in it. I also don't see how some of these people find the time to post on here so often. I wish I had that much time.
Maybe if some of the BS and drama leaves here and we get things back to the way they were years ago, I'll be back. I can't vacation forever...
