Very recently I canceled on a reviewed provider because she said the wrong thing in a text just before the session. This was going to be our first meeting so I've never actually met her and we have only communicated via text. While I was on my way she texted me and asked that I pick up certain items for the session. In the very, very recent past LE has used that statement in a text to entrap clients and use it as proof of illegal activity.  

I'm 90% certain she was legit and just needed me to get something for her, but the damage to my personal life if I was wrong would be catastrophic to put it mildly. She was understandably upset but when it comes down to it I'm not taking that kind of risk.  

Imagine ladies if a client on their way to a session said something in a text that was questionable and could be used against you in court. Would you still see them? What level of risk do you feel is worth the gain? For me, the gain of a hour with a lovely lady doesn't justify the risk of putting my personal life through a meat grinder.  

So here is my sincere apology to the lady in question if my cancellation put you out. I truly hope you were able to find another client.

I have been trying to plan a trip to Vegas with my favorite tart on her suggestion. Things were going ok and then out of the blue I get "well I can't really spend any extra time with you cause I want to hang out with my friends when in Vegas". Are you fucking kidding me? I was willing to plan my whole trip around her and this is what I get? I never thought we were spending the weekend together or that we are besties. Keep in mind I have been seeing this young lady for close to 2 years twice a month. Am I wrong to expect a little something extra?

You did the right thing to back out. Asking inappropriate questions just prior to an engagement would put me in a panic too. Some ladies are sometimes just too new to know better. It was very considerate of you to let her know you were backing out. Kudos to ya for that.

It goes both ways. I just had to last-minute cancel on someone when he started asking inappropriate menu questions. It caught me off guard because he's a TER member and has been around for years. Regardless, he got the "sorry but I have to cancel because your questions have made me uncomfy" speech. Situations like that suck because it's very difficult (as an indy) to fill a last minute cancellation when I'm in session. But like yourself, my safety and livelihood come first. I'd rather be a couple bucks poorer than be arrested, have a criminal record, pay thousands in court fines, etc..

Maybe an issue with your communication

Thank you Anna. I'm relieved a provider sees this the same way I did although I'm still wondering if I'm going to end up on a blacklist somewhere for being cautious.

No worries. As far as blacklisting, hopefully, you've taken the proper steps to keep your private information private. Try not to go down that rabbit hole. It's kind of like the provider worrying about the fake review from a scorned hobbyist. If a hobbyist is upset, it results in an unfavorable review. If a provider is upset, it results in a blacklisting. Can't we all just get along? Take the higher road and cruise into the next hot babe!

However, it has nothing to do with what I said. Please try to keep your replies on topic.

While I haven't posted a lot, I've done a lot of reading. Based upon your posts, you seem angry and don't like women. I'm not surprised that your P4P friend won't spend OTC time with you. But I only know what I've read.  

Hope all works out the way it should.  

Judging people on their comments on a fuck board. You don't know anything about me. Sure I come off as an ass on here but that is the point of the internet. Those that truly know me understand that I would walk through fire for those that I think something of. That is why I am so disappointed in my regular girl. Good try at changing the subject to criticizing me. Again, try to keep your posts on the OP's original topic rather than attacking me.

I think you should let us see your softer side, cause you come off like a jerk. If I shouldn't rely on what I read on a fuck board, then what does that say about the legitimacy of reviews?

Eggs_Over_Easy was only asking for advice and I gave him mine. Where is yours? You never gave him advice. Just changed the topic to you. Why not start a new thread for your problems?

I could go on for days. We'd probably have great sex but I gotta go to my day job now. Take care!

Find out what she is insecure about her appearance about.  For example if she is short tell her you found a really hot taller girl and you decided to take her instead or if she has small breasts tell her you found a bustier girl to take.  Then let her try to call you maybe 3-5 times without returning her call.  Then renegotiate the terms where she is not hanging out with other friends during the trip and tell her she is on thin ice if she makes any problems you will cancel for good.  

 

Well BallJoint,

IO have to agree with you. I have several regular clients that take me on trips, or fly me to their home cities. If they fly me to their home city, then we generally work out an arrangement to where I see them for a period each day, then I'm free to book other clients, shop, spa or whatever else comes to mind during the time I'm not with them. I also offer them a significant discount in my rates, for consideration of costs for hotel and airfare.  

If my regular wants me to be with him 24/7, I also discount my overnight rates to accommodate him. To me, this is my way of acknowledging that he is a great client and that I appreciate him wanting to spend a significant amount of time with me as his "go to" provider.

Lavanna

oute your trip.  Go to Germany instead of Las Vegas maybe fly into Frankfurt (although you will probably get the dreaded remote stand and bus to terminal) then after a few days drive to Czech Republic, then drive back to Germany to return the rental car.

I have never been one to say that reviews are the gospel. If a hooker has reviews that is good. Do I believe everything in those reviews? Hell fucking no.

My post was never about you or directed at you. YOU are the one that made this an issue.

I was simply commiserating with eggs about what happens when a hooker says the wrong thing.

Does it make you feel like a big girl to call me a jerk? lmao I've been called worse by better people than you.

We would never have great sex. Your services offered section has to many No's and Don't knows. A competent hooker's services offered section should not have any Don't knows. You do realize that you can control that right? A man should be able to look at your profile and know exactly what you offer. Please correct that and get back to me. In the mean time don't quit your day job sweetie.

It is clear that you understand this doesn't just have to be a business arrangement. You are a credit to your profession.

This is not about negotiating. It is about common courtesy.

Sounds like she asked you to pick up condoms.  I had that happened and I said I would NOT pick up condoms and was just interested in meeting as friends with no offer or agreement of sexual conduct in exchange for money or anything of value.  Then have her send you a full topless pic and then take her to a location other than her incall hotel room which the government has bugged.  

 

No. I've taken a ton of risks for specific gain.  Some worked out fantastic, some tanked.  I've never been in a situation where the gain was merely an hour of sexual pleasure that could result in altering my life on a catastrophic level.  Probably the riskiest decision I ever made for sexual pleasure was fucking one of my subordinates in every corner we could find while on duty.  I knew if we were discovered that I'd face some kind of reprimand, but I was the highest ranking supervisor and the odds weren't likely that this risk would have changed my life catastrophically.  The sex was too good and we both would have admitted nothing.   For the sake of consideration, if you had seen this lovely woman, let's say 3, 6 or even 12 times, and she asked you to pick up some condoms, in a text, right before your appointment.  Would you get them?  Would you see her?  If so, why? Is the risk less because you have seen her before?  If you are her only client, then I'd say there would be no risk.  If she see's other clients, then how do you know she hasn't been arrested and is cooperating with LE?  How do you know that she hasn't been arrested and her devices have been confiscated and it is LE who is texting you?  

Actually, familiarity w/ activity which could put your personal life in a catastrophic state seems incredibly risky.  I'd rather pay a monthly stipend, to one person and call it grocery money (for example).  The four times a month (or whatever the arrangement) you have sex would be mutual consent w/o a fee.  You've paid for groceries on the 1st, not the sex you had on the 5th, 11th, 24th and 28th (again, for example).  
    If you feel bad about cancelling last minute, compensate her.  You don't HAVE to fuck her or even SEE her.  But you can compensate her.  There is no law that is going to put your life in a catastrophic state for giving a person a few hundred bucks.  Unless you are trying to bribe someone.  

If she has a cancellation policy, you could consider paying it.  However, asking your client to bring something to the session so one can do their job isn't very well prepared.  If I was on my way to visit my lawyer and she asked me to pick up some legal pads for her before I arrived, or my CPA a calculator, I'd be more pissed than anything.  And I'd probably blurt out, WTF???  Then fire them, cancel, w/e.  I wouldn't want to see them, and I wouldn't pay the cancellation fee because they were obviously not prepared to do the job they promised if they were asking me to pick up their supplies.

What concerns me most is the fact that you obviously risk catastrophic, meat grinding life choices every time you pay for pleasure.  Catastrophe is a big word.  I take risks, but if I was arrested for escorting w/o a license or prostitution it would be a financial set back, a personal PITA, but it wouldn't put my life in a meat grinding catastrophic state.

What’s your definition of a meat grinding catastrophic state?  Your reputation, getting divorced, losing half of your money, prison?  

If your too important you probably should find one mistress.  If you can’t survive the financial loss of a divorce you probably shouldn’t be here.  You’re not going to go to prison if your hobby is discovered.  You’ll have a lot of close family and friends pissed at you.  It’d suck, but you’d live through it.  If being discovered fraternizing w/ people from this board would truly end in a meat grinding catastrophic state, then you should probably find a different way to indulge yourself

I'm with Emily Paige, i couldn't imagine partaking in an activity that I would deem totally catastrophic. I started playing with providers once I realized my marriage was done. The SO finding out would have been uncomfortable but not catastrophic to me.
I've since moved out and paying  amazing, sexy women for their time is a great alternative to the other world of committed relationships that sometimes come with boring sex.

Well Miss Emily if I read you correctly and you are suggesting I should compensate her I'm not with you on this. I apologized simply for the fact she seemed to be out some money but ultimately the mistake was hers and she was the reason the session didn't occur.  

Tell me, if the theoretical client texted you just before the session an said something stupid and you opted not to continue, is he deserving of any compensation? Even if a lady has a cancellation policy, if she is the cause of the cancellation she isn't due any consideration from the client.  

As far as describing a catastrophic event, loss of a career, losing half of everything you have worked for for starters begins to describe that. While this hobby carries significant risks they can be almost entirely mitigated when both parties understand the dance that needs to occur. When two people agree to meet and nothing has been discussed that alludes to sex for money there is virtually no risk.  

Defining an acceptable level of risk is a moving target for all parties and I have learned to heavily compartmentalize this lifestyle to make the risk acceptable. Unfortunately when a provider missteps in this simple dance I'm gone and while I may feel bad for her I'm not going to go to any other trouble other than to be polite and apologize.  

 

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That post was hilarious!  At least you found out her plans before you got Vegas.

You seem like you like to run your mouth. No rebuttal?

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Heh, I've had a provider ask me to pick up "a certain item" on the way a few times.  I mean, a pack of Camel Methols is one thing..but the "other" thing...yikes!  I usually bring the other thing along (just in case, consenting adults, yadda yadda), but yeah I can see your concern.  Fortunately I've never had this happen on a first meeting, but ladies *really* should be taking care of "that item" on their own!

You don't seem to find hijacking someone else's thread rude, but I do. Feel free to email if you'd like  to continue our delightful chat.

Don't bring cigarettes either, this is a hallmark of the stings.

Also who else besides the government sting would be smoking in a hotel room because if a legitimate provider smokes in her hotel room she risks a fine from the hotel if it is a non-smoking hotel which most are these days.  

Is it your opinion that I tried to hijack your thread?

When called out once again you deflect. You are just as guilty as me of "hijacking" the thread or you never would have responded to me. You just have your panties in a bunch because I called you out. I will let Eggs decide if I hijacked his thread(see post below) and if so say I am sowwy. Again my first post was never directed at you. YOU made it an issue.

   
You booked an appointment with a professional.  A professional would have everything needed to conduct the service they are promising to provide.  If this professional doesn't have everything in place and needs to you bring supplies of any kind  so they can deliver the service, this would be unacceptable for me.  Period.   I would NOT feel guilty and I would NOT feel obligated to reimburse.

I said you could offer to reimburse her because you felt bad about the last minute cancellation.  The suggestion to reimburse was made to alleviate your guilt and/or feeling bad because you backed out last minute.  I agree with your decision not to reimburse.  You are correct.  The derailment wasn't caused by you

Have you ever disagreed with a hooker or does the brown on your nose just continue to crust up and get thicker?

Nah, the hookers I see actually wash there arses. No brown stains from tuha.
I was just laughing that she got you to bite. Should have ignored her.

And I should have ignored you.

Have fun.

In essence you did but not in a way I cared or was concerned about.

Yes you are wrong for expecting a little extra. I'm quite sure she has other clients that have been seeing her just as long as you have and they don't expect anything extra. You are a client not her man and she owes you nothing more then what she gives you during your paid session with her. Sorry to bust your bubble love but you never should have assumed you had it like that with her anyway.

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Intentional or not it was still a blunder. When one knocks over a glass of wine at the dinner table it may not have been intentional but it's still a faux pas.

Oh yes luv I understand it just dont agree with it. Maybe you just didn't understand until now that besides your PAID playtime with her, she's just not that in to yo

Hopefully this will put an end to thread. Unless balls wants to apologize to you.

Hahahaha!