"Many are shocked by the weird Church "Hooker fair" and comments being made about is it legal to bribe escorts to go to the Bethany Home Road Church vs being arrested" ???

Things are getting tight out there, With as many dummys stalking bp everyday looking for the new girl and specials, and with the way it is for providers and them not making what they used to.. they may become more lax in the screening process and or let their guard down in order to pay bills.. Its good to know info. Because I wouldnt of other wise.

Phoenix PD now ARRESTING and BOOKING INTO JAIL for "Escorting Without A License"
Or not having your Phoenix Escort License number on any ads.

In the past one could often plea bargain a prostitution charge to escorting without a license.  Or it was just a "ticket" with no arrest and booking.  There appears to be new tactic of police and a updated Escort licensing law.

It seems that Phoenix PD is now chasing both outcall and incall ads and booking into jail for the license violations.

On  Friday  9/23 an escort was arrested at her incall (home). She went from Phoenix home to some jail in Buckeye? on 99th Ave, then to a jail downtown and then to 4th Ave jail for mug shots and booking.  She read from her charge ticket to me it was escorting without a license and it showed  section 10.92 Phoenix code violation. The police also told her that her ad did not include her Phoenix escort license number in the ad as required!

She has never been arrested before and is a long-time quite well known escort/massage person. She went before a judge the next day and was released from jail on Saturday 9/23/11

I looked up section 10.92:
Sec. 10-92. Escorts, unlawful to work as.
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to work or perform services as an escort within the City of Phoenix unless that person possesses a valid identification card issued pursuant to Section 10-89.1 in the name of the escort and the escort bureau.

Sec 10-94 requires all ads to include the escort bureau license number.

The latest licensing law has different provisions for "service" escorts and bureaus and "sexually orientated" escorts and bureaus.

I will have an extensive review in the next Private Lists tonight.

Many are shocked by the weird Church "Hooker fair" and comments being made about is it legal to bribe escorts to go to the Bethany Home Road Church vs being arrested.

The Phoenix Temple felony 2nd Indictments is also a mess now 39 indicted and those arrested on the initial indictment are being again arrested with double bail on the 2nd indictment.  Some self-surrenders via one lawyer and a friendly judge are getting the 2nd arrest warrants squashed when appear for prelim on 1st.  But many are also being arrested again at their homes in front of children etc.

2nd indictment also charges as Criminal Syndicate (like for mafia) not just Enterprise. Founder bail now $1 million, which is higher than the Friday murder, armed robbery, multiple sexual assaults on children person.  His bail only $575,000.

OK... I did long story warning Thur direct from gal at my other place and assumed most folks then read the media reports.

Short version:  Police have huge pile of ads in patrol cars and answering ads and busting Thur and Friday. They had booths set up for food, clothing, medical. detox etc.  The gal was well known indie doing outcall to a hotel in Phoenix.

She thought something wasn't  right at hotel and never went to the room.  But hotel had her on security camera and marked police units stopped her as she left hotel parking lot.

Choice was what I called "hooker fair" or jail.  She went but then declined their "services"  They even gave her a purse with a flower on it and another packaged "gift".   She left it as she left outside the Church.   She walked 2 miles in 100+ heat- no phone left it with her driver when arrested...or given choice to go to jail or Church.   She finds another Church and they give her water and phone so calls driver who smartly returned to her home not knowing where she was being taken.

VERY Weird.   Not street hookers but indie ads outcalls

Then after the operation ended the media picked it up:
9/24/11 UPDATE “PROJECT ROSE” – But she didn’t have to complete a “diversion program”:

PHOENIX - Phoenix police and Arizona State University have partnered to give prostitutes in Phoenix an alternative to arrest.

Through a pilot program called Project Rose, Phoenix officers who arrested prostitutes on Thursday and Friday took them to Bethany Bible Church in central Phoenix, where the women were offered an
arrest alternative.

The adult prostitutes who met the guidelines, and had no more than four prostitution arrests, were given on-site access to social services, including food, shelter, clothing, health care and detox.

Through this program, the prostitutes aren't sent to jail or prosecuted. If they complete the diversion program, which can take up to six months, they avoid the arrest on their record.

As of Friday afternoon, about 40 women had signed up for the program, scheduled to last through Friday night.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/09/24/20110924phoenix-police-asu-offer-option-deter-prostitution.html#ixzz1YrpO2bHr

you might consider dropping the "BP GALS" moniker as it has a negative innuendo. (Not unlike the word "whore." ) Except "BP gals" isn't even accurate in how it implies unreviewed gals that aren't on boards. Loads of reviewed gals are on BP, including better known ones like Jordon, Anna, Marilyn, Selena, etc. etc. A buzz kill - to you or anyone - is a bit less important that safety to men and women. You surely know that men are are a greater risk when women are, and vice versa. Everything written in this post is done so with respect toward you and all other providers. Please don't take the directness any other way, since you are appreciated here.

I hope not. It sure sounds that way. Is the traveling business your bread and butter? Some providers are working with locals exclusively. With all due respect, if your BIGGEST worry is spooking off potential wealthy out of town businessmen, then maybe you should rethink what your saying. This is an important PHOENIX issue. Not everyone reads all the boards. Any man who reads the Phoenix board needs to know this stuff.The provider ads are now off this board. No buzzkill there. There has been some posts here linked to other boards but either way is fine.

first why is this not on the legal board  with a note here to go see it?  these things are always  a buzz kill for the boards  and business  and tend to be here today gone tomorow type of " stings"If you want to kill any conversation here this is how  to do it

I understand by why not not use the legal board for this info and a post here to stop bye there and read it or provider board as it is not affecting the clients as much as BP  gals and street girls and young coeds  who are inexperienced beginners?

It only applies to Phoenix area.  Yes it hurts business but as you know I am more about honest info and keep gals from jail and huge legal fees.

The busts I know about are not street hookers but experienced folks - at least one has reviews here they are not just dumb and is long time experienced.  

I do not have access to provider boards, have direct access to about 350 gals via List which I have sent 4 warning alerts to this week mostly last few days related to tempe, the Church hooker busts and now first time ever for appears to be new licensing rules which am also doing very detailed review of.

I felt the seriousness of the situation and something totally new more should at least be aware of.

I respect the other "feel good only and no bad news" Phoenix boards and if TER doesn't want this info I will not bother here

Guys should be upset with what is happening, gals take 99.9% of the risks and guys wonder why such extensive screening is required in Phoenix - these actions are exactly why

Dave I know your heart is in the right place and I know  you and all you do to keep the girls safe and we the girls  do need to  be  informed  but I believe the legal  board or giving it to a provider to post might be better as you said it is 99% a womans problem and just worrie the guys  who really are not affected other than to scare them  away from our boards and businesss  ........

Maybe some rich guys will see how terrible escorts are being treated.  Many of the current cases could be the basis or a direct constitutional attack not based on religion but Lawrence vs Texas which cries out for use in a in private adult case as many attorneys have noted as in the D.C. Madam case.

The problem is legal fees would be huge especially if as expected may lose in Maricopa Superior Court, maybe a chance at the 9th Circuit and possible a Supreme Court case.  

I am in contact with a Tantra large group founder who is well known teacher etc and she got legal support from someone knowing the issues, and had the ability to fight with finances.  It  was only a zoning issue for Tantra home used for teaching but there are wealthy guys out there that might be able to financially help a direct challange.

We have a different Supreme Court and it was a divided decision and we have lost Sandra OConnnor and have new conservative Bush appts.  But it could  be a legitimate fight that would benefit everyone to have the same personal freedoms related to private adults that most of the world enjoys except the U.S.

End of Sermon... passing the offering plate

Imagine this guys steps off plane in Az  to have some relaxing  golf and maybe a little company tonight  and decides to visit TER  boards  to shop.... guess what?  No girls are going to dinner or anywhere  now..... he has decided on pay per view  alone in his room and it would not of been an issue  for him just  the thought was unsettling that AZ is such a risky place to meet ladies  and I do not believe that to be true if the gal are on their toes ....shit happens yes I KNOW that  but chances are slim if both parties are careful

pass it my way I too would  like to help just saying we cannot change this overnight  and for now we need to keep these boards up and running and sharing and after one of these  threads  everyone just runs away  .......but keep up the good work  you do i still feel it should  be on the provider board or linked to  legal board

With all the violent crime here everyday, with all the idiots driving drunk, you'd think PD would worry more about that than some consensual sex between adults.  Talk about misplaced values!

your right I am sorry to have sounded  like BP  was a negative  I just meant  BP  tends to be a little bolder in what they say in their ads and seem to have more complaints by clients .....mixed into that we have some wonderful gals some you have already mentioned .....as one poster stated awhile back they  do have some "diamonds in the rough" and some great deals and many get alot of traffic from that site ....the  half that are well reviewed here  I  have no concerns with  the other half with the  more blantant in your face ads  do worry me along with the very young girls that are there......so  do you think by Dave posting  LE threads here on PHX board helps or hurts our business?  Gentlemen when you read it does it give you any concerns about seeing us ? How  many of us have this escort  permit I checked into it with my lawyer years ago and he advised against it  said it would just put  you  on LE Radar so did not even try to get one  .....would be curious to know  just who has one here  maybe by pm or post my guess is not many if any.......

-- Modified on 9/25/2011 10:40:05 AM

Not at all just think it  is more about providers  and their safety  issues in regards to  getting  one of these permits and the tatics LE is using now I believe  the womens forum or Legal forum  is the place to have this info IMHO  I guess we will have to wait and see just how much this affects local  posting and business here

She never said to HIDE it . She simply said to post this on the legal board.
It is called the LEGAL board for a reason.

Maybe the blank alias needs to take a moment , breath and re read her post. You obviously misunderstood Victoria.

thank you my little Barbie rock star  that is just what I was trying to state.....My writing lacks a lot to be desired  not my best feature for sure LOL but I keep on trying thanks for your support  your my girl crush  you wild child.......

By the time the warnings hit the boards, the busts are over and it is too late for us to do anything. This news makes it seem like hundreds of providers were  brought in and arrested. Actually it seems one was arrested? I only advertise on BP now since  readers on this board are consistently reminded of busts and arrests. OOPS, I meant warned for their own safety. Legal board seems the proper place for posting codes and statutes of the law.

While escorts report lots of creeps from BP ads, they also report getting good clients just have to be screen and LE knows all the screening tricks and can overcome the best.

Sadly this is not Sheriff Joe's posse which was easy to identify since they acted like creeps.  We now have highy trained professionals in their war against in private consenting adult sensuality wasting so much of tight LE funds to go after what is legal in almost all the world except the U.S.

In one way the risk here as great or greater..but can't discuss.

BTW I am getting lots of Private Messages - I am not  VIP member and I don't think people sending private mail can tell that reader can't read if not VIP.  I try and post important info but for some obvious reasons some know, I am not active here otherwise and have in the past  restricted "hobbying" to Canada without the legal issues.

I try and be careful not trying to suggest any other sources than TER (not sure allowed) but most anyone here that has been around awhile knows how to reach me directly.

I'm wondering if the lady who was arrested at home, booked, released, and called u with the info on charge of ad posted with no license # on the ad....was she arrested during a visit?  Or was she tracked down via identifying info from placing the ad alone?

LOL!