Back in the days of Chrissie and Sky the board was pretty much self moderated. I mean that we knew each other and were not just a name. Because of that people were more careful in how they responded to each other because one day you would be looking that person in the face. I think the parties should help. It is not the content of most responses that bother people it is the perceived tone.
Really we know we all love each other. After all we are family.
People are only bullied off the board if they allow themselves to be.....unkown author.
Taylor Lynn said it best in the below thread...the board use to carry great information...like.
a mini review on a new provider in town....
a community happening regardless of who or whom was involved....
questions concerning provider locations (i.e. what part of valley...east west central north etc..) those in the area being asked about would respond or those that would freely travel to that area would respond....
Yes even debates about rates appeared long ago more than once and the debate was lively but never mean spirited....
Then several ladies began complaining of schilling by many of the "Hobbyist" because it seem to only relate to agencies like mine or Paul's or Taylor's..and yes in some cases independents ...so the guys who were seeing the ladies stoped posting rather than continually fight to get solid information out to the community without being attacked for their efforts....many left and departed to the other board to post....
I can't and won't say what constitutes drivel as I am sure I am guilty of posting some "drivel" myself along the way...but most of the hobbyist don't post on this board they lurk......
look at the board five years ago and four years ago and you will see the difference....
Now on the board a Provider...whether indy or agency puts up a ad and it can be overwhelmed by a long thread where constant disagreement takes place on who is flaming on who...
Providers post as a part of their "marketing" effort no matter what the subject....
Hobbyist post to be known to the providers and make it easier to get screened in many cases...
Hobbyist with mutiple reviews that see a lot of Providers are marketing targets for all providers..they are also a source of good information for the lukers who will backchannel them to get info on Providers they are intersted in.....
I say this from experience when I was a active Hobbyist on this board and at that time had many reviews and received numerous request for intel on ladies ...
So what does all this mean in the big picture....
Well I honestly don't know...other than to say that the board was always a informative place to learn about who was available, who was new, who was great and who was bad...
Forgive me for this saying I use now quite a lot and Victoria used in one of her post below.....
LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF....this is a great community and it is not hard to all get along...will it be a perfect community...not hardly...will we all be friends, no...but can we agree to respect anyone's point of view and if we choose to debate it do so in a non flaming way by just making a point and not making it personal....or taking it personal....
I hope this post made some sense and many of the "Hobbyist" and "Providers" return to those days of yesteryear and make this the here and now again and the Board comes back to what it use to be....and Taylor was right it was fun even though we did not always agree with one another....
My thanks for your consideration of my words...
Jack
Edited For Spelling Errors
-- Modified on 7/26/2007 12:46:09 AM
-- Modified on 7/26/2007 1:03:34 AM
It would be nice to be able to voice opinions without someone belittling another person, especially when you're just kidding or flirting with an old friend. It used to fun to do that here, along with posting valuable information and even jokes. We can all have fun, and not everything has to be a marketing tool. I know sometimes I respond to a post to thank someone (not for marketing purposes, but to be polite). Now an ad (which I haven't posted in a while) is marketing and that's a good thing -- like you stated.
It's nice to hear someone from a respectable agency make comments for providers and hobbyists, and hopefully this board will be fun again. I'm trying to not sweat the small stuff anymore. But please remember we're all human beings and sometimes if we've had a bad day we're more sensitive than other times. Let's all try to be more patient.
Hugs,
Ciara
Back in the days of Chrissie and Sky the board was pretty much self moderated. I mean that we knew each other and were not just a name. Because of that people were more careful in how they responded to each other because one day you would be looking that person in the face. I think the parties should help. It is not the content of most responses that bother people it is the perceived tone.
Really we know we all love each other. After all we are family.
I agree with everything you've said. However, please keep in mind that some of us cannot attend parties because of hectic work schedules (other work) and prior commitments. It also might be because we want to keep our identities somewhat under the radar. If anyone is offended that I don't attend parties lately, please remember that some of us may have high-profile jobs or want to maintain a certain amount of anonymity. It has nothing to do with not wanting to meet everyone in the community. If I didn't have to worry about my other activities in the community then I would not blur my face in my pictures and probably show up at more parties. I'd love to meet more people in the business.
Peace & hugs,
Ciara
and help keep standards high by taking the high road. As a newbie around here I have been afraid to post for fear of getting caught in a flame or somehow being viewed negatively. I don't like seeing posts that attack or posts that are defensive.
I also don't mind seeing hobbyists post about experiences with providers, as long as they are not mean. Personally I like to know what men like and don't like, as it can only help make me a better provider. For those who say it's shameless shilling, remember "shill" refers to a person posing as a satisfied customer in order to dupe another customer into a swindle. That is NOT the same as a truly satisfied customer telling about a great experience. As a "marketeer" I know that customer testimonials are one of the most commonly used and persuasive tools around, and providers should be allowed to benefit from them. We are in business, after all.
Forums like this have a life and go in cycles. I engage in this hobby in Phoenix, Las Vegas and Manchester (England) - and mostly post on an English board. The situation with respect to LE is so diffeent in England that the discussions on that forum are far more open and direct.
More Meet and Greets in Phoenix could help.
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