Put this at the top because I wanted to make sure you did not miss it. It’s all what you consider valve, Hack, you obviously think the world revolves around you so only what you think is of “value” belongs, and that might be true but first somebody better rename this board to “The Azhacker Board”. Till then I’ll post what I think is of value. Mini reviews are definitely not in that realm, their nothing but shilling, no two ways about it. It does not take a week to get a review posted and who cares if it does, only the agency. The "mini review" is simply an ad telling people there is a new girl at XXX, that is a lot of really useful information. I'll defiantly make a decision on that info. Now let’s talk about mouth pieces, whose mouth piece are you? Looks like you’re working pretty hard to get into Shilling Club; we have a name for that at work it’s called a “suck up”. And yes I’m in town, want get a couple brewski?

I've posted my opinion in the past regarding social and "fluff" threads, about which some members have complained.  My conclusion was, "Don't read it if you don't like it, but don't bitch about it, either."  The same goes for any alleged shilling.  If you don't like it, just don't read it.

And actually, you might find that shill posts are useful to you in evaluating a member's actual reviews.  When you want to know how much weight to give a review, don't just look at the reviewer's other reviews...search the Phoenix board for his posts to get another perspective on his proclivities.

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I, for one, find the "mini reviews" (or whatever one might wish to call them) exceedingly helpful. Are they ads or shills?  - sure - maybe - I dunno - I don't really care to be quite honest. All I know is that it is helpful to me to see a post go up on our discussion board identifying a new gal on the scene whether it be a lady who works for an agency or a new independent gal. I don't know about other people here but I sure am not going to Phoenix411 or individual agency web sites on a regular basis to see if anyone new is there. Hell, I can't even remember who all was there the last time I looked at one of those sites with all the talent around, the arrivals and departures and name changes.  If a lady puts a post up announcing her arrival or one of the guys does so, that is just fine by me 'cause it is providing me with some fast information about a new face in the crowd and I didn't have to do any Internet or web searching to find out. Not going to spend a bunch of time either checking out the "new reviews" on a regular basis to see if a new name pops up. Much easier for me if one of the guys or gals "points" to a new talent - then I can elect to do my homework further if I want.

The "mini review" is just another way of keeping us abreast of new & improved companions (indy & agency). It is a form of acknowledgement. A way to give praise and thanks. Might take all of 3 seconds to read it and store that info in the memory banks for further consideration. IMO, they are quite useful. A little shill here. A little shill there. So what!

anti shill.

where it started:http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=39708&boardID=5&page=2

Hackers response to the original thread brought out special reporter....but just like a reporter to get the facts wrong or spin in a way other than what was said.  The info on mini reviews are helpful and hopefully will continue on.  Shoot to Shill...or was that Thrill, I forget how that AC/DC song goes

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The problem isn't the schilling, it is the fact that the schills are a product of a lower rate than any of the rest of us non-schillers get.  If you aren't part of some little group that writes these reviews/schills, you don't get the discounted rate.  If you'll notice, it's the same people writing the same stuff over and over.  Get's boring if you ask me.  But then, I choose not to read it and not to base my choices on someone who pays half of what the going rate is because even if they had a bad time, they are still going to schill because that is what their game is all about.

as it was about the gals not posting and the absence of the few that don't

hacker wrote
 "I'm all for any of the gals posting....or not posting...but your talking about a very small subset who's absence is largely unnoticed by all but a few....which is why they sent a couple of mouthpieces in to beg em back....got to save face after all....."

I think that's the purpose of reporters report

You and the others that have a response to this post about shilling is understandable because your the ones that do it all the time...just gettin the word out!!!!

and cerainly dont contribute as much as many others...

I do however add some reasonable value, go back and look at any gal I've given "props" to....lets start with the recently departed Isabella. I was one of the 1st (not the 1st) to talk her up. The one time she actually had to run a special I called her and then made sure she never had to do that again....and she never did.

Match my comments/review vs the norm and you'll find I'm a harder grader (even with my ATF's) then most...you wont find a single instance where I've recommended anyone who went on to get less then excellent reviews overall.

You comment about "value" but you add nothing but your opinion...which given your lack of reviews I find marginally credible at best. As for agency vs indie....I'm even handed about both. The simple reality is that you have many more new agency gals then indies so you have more mini's on agency gals.

All three of my ATF's are indie....but you never see me pushing them repeatedly. In fact you never see me repeat a "mini"....I simply a quick "after action" report out then follow up with a review later.

For some reason you seem to need to cast me as some kind of agency shill. In reality I spend 75% of my time and money with the indies. I've seen both MJ and Rebecca more in the last 18 months then I've seen agency gals ever.

I appreciate the 411 others provide and simply try and offer similiar info in return when I can...why do you have a problem with that?

Find a single review of mine that is an exageration or isnt supported by numerous other reviews. As for price...the truth is simple...all indies and agencies have "VIP" rate structures for regulars and repeat clients. The discounts no where near what you think and not everyone gets it (including me)....

I used to take clients out to a very well known restuarant here about twice a week....average bill was maybe $1200 or so. Well only took about a month and the chef was coming out and taking special orders (nationally known) and offering special tastes of new recipes desserts etc. A bottle of wine would come out of nowhere (chef says this is perfect with the lamb)...all in all I got about $150 of "freebee's" [plus alot of prestige with clients] per visit....just business...but then I was spending 10K a month there.

Business is business and good business makes sense. If you want to go back and actually look at my reviews you'll find my lowest review is actually my 1st AZM review (and she was a porn starlet to boot)....some shill job...

information.  Read it, agree, disagree or ignore - your choice.  For me the information is informative, a basis from which I go forward or not.  Without the minis, the shills or whatever one wishes to call them I would be like Muffyman and the well know mushroom - kept in the dark.  My time is precious and these postings help me save some of that time for other pursuits.  Thanks to those who provide me with the "news" and for those who take offense, assess a fifteen yard penatly then get over it.

I don't shill for any lady...I never receive discounts - and would never accept them for review of mini review and more often than not, I tip.  If I boast about a lady, it is because I want to.  Be a man...or a woman and not use an Alias if you have something to say to me.