I'm sorry to have to vent my frustrations, but bear with me for a moment if you will. When I first started in the business on my own, I made a point of seeking out the ladies and planning get togethers so I could know them better and find out for myself what they were like. At that time, we all were very friendly with each other and I didn't hear any back-stabbing or nasty comments from each other. Now that I have a very busy "other life" and don't have the time to go out all the time and meet the many new ladies out there, it seems my name keeps coming up in peoples conversations. I've been hearing from gentleman that so and so said this or that about me, when they've never met me and making up things that can't possibly be true. Why are you girls talking about things like that in a meeting with a gentleman anyway??? Aren't you doing other things to occupy your time? I feel sorry for the guys if that's all you're doing is gossiping and not getting busy with them.

I've not really cared too much up until this point, because the inaccuracies where so out there that it didn't matter. Did you hear that Jordan and I were working for the FBI last year??? That one was pretty funny Sky Silverman actaully called and asked me if that was true.

The reason I'm venting now is I had a black gentleman who got a hold of me who has wanted to see me for over a year, but was told by another lady (who I won't name) that I don't see black men. Now, I've never met this lady, nor has that conversation ever come up when I've spoken to her. Her comment to him was that I was too classy and don't see black men. That really hurt my feelings and those who have met me would understand why. I've never judged anyone by the color of their skin, their age, weight, or religious preference. I try not to judge people period and it really bothered me that this lady would say such a thing about me.

My comment to everyone out there, is please don't talk about others (unless it's a compliment) especially when you've never met them and don't know what you're talking about. If you want to know something about someone, just call them up for yourself don't listen to gossip and rumors.

This is why I do not post on this board, I keep a low profile as I don't want to be the center of gossip in this town!

You are right, at one time, we had a great group of ladies here, what happened?  

I have been the business for awhile and have NEVER heard anything but wonderful things about you! I can't believe that people would stoop to this level, is business that slow for them? What a shame!
They could NEVER ruin your great reputation in Phoenix!
You are a class act, Doll and they are not!



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Debbie, I agree whole-heartedly with what you said.  Even though I have never met you, you have always been at the top my list of fantastic providers.  We have had our exchanges about warnings and whatnot, and you have always been a class act and someone I can trust.  I know how horrible rumors can be and I've heard my share about myself and my company from clients as well as on this board.  Jealousy runs deep unfortunately and it seems like there are too many people that are just out for themselves.  Many people don't like to see others succeed so they start rumors to make themselves look better.  Everyone knows that you are one of the best providers in the valley and I'm sure that whomever is starting these rumors will stop after you've called them out on it, which was the right thing to do.  Don't let it affect you because you are an awesome lady and don't need to worry about petty things like this.  The people that know you or (like me) know your reputation know that you are a wonderful provider that isn't about all the drama and whatnot.  You are great at what you do and no one can change that.  That is what pisses them off so take it as a compliment and know that people love you for who you are and aren't going to listen to any crap.  You've proven yourself as a provider and as a person to everyone time and time again.  That is all you need!

Those of us that know you, know you are a class act. I moved here 3 years ago this January. You were the first Provider I saw and I continue to see you to this day. Hmmm, I wonder why that is? Believe me, it is not just for the sex. If anyone reading this feels the need to inquire about Debbie, contact me. I would be glad to set you straight.

I haven't seen you in quite awhile, but always enjoyed you and our time together.  I haven't really thought about you in ages, either, until a relatively new provider brought your name up last week, telling me "What a nice, friendly lady Little Debbie is.  She replies to my emails quickly, and always provides me with honest information when I ask."  I told her that you're a lot of fun, too!  Anyway, my point is that there are plenty of people here that think and speak of you in a very good light, and don't let anyone's petty jealousies or negativity dampen your day.
Oh, yes, just one question:  Have you and Jordan finally stopped working for the F.B.I. now (LOL)?!

I hear you Debbie, I have had the same experience here also and have heard from other ladies and clients what has been said about me. I guess some people think it will bring them more business if they spread crap about others. To me it just says they are despirate. Take care, maybe someday we can meet for coffee.

xoxo
Carla

Debbie, I have been in the hobby for a long time and never had anyone say anything but good things about you.  I had the please of meeting you once at a Christmas Party and found you to be a exptremely nice individual.  There is for some reason h been a rash of one or two provider's putting down another provider and spreading gossip that for those that know the individuals involved know is not true.  My guess is there is a tremendous jealously and the need for some to want to be in the "A" Group and included in the so called club.  Like the prior poster don't be concerned because those that really know you have nothing but respect for you.

I've never had the pleasure of spending time with you, and only occasionally dabble in the hobby.  Anyhow, there are plenty of reviews that I can read to determine what a lady offers and determine whether or not I'm going to have a good time.  There is also that old fashioned thing called a telephone, I have had the pleasure of meeting a provider for a quick lunch, to get to know them, or spending some time on the phone prior to a get together.  


People will be people, whether in this business, or a fortune 500 company, there are always people looking to cut someone down, or try and gain an edge by pushing buttons or making false statements.  Personally, these kind of people don't work for me, won't work for me and in the long term, usually are exposed for what they truly are.  If a person is comfident in their abilities and services offered, these kinds of things won't usually happen.

When I first hit the Arizona scene, I was coming from Denver, where everyone really does "just get along."  I had a lot of friends in the biz, and we had parties, etc.  I thought Arizona would be the same way.  A good gentleman friend of mine in the business here let me know that I was naive...Arizona was not friendly, and my attempts at befriending other girls would most likely backfire.  He was pretty much right.  It's a shame, but it's the way it is.  
I have only heard good things about you, if it makes you feel any better, but for those out there that like to gossip, stir the pot and make up rumors, your plea will go unheard.
I know it is hard when you feel like those rumors are costing you business, but in actuality they probably aren't hurting you much.  Try to see them as funny...that's the approach I've decided to take.  There ARE great girls here and friendships CAN be made.  You just have to be careful, I guess.

I was one of the first to see Debbie when she moved back to Phoenix an actually some time before that when she was just visiting.  She is first and foremost a sweet lady with a wonderful personality.  She is kind and has a big heart.  She is always interested in you as a person not just as a client.  She provides incredible service while always being upbeat.  Just because she chooses to have a private personal life outside of this business does not make her any less spectacular.  In no way is she judgemental or mean.  As in any case, find out for yourself before you believe unsubstantiated rumors.

Please treat her well as she would always do the same for you

P.S.  I have even heard she has a real affinity for purple people...

I really don't care what is being said about me, as I'm confident with myself and have made many wonderful friends over the years. The only issue I have is that this time it concerned another individual and I really have a problem with that. I can't believe in this day and age that race is still and issue. I feel lucky that I was not exposed to that kind of negativity as a child and can look at people who they are and not for any other reason.

You are definitely the kindest lady I have had the pleasure of communicating with. As with others, I've only heard WONDERFUL things about you and I only have OUTSTANDING things to say. I know that you are genuine and take pride in keeping everything down to earth and real, and I really appreciate that.

...I like you!!  

I've seen the Denver scene and you are absloutely right.  They are friendly and support each other.  I can't wait to be back there (although I'm glad I'm not there now!) and will as soon as I get my management issues worked out.  There are many great ladies here in Phoenix, but you are right, you have to be careful in who you trust and befriend.  Things like this are common in Phoenix, unfortunately...I learned that the hard way.  I, however, back the girls who back me, and there are many.  Debbie has been nothing but nice and professional from the start, as have many of the other independents here in town.  I think that there is more good here than bad and the bad usually works it's way into the ground all by itself, or with a little help from Danny! (Just kidding Danny, sweetheart!  Hoewever, you seem to have missed a couple of bad seeds!  Slacking, are we??)

Debbie it will always happen.  I am glad that you don't discriminate as I am a black man and had wanted to see you for many years, but this one escort was adamant about which escorts that do not see black men.  She named 2 more besides you.  I wish that I would have given you the opportunity to turn me down instead of listening to someone else.  I have met some that do discriminate and I have heard some helluva excuses like "I do not know what I did with the condoms"  I could really tell you who that person was but what will it accomplish.  I just say their loss.  I do not understand what lying about someone will accomplish.

Debbie, if it's any consolation, although I have never met you, I have heard nothing but great things about you.  I would venture to guess that the correct information out there outweighs the misinformation.  Unfortunately, it seems like this happens in any professional that involves personal services and word-of-mouth referrals.

Debbie,

Why do you feel the need to start a thread about every six months that makes yourself the focal point of others sympothy/adjulation? For those of us who have been here for years, it does get old.

Are we speaking of the same Debbie who for sometime has  been  a friend and aid to so many of the ladies and a real pleasure for so many of the gents?  The one who  has  been such an active and postive  member  of our  little  community?   Now she only  sees purple FBI agents but not if  they are  wearing black??   I am so confused.

Your name certainly comes up once in awhile...always in a positive way. I can'tthink of a single negative thing I've ever heard about you....

Yes TL there are many unexposed bad seeds. But alas i've been worn out lately and it seems people get very upset when BS is exposed so I'm laying low until the ripoffs get out of control (and they will) I think i just need some tlc

I have also heard things about myself. I have let it go too and believe that if a girl feels the need to hurt others she just wants to make other hurt to make herself feel better. I have ignored things so far but am glad someone mentioned it so the people will know that when they hear something, instead of believing it and helping to perpetuate the rumors, call the lady in question. Remember everyone that some ladies consider this some sort of competition. They do not realize that variety is the spice of life and not everyone is going to want to see them only. Now that said doesn't it make sense that a lady feeling that way would make up anything for this reason? Just trust your judgement and play nice and safe. Sorry so long winded.
  On a happier note the new job is going very well and thanks for all the people who wished me well. I hope it is ok for me to say hello once in a while and make a comment or two. I am also keeping my cell phone so if anyone needs a reference they will be able to contact me for it. Have a great week everyone

although I have only partaken of the hobby on one occassion (it was not pleasant), I do peak in on this board on-and-off for the last year or so, and I noticed that Debbie has fallen off the face of the earth since I first started.  (It seems like Mya is the new Debbie as far as this board goes, although that's just the casual observer's opinion.)

In my experience, as a matter of the feminine nature (an element of which exists in us guys too), you can't hold it against a woman just 'cause she needs to know she is still love . . . assuming, of course, that is the reason for Debbie's recent post.

thanks moneky_man. Wasn't sure where coyote got his info as I haven't posted much of anything in quite awhile since I've been really busy with other things. I also saw that several other ladies are keeping the board quite busy with their advice, good natured comments and such.

I wasn't posting my comment to "feel the need to be loved" as I already know that from all the wonderful regulars I have out there and all the people I've met in the last several years. It was more to try to get some of the ladies to know that back stabbing and nasty comments does nothing for their self image and if we spread upbeat positive energy, we will get that in return.

Debbie,

I have met you before, and I can vouch that you are in no way racially biased of your clientelle, nor do you turn up your nose to any potential clients. Whomever made this comment was extremely wrong in that statement, and if you ever need to dispell that, just throw my name back at them. If you dont remember me from all of those get togethers before, PM me and I will refresh your memory .

AdonisAZ

I hear ya.

My only point to the original poster was that EVEN IF a woman (or a man, for that matter) does want some attention every once in a while, so what - you don't have to berate her (him) for it.  That's all.