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...cause I really didn't get it.

Stunning bit of wordsmithery-and more fun to wade through than the original post.

Kudos

JJ

-- Modified on 1/17/2006 7:40:42 PM

Reading through the recent thread here about what we want most from our service providers; top 10 lists— gets me thinking about how my tastes have changed over the years.  Like many men I’ve read a number of books by now about developing healthier and more fulfilling relationships as well as learned methods to achieve prolonged lovemaking and the art of extending my orgasm.  My expanded knowledge and experience from what I’ve learned is literally mind-blowing, but also makes it more and more difficult to find what I want most from the typical service provider.  While I have little interest in seeking out the extra woo woo provided by the relatively rare Tantric sex practitioner, a good deal can be learned from the Kama Sutra and some of the more advanced Tantric techniques that have already found their way into millions of bedrooms across America.  Many couples in long standing relationships still have satisfying sex only because they have experimented and perfected these very techniques.

For the more innovative and adaptive service provider out there who might be reading this, I’d like to suggest there’s a market for a particular type of service that is currently under represented; actually it’s not represented at all.  If you’re looking for a new angle or advantage to attract new clientele or at least secure a few more reliable repeats, I’d like to define a market segment that can improve your bottom line.  If you’re a runway model who’s so busy giving great GFE you can’t see straight, I don’t expect you to have either the time or motivation to take on anything new.  But if you’re not to proud to learn something new, have an open mind, and are motivated to learn a few new tricks, mastering my suggestion will ultimately make you a lot of money and put you in contact with many intelligent and distinguished gentlemen who will literally beat down your door to get your time and attention.  Please read on.

The service providers who specialize in nude massage are probably coming closest to offering the service I’m suggesting.  But they generally miss the mark completely, and even if they hit the bull’s-eye head-on they only comprise less than 10% of the service providers reviewed on TER.  So already you see what I mean about this area being under represented in terms of how few providers I have to choose from.  So lets cut to the chase, what am I really talking about?  I will admit I am spoiled having had women in my life who were advanced in their knowledge of male anatomy including my penis and all its associated nerve systems.  What you want to learn how to do is take over a man’s nervous system and control his orgasm.  This is in fact the same topic written about in so many books for couples over the past 10 to 15 years.  See reading list below.

So here it is in a nutshell; not necessarily how to do it, but what needs to be done.  With your hands and some very good lubricant you are going to take total control over the man’s nervous system and by this I mean you are also going to be totally responsible for when he goes over the top and shoots his load.  Part of this idea is exactly the opposite of making him cum as quickly as you can which seems to be what all current day nude massage specialists pretty much do once the traditional portion of the massage is completed. Ideally you want to take him up to and close to the point of Cumming and back down again for better than a half hour before taking him over the top to the point of no return.  Read that again and let that idea really soak into your brain.  The more times up and down the better, and the more his body will eventually involuntarily spasm, and the more intense his eventual orgasm and release will be.  When done correctly a healthy man will experience your technique and one prolonged and extended orgasm.  See reading list below.

There are specific techniques used to accomplish this and there are specific signs you must learn to read to prevent the man from going over the edge too soon.  Couples in relationships use these techniques on each other by taking turns being the one being pleasured and being the one providing the pleasuring.  I have to admit that it’s great being the one pleasuring my partner, but most of the time if I’m going to pay for sex I want to be the one with the luxury of laying back and having it done to me.  In the past I’ve enjoyed a long-term relationship with a provider who gradually learned these techniques at my insistence, but generally it’s very difficult to find service providers with this kind of advanced knowledge and technique or anyone motivated to learn it for that matter.  But why should your customer pay for your time to learn something that is ultimately in your best interest to be an expert in the first place?.

I currently look for nude massage providers who know something about therapeutic massage only because I have never met a provider who can do what I’ve suggested you learn how to do.  If there were nude massage providers who already knew how to do this it wouldn’t make much difference to me if you had any credentials or background as a certified masseuse. Given you’re going to stroke me off relatively quickly towards the end of my massage (and not give me the extended pleasure that would be relatively easy for you to do if you knew how) then at least giving me some traditional massage helps make the entire transaction more relaxing and worthwhile. Did you hear I’m not getting what I really want?  If not, please go back and start again at the very beginning.

Massage providers do a lot of things really well especially those who freely allow their clients to touch their bodies; I know breasts and nipples are a huge turn on for me and being able to touch adds to my pleasure.  In fact, having your breasts right there as you finally take me over the top is great. Wearing sexy clothes and being attractive still all count.  Having a warm inviting setting if you’re incall is very important.  A massage table is recommended for incall but there are specific body positions that work wonderfully well on any bed for outcall offering GFE.  Regardless of how you package it, knowing how to give a man 45 to 50 continuous minutes of intense stimulation focused right between his legs before taking him over the top a final time will help make you a bigger success.

A final word about pricing:  I’m really not a cheapskate, really!  But it bothers me to pay $150 to $200 for a typical HJ even if it does include some good quality therapeutic massage.  Come on, how tough is it to stroke a guy with your hand and lotion until he comes?  No penetration is being requested, and even a BJ.  But add some understanding and accomplish the right mission, or do what no one else seems to know how to do and market forces will support fair pricing.  And I’m surprised to see that kissing is so popular and appreciated by so many TER hobbyists.  I have to agree that I can’t think of anything better (other than perhaps your sexy breasts and nipples and your face or generally your best features) than a hot sexy woman planting a deep passionate kiss right square on my mouth while sending me to the moon with her hand and lotion techniques.  I mention kissing here because I think providers willing to include kissing should be rewarded with an extra premium; just don’t charge for it when it’s not requested or wanted.

Suggested reading: “The Art of Sexual Ecstasy”  and also “ESO”  which stands for Extended Sexual Orgasm.  And two exceptional video training tapes or DVD’s titled “The Venus Butterfly for Men”  and  “The Venus Butterfly for Women” to mention the tip of a really large iceberg of information appropriate to all service providers.  Let me know when you’re ready so I can schedule my appointment!

-- Modified on 1/16/2006 11:27:45 AM

Would love to read your post but just don't have the time to go through two or three pages of fine type.  Would prefer to play with Mya instead.

Translation - a link or links to all this info would suffice.  Sorry Friend!

Thanks for your post .  .  . but no reason for you to be sorry BigBoy . . . the intended audience is the rare but possibly interested service provider . . . and to save my life I can’t imagine why anyone not interested would take the time to comment in the first place.

O.K. Dude  I see where you're coming from . . . but of course I have to respectfully disagree.  Thanks for helping me see the light!

Wow!! probably the longest post I have seen in a while. All just to say I want a provider to do WHAT I WANT!! Good luck if you find the girl of your dreams, send me an invite to the wedding

It kinda looks like Mya was the only one who took the time to read it - or not.  I sure give the fellow cudos for sitting down and writing it all down just to share it with all of us.

Maybe it's because I'm a control freak or maybe I just love hearing and seeing his repsonses when I keep him on the edge of his.... well, you know. Whatever the reason I've always enjoyed testing a man's limits by taking him up to that edge for just a little kiss of ecstasy and then letting him slip back. Most men are amazed at how many times they can 'think they're going to release' without letting go.

You're right, there are many gentlemen who appreciate the 'skills' ;o)

azhacker2900 reads

"provider" here in the valley whos exactly what you describe. She doesnt allow reviews here and was at least semi retired.....but if you can track her down Michelle is 100% what you describe....

I'm surprised this Provider won't allow reviews here.  What does she gain by that?

Fred

I should think that would be obvious.

Some providers eschew publicity-they don't like it, they don't need it and often times it keeps them well out of trouble when the winds of politics blow in a more restrictive and authoritarian direction.

This is a nice resource, don't misunderstand me.

But it's certainly not all there is to the hobby.

Not by a long shot.

JJ

azhacker1950 reads

my understanding is that she has very strong feelings regarding disclosing specifics....not just in a public forum but even on private forums. While it might be partially a desire to be UTR its also a desire to minimize false expectations. My understanding is that shes wonderful (I havent seen her) but also a bit of a fruit loop:) {not ment negatively at all}. She happens to be 100% right on the original posters request. She's very highly recommended if you can get an appointment and are into the above...

Thanks for the illumination.  She doesn't sound like my type, but I have no doubt she is wonderful for those who enjoy the Zen of Hobbying.  She probably has an exclusive clientele, and has no need for the general hobbyists like me.

I learn so much on this board from you people.  I think this is an excellent resource.  Thanks to everyone for all the education I'm receiving at your hands.

Fred

appreciate your posts azhacker . . . sincere thanks . . .

bdl21813 reads

So is ANA who is here once in while under Tantra on Eros-hour and half journey with chanting and all kind of weird shit but beautiful in and out and definitely a healer-she also prefers not to be reveiwed but with that long a post your probably on the same wavelength.A little deep for me-- I think she's from Seattle

azhacker1762 reads

bright and articulate....I'm teasing when I call her a fruitloop. Her orientation is very much as stated....so its not really my cup of tea. But multiple quality sources have told me shes one of those "must do at least once" type of things....BTW my understanding is that thats an accurate picture....

Micro-Willy1580 reads

I just want a provider that will not burst into hysterical laughter when she first sees my micro willy!

Any blind providers out there?

MW

bdl22007 reads

Just put a grand next to it and most will tell you please be gentle :-)

WebTerrorist2451 reads

Basically, you want to be teased, you want a lady to take you to the edge via HJ and pull back at that point when if she keeps doing what she has been doing for just a few more seconds you would have been done. You wish for her to do this repeatedly until you finally lose all control orgasm and shake etc. you want the tension and the build up to the point that release is intensified.

You don't really want someone to control your nervous system, because if you did, I could do that with some well placed electrodes, and not even have to touch your genetalia...I could even control it to the point of convulsions and loss of bladder and bowel control if you were into that...and I could it remotely.

You want what you want and that's fine, all the lead up of how it is an untapped market and a lady could get rich doing what you want her to ect. (which confuses me if you think $1/2 - $$ is too expensive) is just hyperbole.  You don't actually have to convince a lady she will get rich doing what you desire, all you really have to do is say what you're looking for and if a lady does it, can do it, or is willing to try and learn to do it, that's all that is required.  You also don't have to make ladies learn anything at your "insistance".

Now, I am sure you are far more avdanvced in knowledge and technique than any of the ladies and I am sure they should be paying you for the change to learn at the dick of the master for the edification alone, but I doubt fulfilling your specific desire is the key to untold success or wealth for any of the ladies. Especially when you consider that a lot of clients don't have the time to get a massage then be manually teased for 45 - 50 minutes...hard to explain to the boss why that lunch hour ran way over...

Now, I need to find a lady that is understanding to a self-conscious, awkward, unattractive, skittish, nervous, insecure lesbian virgin...but I am not gonna try and convince the ladies it is a vast untapped market that can lead to wealth and success beyond their wildest dreams.  I will freely admit it is probably a very small market...most likely a market of one.

Then when a couple ladies post in the affirmative to your post, you pretty much tell them that they are wrong and can't do it.  Are you hoping they will in an effort to prove you wrong give you a free marathon of penile and testicular teasing to the point that your scrotum explodes?

As to the responses you have received.  Your post carries a sexual pomposity hereforeto unmatched in the threads I have ever seen.  You are absolutely sure none of the ladies can match you and your knowledge, the last line of your post, "Let me know when you’re ready so I can schedule my appointment!"  screams that.  You think you are far more skilled and learned in the ways of sexual pleasure than people for whom giving pleasure is a livelyhood and to some way of life...because, I assume, you have read some books.

I am most pleased that I am not a provider and even if I were would not be inclined to try and do what you seek, because if I were alone in a room with the egotistical, sexual self-inflated personality that wrote your post, I would after five minutes snap and try and beat you with a massage table.

Here is my advice to you, find a lady that you find desirable,and that is willing to learn specifically how to please you (since you are quite sure it is a task that requires specific training) and offer to enter into an exclusive arrangement with you, then for between $500,000 and $1,000,000 have her time devoted to learning your advanced and superior techniques,and then have her at your beck and call for a period of say one year where she will service you and you alone.

If that doesn't work my other suggestion would be to start an "adult" education seminar.  Charge ladies to take your class and over the course of say 12 weeks teach these ladies your techniques, you can even assign your prefered reading list. Set up the place for the classes as you find most conducive, and you can even do the classes one on one, you lie on the massage table you provide and talk them through pleasing you, the final exam to get their "hrdbodman Certificate of endorsement" could be a three hour session of teasing you via HJ for the entirety of the exam period while she wears lingirie and makes her breasts avaiable to you.  Hell, if you're right about your desires being so superior I think you could be the one to make a fortune on that....as you pointed out you shouldn;t be the paying for a lady to learn what will ultimately do her a great service....and you amking money on it is so much better than just getting your HJs for free while she learns.

*the preceeding post is best read with a healthy amount of "smirk"* :)

...cause I really didn't get it.

Stunning bit of wordsmithery-and more fun to wade through than the original post.

Kudos

JJ

-- Modified on 1/17/2006 7:40:42 PM

Nothing short of brilliant.  I'm sure all the members of the community who love words as much as I do will be enamored of your witty and clever use of them.  Nicely written.  You are among those whose name is sufficient to get me to read their posts.  

Thanks for the smile.
Fred

That was hilarious....I enjoyed reading that...you should write a book or something...you are an excellent writer!


I nominate you to be in charge of his nervous system-- remotely, of course.


...and I skipped the middle of what you wrote.  I can't make myself go back and read it again!  Somebody slit my throat if I try.  

I think you must be a spy from the Christian Coalition trying to spread abstinence to TER.  I can't otherwise explain your talent for making a subject like sex so boring and repellent.  

You are so far off base about the skills of some ladies in the business. Last time I saw my ATF, she brought me to a climax that caused me, over a period of 20 minutes, bow all the way back as far as my body could stretch, till I wondered if my head was going to touch my heels, and then slowly bend forward.  I finished, despite my resistance to it, in a fetal position.  

That was just the first "pop" and that was without my having any training.  Try to find *that* in the ESO book.

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