Ladies,  ( I guess the gents could chime in.. )

Is it just me, or is anyone else getting ALLOT of men with no previous refs, or information to verify themselves ? Allot of men are saying they are on "verification sites" yet no ok's , or one.. from yrs ago. 60 percent do not want to give any info. Also hearing allot of guys saying that verified girls arent asking for info..?? ( ladies ? ) This is odd to me because a few yrs back the info was given by spoon, now pulling teeth.

Sign of times, or the "heat is getting hot " ?

No previous refs seems to be getting worse.  Another one I keep hearing is "Gee, I've never done this before.  What do you mean by references?"  I simply will not see anyone who isn't able to provide me with information with which I can verify him.  I think it's unlikely that other verified girls aren't asking for info.  Just my two cents.

I have noticed a number of new reviewers as of late and a number of new names popping up like daily on another discussion board I spend most of my time.  Not really sure what that means or how to take it.  

Just a reminder to you guys out there just because you see a new review on someone does not make them a reputable source.  Since TER offers the free VIP for reviews new guys to see what its about sill sometimes fake or copy them to get access.  I have seen three different times someone copy my review once even word for word exactly to post as his own. Now its great for a provider to be consistent with gentleman callers but word for word really?  If you see this reading reviews two exactly the same be sure to report it. Once it really pissed me off cause I gave the lady nice scored something like 8 looks 9 performance and this guys used my exact words then scored her a 5 - 5 WTF?  The writing didn't match the numbers he scored her even.  That's messed up.

Also be careful who you share information with as of late I have gotten a number of PMs asking questions about someone I seen Or recommendations on who to go visit.  Now if this someone happens to be a well known reviewer has seen a few of the same providers I have etc I may answer a few questions depending what they are but someone with very few reviews I flat ignore.

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You know my very first attempt at hobbying I called a well known provider..  She happens to post here often and uses this discussion board often.  She shot me down (as she should have) because I had no references..  She even Pm'ed me a few times commenting on something I posted over the last couple years.   I never told her she was the first I ever tried to see not that she would remember me even if I had.  I am sure she has gotten many many no references calls since and before that day. She told me back then get a few references and call her back.  I never have visited... often wondered if I should... Wonder if I could pass inspection yet? LOL



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Sit in my house and not take an apt , than sit in jail for "taking" an apt. It is just not worth it. And ladies.. You should want to know whom is coming into your home, and vs. versa

...Wat??!! A guy would lie to get a woman to have sex with him?? I find that a little hard to believe!      

They do seem to go after "low hanging fruit".

Could be for all the reasons Lacey stated as well...

In my book, trust is a two way street... a gentleman will need to give me enough info for me to feel comfortable. If not, I'd be jumping out of my skin the minute he walked in the door. Where would be the fun in that?
 

Unsure about the Low hanging fruit.. as I would concider anyone established and "hip to the game" would be waste the time on trying . Most of my clients are not the "average joes" ( although I love each client no matter the profession ) and although my rates are mid range, I wouldnt concider that to be a flag to say "pick me". ..  

I think being careful on each sides to make sure whom you are seeing is trust worthy and a valid person to see and provider is the 1st thing you know when in this hobby. Trading safety for a hour of fun is just not worth it.

Perhaps someone could tell me how to get verified if no one will see me without a verification? Thanks

Jail???? Try Tent city and in this heat!!!

those providers who don't use the reference check/verification site system...those who invite anyone over without any sort of background info.
I think we all get those emails from folks trying to side step our safety precautions...

Have a great weekend and stay safe!





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Got to the TER Forum for Newbies and do a search on the key word Verification. Plenty of good advice there.

Now you sound like a certain political party that likes to lie.  I have reported here well known gals that get busted not "every single bust in the country."  If your going to attack warnings trying to keep folks out of jail at least be honest about it and not outright lies.

Thank you.

And Phoenix 4th Ave where first held is terrible.  Yesterday note from PGT gal who was arrested in Oregon on Phoenix warrant.  Ore wanted $50,000 bond as a fugitive warrant (from PGT books just a lower level gal).  Arizona arranged extradition, arrested at Sky Harbor and only spend 1 night in 4th ave jail then mother got her out on $5000 bail.  She said her one night at 4th ave was far worse than about 2 weeks in Bedford Or jail.

In Az of course its mandatory 14 days in Tent city even for solicitation by having GFE or worse on website, ads etc.

A well known from here escort just spent 2+ weeks at Estrella jail for escorting without a license, no license number on ad etc.   As soon as released was arrested again by Chandler on same charges and this time her mug shot up on Joes site which avoided when Phoenix busted.

These are facts why need to be careful vs those that want to live in ignorance.

I only report on local busts of in private consenting mostly known escorts, not street hookers, anything related to under aged etc.  

But some folks get upset with knowledge and information rather than lets just ignore the risks and promote our illegal businesses (sadly).   There are ways to be safe as I've preached for decades.  Being ignorant and attacking those with true info just shows selfishness and lack of regard of safety.  

Far worse if two or more get together, two gals, agencies, massage places since then its a felony.

Friction thereof, Busy bodies etc old cases still ongoing.  Still a few holding out for trial after more than a year while most have pled to felony but with probation typically 18 months to avoid prison.  But have felony record for life and very strict probation conditions (can not even posses alcohol) or probation could be revoked and go to prison just one of often 20+ conditions to be on probation for a felony (2 people or more are a criminal enterprise).   At least if your indie, do not do anything with another you just get the 14 days in tent city and no felony for life.

I just won't give personal ID information over the phone or in email.  I don't want it recorded or kept in any fashion and won't trust that it isn't.....    I'm willing to show my ID in person, and answer questions,  but won't let anything be recorded...period.  I've sadly missed out with a couple providers who insisted...I won't give references either... I don't feel comfortable giving out names of others....

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