I was contacted by a customer today inquiring about why a provider left and was now advertising on craigslist. After seeing the ad we realized someone had stolen her photos from our members gallery, and was using her name and pics to get clients. Part of me is flattered, this is the 7th time photos of our girls have been stolen and used by someone posing as one of our girls(all on craigslist). But the other part of me can't understand why this keeps happening? The only answer I can come up with is the people doing this are just looking to make a fast buck from someone they percieve is stupid, almost all of their reviews are bogus and their hook of a "beautiful girl providing and unbelivable service for 100bucks" is luring in enough people to actually drive people away from the hobby. I've been in this business for 4 years. when I started you had only a few options with reputable agencies and a handful of indies. Upsell ruled the market, clients in the phoenix area were paying 500 and up for an hour that they didn't know how it was going to turn out. Rose, TLC and Phxqts all started the change and advertised flat rates Desert divas, and Mystique joined in. The valley was flooded with beautiful indies providing great services for a rate the same or marginally below the agencies. Clients we happier then they could ever be, so were the indies and agencies. But now we are all flooded with requests for discounts and the flat rates of 3 and 4 years ago or now too expensive. Craigslist is thriving with $100 specials and dangerous situations. Many of the beuatiful inides and agency girls are starving because the art they perform is now being poorly copied and offered at an all time low, the clients have settled for sub par service and the only people that are happy are the ones stealing photos and advertising rip off services to pay for their habits. The providers in this market work hard Indies and Agencies a like, the experience they provide is literally priceless, alot of the ladies give their hearts and souls to us because they enjoy themselves The are true artists, much the same as great painters. Gentleman remember if you want all the feelings of owning a Monet you will pay millions at Sothebys, if you only want something to cover the hole in the wall buy a cheap unauthorized print at wallmart. I understand this will probably always happen but the more people try to get "name brands for less" the more crappy copies they'll end up with. Those of you that keep supporting your ATFs and all the great girls here, I thank you for all of them. Those that ignore the wonderful girls in search of a deal that will never pan out please give yourself break and spend a little more on a sure thing, you'll be surprised how much happy you'll be. Thanks for listening to my rant.
what seems to be transpiring in the Valley of late.....lets look at the history...
All over the country LE is targeting CL and just last week 31 people in New York were stung off of CL...
Now it won't be long before that kind of activity begins here....
So I read the reviews like everyone else...$60 specials, $100 and $150 for 30 mins and then it goes up....no reviews medicore reviews but people keep going back....
So Paul, lets you and I start a service and hire only girls that do 30 mins out the door...non GFE and maybe the client can hold their hand while they are there...
We appreciate the clients that continue to support our ladies and as anyone who frequents this board will know many leave Phx during the summer and tour in order to keep their income steady.....
And yes we also have had people call us and say "why don't you have rates like those girls on CL" isnt it obvious...just read the reviews...
My hats off to the Phx indies and services that continue to strive to provide a quality experience for a fair price....
My answer to your rant....for what its worth...hope the young ladies who pics were stolen is okay....
Excellent post Paul!!!! Sorry this happened to you. What thugs!
You are so correct about how a lot of us ladies do pour our heart and souls to the gents we see. We do enjoy ourselves and the men that put their trust and faith in us know that from our history (reviews) We providers that have been around a while, have great reviews rely on this so that when a gent who is looking for more than just a wham bam...thank you mam! know that he'll share in something special, a mutual mind and body bond!
Thanks for sharing...this was one of the best "Rants" ever
However if you keep your wits, use the big head instead of the little one and for the love god bail if it smells funny bad things can happen. However if you are willing to do a little extra work, dont mind a little uncertainty in life and are flexible in your body types then craigs is an awesome place to find a good sometimes unbelievable bargain.
After a disasterous rip-off from the sophisticated Craig's List, Eros Guide, AZ-Confidential saved the day. Thanks for introducing me to Leah. I posted earlier as a potential superstar. She is that.Wrote review and posted it before she arrived for a second meeting. She just left and this session was equally sensual. I'll never go back to Eros again, until the next time I need to be reminded how inconsistant the event with CL, etc. Thanks AZ-C
So far by using TER! Gents I am NOT that good LOL! But by paying attention, checking reviews, spending a little extra money you can have a safe and fun time. No regrets except when I ventured off the known path that record is not so good. In fact so bad it cannot be published. Look at the risk vs the reward and play where it is safe. Gotta love home field advantage!
I enjoyed the rant and agree whole-heartedly with recognizing those providers that make the hobby so worthwhile. I think the chance of finding a "hidden gem" is what lures many to CL. I think most people know, "you get what you pay for". But too often settle for the fool's gold on CL. I think of women like Jordan K and Maya and somehow feel they should be recognized by Gov. Janet Nap. or something for the reputations and the people they are. A lifetime achievement award, lol? Thanks again for the post and insight.
I too have had my pictures show up on Craig's List. I am only aware of this when clients of mine write and let me know. Usually they are kind enough to report the ad so that it disappears quickly.
Another thing I've noticed, is that when I left the midwest how many Jasmine's, Jazmine's, Jazz, and Jazzy's showed up. Even the agencies began to hire women of my name or variation thereof.
Are these things complimentary? In some ways, I suppose it is a reflection that those of us who do offer quality service; people just want to capitalize on a solid reputation. Then again, it is frustrating for me when I read these other 'Jazz' reviews and they offer shit for service. I am equally frustrated by comments from clients who are new and begin to see me, then after a few visits begin with, "You know I could go to CL and see someone who looks a lot like you for a lot less $$". Oh go on then.......
I take solace in the fact that because I offer a higher caliber service and have proven myself consistent and stellar, that the clients who seek me out are not those who peruse CL and are continually seeking the pse bargain of the week. I have had many clients tell me of their CL horror stories and then tell me how grateful they are for my service. I am, "well worth every penny". So again, I suppose one could take comfort in knowing that eventually people will tire of the CL craze and return to those of us in the industry who will offer consistent and stellar service.
Thanks for your rant. CL is a topic of conversation around the entire country with many providers shaking their heads in the same manner as you Paul.
It's good to be back in the Valley, just in time for the monsoon
Take care and all of us $tay $afe, xoxo Namaste, Jazz
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