What is up with the guys in Philadelphia not wanting to give any screening info? Ladies, is this a normal occurrence? Guys, are the ladies really seeing you without knowing who you are? Is it me? lol This is crazy.
Last minute cancellations, lack of people wanting to screen. Many ladies refuse to come. It's a shame but the ones who do usually make up for it!!
but to each their own. If their "privacy" is more important than safety.... I don't really have an interest in meeting them either.
A true gentleman doesn't have an issue with screening, because they know we care for our safety witch is my priority. i have no interested in "ruining" any clients life, I spend A LOT of money on advertisement, putting my name out there and take me months to have a reputation.. why I would mess that up for one guy. Not worth it.
My goal is to have repeat and regular friends... and those who are they love me bc they know how I manage the information sent for screening.
my motto- Not all money is good money....
Marie, I hope that you don't get a negative perception of all of us Philly guys. Personally, I think a provider's safety is very important. I don't see unreviewed ladies for the same reasons ladies don't see unscreened guys: safety. If a provider isn't on P411 I generally won't bother contacting her since that's my verification method.
I have been asked by providers on P411 for my real name and I generally decline. Again, the reason is safety. You may have no intention of using my info in nefarious ways, but I can't know that. And, if big companies can get hacked, anyone can. Cell phones with client data can also be lost and stolen.
Marie, you ask for a potential client's full name on your screening form. Would give a client your real name? I don't mean to single you out, but I hope you can appreciate our perspective.
You sound stupid. Why would you need my real name when the name Marie isalreafy out there. Until you get reviews, a website, photos, and an internet presence that you worked hard for and want to keep you can not compare the two.
Stupid? Perhaps naïve wanting to keep the discussion civil. Insulting those who you ask to respond to you isn't how you gain friends on our board.
If there are clients who are willing to give you private info, that's their choice. It's your choice to see them or not see them if they won't. Stay safe and enjoy your visit.
Your reply is a really bad marketing strategy and will turn a lot of guys off. Why would you insult a guy who is simply responding in a way that the vast majority of guys would to a request for personal information? Why would a rational guy put a loaded gun in the hands of a total stranger just to fuck for a couple of hours? He would have to be pretty desperate and "stupid" to do so. It is obvious that you wouldn't take that chance just to make a few hundred dollars.
I personally don't give out personal information to hookers and have no problem booking. You just never know when a "well established" provider will go BSC. Not a chance I'm willing to take when I don't have too.
Are some guys that naive? I get why they might object and decline. Fine. But to not understand why you might ask for it? To each his own. For sure.
We will need to teach these boys. LOL. Tsk. Tsk...they are like this in Boston as well...
Which is why many ladies won’t tour in Boston anymore and the same in Atlanta, and also interestingly - lots of busts going on in both cities.
I don’t engage clients in the discussion of why screening and verifiable personal information is so important anymore.. they throw around the same tired arguments lol.
“Would you give me your real name” as if they assume the same risk as a provider does.....
“Everyone can get hacked” so why does it even matter anymore??? Your information is already available to the people who really have the bad intentions
And the most interesting and fun one, “I have P411”... well interesting that you were comfortable providing your personal information to a website that literally houses the personal data of thousands of people. Also, when I was in Atlanta I got an inquiry on P411 from a handle that I’m 1000000% sure was LE... considering he had an “Okay” from a provider who was busted in a sting a few days before I arrived there and still in jail the day she evidently “Okayed” his handle.... so there’s that. I blacklisted the handle and reported the user to P411 but it’s still an active account.
Ladies be careful... that’s all I can say! No amount of money is worth sitting in a jail cell and the embarrassment and added cost of legal fees or much worse... hospital/medical bills or the loss of your life. Seriously. That is why it’s always important to be financially responsible, so you don’t have to be working while desperate for money... please be careful
Also, the onus is on us to make sure you responsibly manage and dispose of client information, while also being safe and managing your business with multiple safeguards in place. (Passwords, security settings, etc.)
Thank you for this discussion. I'm running into the same difficulty here in Philly. And I do see both sides of it.
On my site, I emphasize that "We are in this together." And truly, some trust must exist between us, between both parties. Some guys are fine with it, they understand, and readily offer up SOMEthing for verification. Others refuse.
I can tell a lot on the phone. And sometimes the way they refuse helps me to trust them.
But yes, after so much effort in creating "Nina Noir," as Marie said, website, pictures, ads, etc., it's difficult to take the risk for just that one guy. It's a dilemma in our craft.
Philly is one of my locations I am traveling to in the near future. This is very critical info to have learned. Although, this is something that is experienced in other areas, the extensive amount of not wanting to give any info is a concern I have for the Philly area. IDK I might have to think about whether or not to make an appearance to the Philly area.
and if I'm REALLY interested in meeting her and KNOW it's gonna be hottt in the room, I begin every intro email with my full name and phone number and my work info too.
Throw in my WhiteLists and pertinent referrals and VOILA, the gates of heaven open for me.
BTW, I'm originally from Philly. Great women there and so worth the sharing. Just my .02
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Dear Marie,
Just wondering Marie, why do you think that potential visitors do not want to relinquish that information? I am also thinking what is there hobby history and have they seen any providers who have a strong web presence? Finally if you have to break it down, how many men are members of a screening site that contact you, how many play with mainstream providers, and finally how many men just have UTR's that you wouldn't accept a reference from? Those are good questions and now you are getting some insight as to why a lot of your colleagues skip Philadelphia for that reason in addition to the fact that there are a high amount of NCNS.
What is up with the guys in Philadelphia not wanting to give any screening info? Ladies, is this a normal occurrence? Guys, are the ladies really seeing you without knowing who you are? Is it me? lol This is crazy.