I was the guy. It pissed me off also, but what could I do. That's one of the risks of this hobby.
I'm reading the new reviews and on some the guys are saying that the provider won't allow a second cup without additional donation??? Who the hell do these women think they are?? 300. is a lot of coin, especially for one hour of somebody's time. I should think that they would be more than happy to make a man happy twice. If we hobbyists start showing some backbone maybe we these "pros" will start putting us first. Especially at the rates they are charging us. Waiting to hear back from you guys.
I was the guy. It pissed me off also, but what could I do. That's one of the risks of this hobby.
exstatic... however, due to age... I cannot.... in two hours? maybe? three? oh yea....
so for me, it is the 1 hour, 1 pop... but I need to enjoy the hour... rest assured, that If I pay for 3 hours... and I am not offered the opportunity to pop again, it will be reflected in the review
2 in an hour may be history for me, but MSOG should be offered in 1 hour.
How about this? No second pop is just one problem. How about the providers with donations at 350-400 with nothing special to show for it? Last week, even some guys climbed all over me because I took issue with a provider who happened to be way above the going dontation rate and had really marginal reviews. But she thought they were great reveiws. The problem is simple - and I'm going to get raped for saying this - but to be on this board you have to be "sensitive". Bare naked truth will get you booted if you don't say that everyone is a great provider. And we know that's just behind the tooth fairy in reality. It's not fair to the guys, and it's certainly not fair to the really excellent ladies out there. The ones who never let you down, or fail to provide a memorable encounter. The ones with the good attitudes who want to make sure that you will call them again. There are some really really good travellers here now, and some coming soon. They should not be lumped in with all the average so-so encounters.
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I can understand your frustration but instead of going on an attack because you feel a provider is not worth the dime she is charging, why not skip her and find a provider who is in your price range? Different strokes for different folks. Not everyone wants a provider who kisses. Some guys prefer a CBJ over a BBBJ for STD reasons. While I want the total GFE provider other fellas may want the complete opposite. This is why our hobby is so wonderful. We can search Eros for over 1,000 ladies in our city and find the one who fits our budgets and needs.
I have a better idea. Why don't YOU go see her? Then you can tell me how much I missed. I took too many for the team before the internet. Also, I find your little thing about my "price range" a personal insult. You don't know me, I don't know you, and after that, I'd like to keep it that way.
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I'm a one pop guy and don't ask or can't do a second pop in an hour.
When you pay for an hour, you're entitled for an hour of companionship with a FS finish. Any extras like second pop is up to the provider to give or refuse. Yes, the rate of providers is going up and we are becoming their slave. Unfortunately, paying higer rate won't entitle you for the extras, only give you more choices of providers to see.
Prince, I tend to agree with everything you said except for the "1,000 ladies in our city and find the one who fits our budgets and needs". You are speaking from your home base in DC with plenty of choices. Philly has limited choices and depending on who are visting that week, we don't always can find the needs within our budget.
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The first thing you say is very intelligent. You are reading the reviews and find out a lady does not provide MSOG with out an additional donation. Good to see that people actually use these reviews for research.
So the next statement is where I start to loose you. “Who the hell do these women think they are” Well in my eyes they are the people who provide a service to our community. The beauty is that there is a wide variety out there for everyone. So keep searching and I am sure you can find the perfect MSOG lady who will work for your price. But while you search please respect the ones that do not fit your ideal woman. Now if it was a blatant lie and she cheated the guy, then it is a different story. I have had that happen and it is wrong. But if they only offer 1 shot for 1 hour then that is there choice. Please respect it and move on.
Then you follow it up with a great line that makes no sense. “If we the hobbyist start showing some backbone maybe we these “pros” will start putting us first” So we all should ban together and stand united to force them to make us happy twice in an hour. What makes you so sure this will work? Are you going to boycott them? How about we start to picket the hotels they work at….lol There are a lot of guys that are more then happy with 1 an hour. But there are also others who seek and only see women that offer MSOG. There is nothing wrong with either of these men. There are still other guys who like to try and satisfy the women as part of time. I do not see anything wrong with that also. But what I do not like is someone who stands up on a soapbox and tries to force his views on others. Please by all means tell us about your experience with the women and if you liked or disliked her. But try to leave the preaching to the clergy on Sunday.
PS I also see that you do not have any real reviews to speak of yourself. Unless by chance you are using an alias to start this very important discussion.
So, unlike you, he is not free to express his concerns? Does he need a certain number of reviews to be logical in his argument? And who is it that decides how many reviews he needs? Not your board, bro. Get over it. Until you moderate your own board, there will be opinions that you don't like.
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I was replying to Sambone69. He was asking for opinions from the Guys. “Waiting to hear back from you guys. “
I usually do not express my concerns as he has. I prefer to show the women the love they deserve. It kind of has a positive effect on my time spent with the lovely ladies. But since you have asked the questions I will answer them for you.
“Does he need a certain number of reviews to be logical in his argument?” Well, there is a thing known as credibility. You participate on the board and have many reviews. So I would consider your reviews credible. But when I see not a single review and this is his very first post, something does not look right. Could it be an alias? I do not know nor do I care.
“And who is it that decides how many reviews he needs?” I would probably say each person decides for them self if they consider him credible. I personally do not but you might think that he is. That is what makes this a great country. We are all free to choose and decide on our own.
“Not your board, bro. Get over it. “ I am not your bro and personally do not like some of the things that you post on the board. But you never asked for any ones opinion. As for getting over it I do not have a problem. I just answered the call.
“Until you moderate your own board, there will be opinions that you don't like.” I will never moderate my own board and I agree 100% with you on this last statement. The only difference is that I try to show some class with the ladies. We are only buying a period of their time. We do not own them and should treat them with the same level of respect that they give you.
So in closing I have no problem with a totally factual bad review of a lady if it is the truth. But I do not like it when I see someone trying to use the review process as retaliation against a lady that he saw. I always liked this board for its reviews. But I am starting to lose the love for the discussion board.
You claim you read my posts, and not like all of them. OK, no problem with that. But what is the one thing in my posts that has been consistent? I stick up for the good providers out there. If you define "show some class with the ladies" as also sticking up for ones with two names and two websites, or other variations, that's wrong. It's not fair to the women who really strive to be fair and honest to lump them in with the so-so's.
Too bad you don't like the discussion board. It has come a long way, esp in comparison to the K-9 board. We don't have jokes of the day and insults of the day. You might not like the tone of each post, but there is some interest in what's going on. Now, if the guys could b/c each other WITHOUT interference or censoring, think of the possiblities.
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Nick I agree that we have come a long way. I also do think this is much better than the other boards you discussed. Both are very good points. But the one thing I do not agree with is pulling these women out on a nationally read board and calling it a scam. For example “Asian Jenna” was claimed to be a scam, but it turns out that it was Jennifer from CH2. The Vivian Banks post was another one that looked suspicious but it turns out legitimate. Now what is remembered more in public when someone is accused of something or when they are proven rite. If it is not proven up front then it should not be reported as factual. If these posts were presented as a question to the group that is different than stating they are a scam. I do agree there are some bad cases out there but does anyone do the legwork first or should we just slander a person with out research.
So we are not to far apart. I like to stick up for the quality ladies and also do respond to the men if they ask about bad ones. I do not post reviews for all of the women I have seen. I also doubt that the majority of the guys do either. But the one thing that I would like to see diferent is that we question and not accuse. I only opened my mouth now because it was asked. After this is over I will go back to observing.
Potts, you have only been posting since 11/23/2005, what makes you more credible simply because you have a few reviews.
Some guys like to write reviews, some don't. I have no reviews in TER but have been a long time poster even before TER existence. Is there any one out there who suspect my credibility?
Some prolific review writers are suspect only to turn out fabricated reviews to get free membership.
Sunny, you are just an alias and bears no weight for your opinon. I suspect you are Potts alias and Potts is alias of another frequent poster.
Tigerguy It is good to see that you know how to use the search feature. But please learn how to read what I write. I was explaining to Nick how I choose who is credible or not. I did not say that a person is not credible if he does not write reviews.
“Is there any one out there who suspect my credibility?” I do not know if they do or not. I usually use review section to see info about the ladies. Then if it is a new person I like to check his board activity to see if they have been around for a while. If there is still an issue and I want to see the lady, I will try to contact the reviewer. Since I have never read any of your reviews I would not have came across questioning your credibility.
“Some prolific review writers are suspect only to turn out fabricated reviews to get free membership” I have paid and do get free month once in a while. But I have seen what you are talking about. There are a lot of people who abuse the system. That is why I have to spend extra time when I am checking out reviews.
As for “Sunny”, I do not have a clue who he is and do not care. Me using an alias, it will never happen. I like to speak my mind. I do not have to be accepted for my beliefs. Me being an alias..lol Ask around I do not hide who I am.
Pottscouple, I can tell you are somebody's bitch.
Lots of thought put into that response. Are you going to call me out to a fight after school next?
If you did not want the opinion you should not have asked for it.
I'm curious. Do the majority of the posters on this board really agree with this B.S? The pros as you call them are offering a service. Chances are, if you could get this service at home you wouldn't be paying for it. If you don't like the service they provide, move on. You sound very angry. I worry about the next pro who says no to you. One more reason to screen clients.
Charlie
This is really a witty comeback. "I worry about the next pro who says no to you". Wow, that's deep. What does she have to worry about if she doesn't see him? No wonder we love travellers so much here. Have a great weekend.
You probably love travelers because they realize that they can go to another city and not have to hear the women haters like yourself whine about rates.
Get it through your head. The only reason why any of these women would even talk to you is because you've got the coin.
You're a pleasant sort. No wonder the guys here clamor for a good provider from out of town. Woman hater? Nah, just a "bad-deal" hater. Don't forget your Prozac today. Want to go on a date sometime?
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