It's funny how many of you are jumping down on this guy...cursing at him, etc. He has an opinion just like you.
Anyway, yes, it was dumb for him to go to the front desk and he could have waited a day or so before questioning her (just to make sure she was fine).
However, I think he has the right to "question" the provider after being stood up. I have been doing this for a little while and I never called prior to leaving so who cares if he didn't. She has a phone and could have called. Regardless of whether she thought he was LE, it's common courtesy no matter the occupation.
I personally would not see a woman if she stood me up without a legitmate reason. I am sure most providers would too.
Had an appointment to see Tiffany Lockheart tonight. Great reviews so I was really excited about it. Well, it's an hour and a half after the appointment was supposed to start and she won't answer her phone or e-mail. I drove an hour just to see her. What a dissapointment.
I never perceived her to be or heard anyone else complain about her being a scam. But it is surprising for her. Try again, she's worth a second shot.
5 hours since the appointment was supposed to happen and not even an e-mail. If she had to cancel it would have been fine if she just let me know instead of just being silent. I want to put it here to wanr anyone interested something might be going on with her, whether it was intentional or not. I personally have losy any interest in her now.
I have been with her several times but did have a problem once with her not being available for an appt. we set up. I concur....she does deserve a 2nd shot.
"Scam" might be a bit harsh as you said, but I would begin to wonder as well. I experienced the same outcome TWICE over the last several months...after a wonderful time I had with her prior to the questionable behavior.
To call this experience a scam is just plain silly. Starting a flame thread less than 2 hrs later is just plain wrong. Any hobbyist that has been doing this for any reasonable amount time will tell you that SHIT happens. There are many legitimate reasons why she may not ave been able to contact you last night. Wouldn't you feel like a schmuck to find out she was in an automobile accident last nigh and is in a hospital ICU. I am not saying that is what happened .....but it could. I was out last night with a well known provider till almost 10:30 trying to buy a laptop computer because the lady had lost her computer during her trip to Philly. Lets turn the tables. I have driven an hour to see a provider and when I got to her incall hotel by cell phone battery died. I was there 10 minutes early but missed the appointment because I couldn't get her number out of my phone.
The proper way to handle this scenario would have to waited a couple of days to see if she was ok. If after a couple of days you still haven't heard from her..... post"Has anyone heard from Tiffany" If the provider is ok and she just blew you off then a warning post about her unprofessionalism is justified.
Disappointment is a part of the game get used to it. Every session will not be a 9/9.
Christoph
It is tough not to make an immediate emotional response, but a litle patience before the warning may be justified.....although it seems a few other people have had similar experiences....
sometimes people just get "spooked"
Sorry, but she is providing an expensive service and this kind of treatment is unnacceptable. I made sure I followed every request she had for setting up the appointment. I confirmed the e-mail that morning, and was even detailed about where I was traveling from, what time I was leaving at, etc. Her issues are her issues and they are not my problem. If I have a dissapointment because I didn't do my research, shame on me. This is unprofessional and inexcusable in my opinion. I have a much more important job than she does, and I wouldn't be able to get away with letting something like this happen. And to turn the tables as you say, I ried calling her on 2 different cell phones, and drove around until I could find a wi-fi connected that was encrypted so I could get online and e-mail here. (which is technically illegal)
It's nothing personal about here. If I had someone going out of there and counting on me, there is very little that would have kept me from being in communication. This was not meant to a be a flame thread. I have counted on the reviews I've read on this site and I've had some great experiences because of them. I don't think it's wrong to comment on my dissapointment and have a little warning for those who might be interested in seeing her that something might be going on. That's how I feel, and to be perfectly honest, if you don't like that I don't really care.
The word for today is "patience"
Hypothetically speaking.....lets say I am a Neurosurgeon (I think brain surgeon is pretty important..lol) and I have a meeting with the heads of my surgical team. I don't show for a lecture. The heads of my dept. try to call me on my cell phone but get no answer.
I doubt that anyone is going to start slandering me on the Internet less than two hours after the missed appointment. I would hope that my colleges would be more compassionate and show some concern for my well being."I hope he is ok" etc.
Now if a couple days go by and the word is I just no showed(went on a drinking binge) I deserve whatever negativity I have coming.
Here is a simple piece of advice:
Never leave for your appointment without confirming that all is ok. I will not drive to Philly which is barely a 30 minute drive without calling the provider first.
"I am on my way all is still good for our 3:00pm appt"
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My customers want the services I provide. When they don't get them, they get really pissed. They don't want to hear that an employee is sick or has a family issue. They want what they are owed and they want it when it is due. If I don't provide that, then I'm in trouble. I'm sorry if I'm being to harsh for trying to hold her to that standard, but in my eyes she didn't hold up her end of the agreement and that make her wrong. Period.
"My customers want the services I provide. When they don't get them, they get really pissed."
Does everyone get that upset when they can't get french fries with their Big Mac?
Stop this insanity. Tiffany is a person, not a toy you get with your happy meal!
Yo man, why don't you shut the F up and get a grip and get the F off the board. Like the man said, this kind of shit happens. You sound like a G.. DAMN cherry! Your so F'in smart you jump to conclusions before all the facts are in (sounds like LE, you know, their all rocket scientist too). Grow the F up A hole.
I love it hahahahahahaha
hmmm neurosurgeon...escort, neurosurgeon...escort...good comparison there bud. where is this neurosurgeon board anyway?
As stated before, maybe something came up that you are not aware of that has nothing to do with professionalism. Or.....perhaps it is your UTTERLY condescending attitude that made her change her mind. But regardless, after that comment and especially after your over-reaction in general, flame and all, be assured that us ladies want nothing to do with you. So flame us all if you want now!
yup, its the condescending attitude...thats what made her do that. please...now theres 4 people on here that have been stood up and atleast another 2 that i know who dont even post. all of us condescending. what to do now...none of you are going to want anything to do with me...haha. ill be seeing someone later : )
Condescending attitude? I can forward copies of all of the e-mails from while we were setting up the appointment. I was kind, friendly, and gave any information she required and them some. In one e-mail she even thanked me for being being so kind, courtious, and forthcoming with her. Most of my negative comments now are brought up because of the people that want to get on me for speaking the truth and expressing my thoughts. I'm not going to lie and say it's ok to treat a customer like that because I don't think it is.
figures the same people always rush to the providers defense. now that it seems its become a little common for her to do such a thing, i dont think she had legitimate reasons. and i doubt he would even feel like a schmuck if she was in an accident...you apoligize and move on dude.
i just love how you say the "proper way to handle this is...". who are you to say whats "proper"? because it would be impossible for her to say she's ok and come up with a bullshhit excuse for blowing him off right???
First of all he was stupid for driving an hour without confirming before leaving his house. What kind of whack job goes to the front desk looking for the room number?
Understand something I dont know the provider in question. Havent met her. I simply talking about common decency. Before running to a board to cry about how dissapointed you are the DECENT thing would be to want to know if the person was ok and try to get their side of the story.
Well, I guess to reply to this all (though I am sure it will not conclude the discussion), when I started in july I rarely ever cancelled on clients. Recently, very serious issues have arisen. I do not wish to waste anyone's time, and I chose this field for more than just the money. I really do love it. I had no cell number to call and had seen several happy clients that day- til yes something came up. If you wish to speak to me in a calm manner- I will arrange something to make up for lost time. I am being more careful now to make sure clients know this is only a business and not love. Once again, I do apologize for any I inconvenienced.
With all of the left and right wing comments, I am impressed with this professional reply. My 2-cent advice, Tiff, is to not reply any more than you already have.
BTW, when can I collect that 2 cents? Ha ha.
Wow, theres a shock...NOT
unless she booked the room at the hotel under a different name, she wasn't even registered at the hotel she sent me to. I asked at the front desk to help me and he could find her in the computer.
I guess we'll never see you on tv uttering, "Alex, I'll take providers for $500" LMAO
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Misconception#1-You are not dealing with a 'normal' service or product. Dude, you are engaged in illegal activity .ie, solicitation of prostitution. Tiff was busted in KOP recently and is watching her a**. And by the way, no matter how importatnt your job is, she most likely makes more $ than you and it is all cash and not all claimed as income. Sweet.
so her being busted gives her to the right to no-show? and what difference does it make how much money she earns?
Wow, she wasn't checked-in under her stage name?!?!?!?!?? I'm surprised she didn't at least have it up on the marquee. If you are dumb enough to go to the front desk while engaging in "this" then I don't blame her for standing you up, IF that were even the case.
I'm laughing so F'ing hard I might have to change my underwear!
Did you ask the concierge whether she was checked in as "Tiffany", or "Lockheart" ??? ROTFLMAO
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Hotels routinely post all the meetings going on in their meeting rooms. Wouldn't it be great if they also posted the rooms (and maybe even rates) of providers in the hotels that day?
you felt the need to post this last bit of information. Now did you tell the front desk people that this was a rendevous with an escort, show them a pic off her EROS ad and ask if she might have checked in under another name? That has always worked for me. LOL
im on your side here bro. like i said, happened to me twice and i learned my lesson. u posted your experience and disappointment...so let the other hobbyists take it as they wish. not to mention you never quite said she was a scam...more or less questioned if shes headed that way, hence the ?.
I don't want to read through every message on here, so I apologize if someone else had the same reply. but...
There was some LE heat in KOP a couple months ago and Tiff wasn't heard from. Her website cleared out all scheduling, contact info, etc... and rumor had it that her voicemail stated that it was being monitored by LE. She may be popping back up now that LE has died down (remember that last November was an election month), because I see that she has new pics on her site and her schedule is back in order. Yet her most recent reviews date back to November. She is on my to-do list, but I have been hesitant to contact her with all this going on. I hope she's back in the game, but I want to wait for a couple more recent reviews just to be sure.
btw... I hate to jump on you like everyone else; but... C'Mon dude. Did you seriously try and find her by asking the front desk? That's just amatuer and ridicilious. Macy said it right... maybe Tiff was right not to welcome you in. The last thing she needs is the front desk knowing her cover.
It's funny how many of you are jumping down on this guy...cursing at him, etc. He has an opinion just like you.
Anyway, yes, it was dumb for him to go to the front desk and he could have waited a day or so before questioning her (just to make sure she was fine).
However, I think he has the right to "question" the provider after being stood up. I have been doing this for a little while and I never called prior to leaving so who cares if he didn't. She has a phone and could have called. Regardless of whether she thought he was LE, it's common courtesy no matter the occupation.
I personally would not see a woman if she stood me up without a legitmate reason. I am sure most providers would too.
Agreed.. the discussion board can be pretty cliquey, guys seem to side too much with the providers.
I've been stood up after arriving at the designated place for an appointment. Same thing has happened to me, make the call after arriving and the phone call goes unanswered. Yes, it is very frustrating, but it is part of the game.
I've also had to call to cancel an appointment while on my way to it. I actually posted about this occurance and the provider decided that from that point on she was going to request a deposit.
When I submitted the post about this incidence, I was bashed by providers and hobbyist, saying that I should have given more notice and that it may have been appropriate the pay a cancellation fee. I thought to myself, these guys are nuts, life happens and as long as you make the call to tell the provider that you are not going to show, what's the big deal.
Some hobbyists treat these "ladies" like they are in some sort of specialized highly critical occupation. They are what they are.
My only advice to you, if it happens again, and most likely it will, just move on..
It's that same shitty mentality and attitude that makes alot of providers treat alot of hobbyists with the same dispensable attitude. You're miserable.
Thanks for making my point.
Macy, I guess you must be one of the 10% of "Providers" that don't have "issues" NOT!!!