Do you believe a AMP girl can just say she is through and leave? One reason they move them around is so they never develop a comfortable level with a locale to leave. If you can not leave, you are a slave.
Oh, and to the idiot who posted somewhere else that he saw the girls interact with the girls and there was no way the girls viewed her in a negative light, its called conditioning. Battered women have an outwardly normal relationship with their abuser. And she was the good cop in the situation, someone else would come in to keep them in line.
Oh, and Frederick Douglas was a slave at one point, just because he had aspirations, doesn't mean he wasn't enslaved.
How many of us praised the hill? The girls were all slaves. Debbie this and Debbie that, she is so wonderful, blah blah blah.
Everyone should make a committment to not utilize AMPs. You can never know!
Who is with me???
There are many AMPs in Phila. and have been for years. The question is do they all involve slaves and victims of trafficking?
Think of it this way. AMP's are a volume business and they generally under charge. The hill treatment would be at least $100 more from a local indy. So why is this possible? Only explanation is that the labor is $0 or cheap.
Either way the girl is getting exploited.
There is trafficking of illegal alien in all sort of work, not just in sex work. To call them victims of slavery is unjustifiable unless they are forced or tricked into doing something against their will. Most AMP girls are coming here with the full knowledge of what they will do. Yes, they have to pay back the transportation fee, but it is voluntary and no difference from other illegal alien from Mexico and China using human trafficer.
I've known a few AMP girls who have plans to go to college, save money to start their shop and one even married her client.
Do you believe a AMP girl can just say she is through and leave? One reason they move them around is so they never develop a comfortable level with a locale to leave. If you can not leave, you are a slave.
Oh, and to the idiot who posted somewhere else that he saw the girls interact with the girls and there was no way the girls viewed her in a negative light, its called conditioning. Battered women have an outwardly normal relationship with their abuser. And she was the good cop in the situation, someone else would come in to keep them in line.
Oh, and Frederick Douglas was a slave at one point, just because he had aspirations, doesn't mean he wasn't enslaved.
Who said they were slaves?
Was it the girls themselves or the authorities?
I assure all of you that the average escort is a slave to something.
The overall point is that the owners are part of a larger criminal network that involves human trafficking, drugs, etc. Why would anyone want to suppoort that?
If you can't leave your job, you are a slave. Then many people who don't like their job are slave, because they have to stay on the job they hate to pay mortgage and support the family. I bet most escorts are slave too because given the same income, most would prefer other less risky job.
Who says human trafficking necessarily involves drugs? The media often portraits prostitution and drug in the same mix, so are you and the providers you see drug addict?
The reason AMP girls rotate from city to city becasue they work for AMP network that knows clients want variety. Once the AMP girls pay off the transportation fee, they are free to leave but most choose to stay because they don't have permanent residency and their lanquage barrier prevents them from going indies.
There are human trafficers who bring Mexican workers to work in farms, Chinese workers in restaurents,indian workers in gas stations, Southeast Asians workers in salon, and so on. If you are shy away from all slave services, then you should never buy farm produce, never eat in $5.99 Chinese buffet resaturent, and never fill up your gas tank from indian run gas stations. BTW, all made in China merchandize are produced by slave labor in their county and you should boycott them too.
I don't buy from Red China! I do not do drugs, never even tried pot. Human trafficking does involve drugs, because they utilize the same criminal networks. Having to pay off a transportation fee for freedom is illegal. You need a good dose of reality. Why don't you go work in a greek bath house for a day, and see if you like it.
Hey SteakWith! You are exagerating the point a little bit. These girls are in a coercive atmosphere and they are treated like slaves. However, there are two sides to the issue and the girls are not entirely blameless. I worked in Asia and I know the game. Most of these girls know that they are entering the prostitution industry when they sign on. They often find out about the AMP scene from another girl who worked it before. They are intoxicated by the expectations of big $ and opportunity abroad. They are often warned of the sacrifices they will make. These girls still make the choice to sign on, mostly as a result of family pressure. Their families are often paid a dowry in advance in which the girl will have to work off in the form of a debt. Sure there is coercion. But the girl can still say no.
That is an incredibly lame rationalization!I'm a "slave" to my Mom's German Dutch Chocolate cake...I'll eat the whole damn thing if I don't watch out.......so that's the same as working in an AMP according to your logic.
We don't often(if ever)find ourselves in agreement...but on this one I second your motion.
Boycotting will not result in anything. There are always going to be clients going to AMPs and there will always be AMPs to go to. Especially in a city the size of Philly. They might be a small cog in a bigger crime web, but that is life. There are lots of things behind the scenes that we are not aware of. Cash spent in strip clubs... where do you think that ends up most of the time? Sure, you have the occaisonal college student paying for her rent and tuition, but do you really think that your dollar bills go to U Penn? Long live AMPs. As long as they are in business, I will be frequent them.
Gentlemen,
This whole "hobby" is about economic and and emotional slavery, and there's no "law" on the books governing who, what, when, where, or why the business will be conducted.
If you get to know any Korean people they'll tell you that these girls pay a fee to come to the US and know that they have to pay it off. Have you even seen what can happen to a US student that doesn't pay their college loan off?
All joking aside, there's all kinds of screwed up stories in this business that aren't very pretty.
I guess this all comes down to a question of morals and I don't mean the religious type of morals. I'm refering to the belief in what is right and what is wrong.
If a Korean woman willingly goes to America to be a sex worker, is it right for you to "hire" her for sexual pleasure? Sure, you can say to yourself "Yeah, she knew what she was getting into" and feel better about it. You can also say "She agreed to pay off the travel fee, so once that is done she is in the clear". But that still doesn't address the issue of free will. If the lady says that she wants out, can she do it? If the answer is no, then it is slavery. Personally, I feel it is morally wrong to hold someone against their will. They should always have the option to get out of the sex trade. Why have sex with someone who really doesn't want to be there?
Of course, what is driving all of this is the "sex for hire" demand in America. The AMPs are marketing sex at a discount. Like everything else in life, guys look for a bargain. But they don't asked themselves why they can get a Korean AMP girl for $160 while a regular provider goes for $300. Sad to say, its just like getting a shirt at Walmart which was made in China (cheaper labor costs) compared to buying a shirt that was domesticly made and costs more.
Please don't get me wrong. I'm not preaching. I'm just pointing out a moral dilemma. For some it is easy to answer and they go to AMP women with no feelings of guilt. For others the answer is to rationalize the situation. And yet another group might have a feeling that what is happening is morally wrong and go to the higher costing provider instead.
I have never been to any AMPs because I feel that it is morally wrong. I would much rather find a $300 provider instead. I guess what I'm getting at is this: I would much rather be with a lady who is doing it willingly than someone who is doing it against her will. I can't be sure that AMP ladies are doing it willingly, but I think most providers are. Yes, I'm sure there are providers who are being controlled by pimps, but I think I am safe when I say that most independent providers are doing their job willingly.
Again please don't get me wrong, I'm not judging anyone who might be reading this. I'm just pointing out a moral issue that is related to the discussion of "Da Ridge" and other places like it.
I think it would be more appropriate to say that this "hobby" exploits economic and emotional insecurity. Which looks, smells and quacks like capitalism. This "slavery" question needs to be considered apart from the "woman with low self esteem and guy who wants someone to tell him his cock is huge" stuff. I admit to being one of the latter.