You need to file a police report. LE gets pissed when men attack providers. They will go out of there way to catch this guy.
Hi,
Can you please tell me what I should do. I made the mistake of not verifying a guy in Philly and he robbed me, tried to choke me out and tie me up. Fortunately, I was able to fight him off and get him out of the room. I would hate to know what he would do to someone who couldn't fight back. Please feel free to call me for any more information at 212-203-5360 or email at [email protected]
Thank you so much, Victoria Brooke
Wow, deeply sorry to hear that. What is going on with this country these days, Jesus Christ. Just try to be more careful there sweetie.
This is close to the worst case scenario when no verification takes place. I am so grateful you survived. I know several girls who didnt make it out of the hotel/residence. Back 20 years ago verification options were SO limited. Please, please take advantage of the verification options available to you today. No money out value's the amount of time it takes to verify.
You need to file a police report. LE gets pissed when men attack providers. They will go out of there way to catch this guy.
I agree. When it comes to victimless prostitution crime versus serious violent crime, the LE will take side to protect the victim. There have been reversed incidents too. A client was robbed by a prostitute and her pimp in CC and the LE set up a sting to catch the robber.
There is another reason why prostitution should be legalized, so that sex workers and clients will not be afraid to report violent crime against them.
Turn him in. If you don't he'll do it again.
Post his name, phone # and 'handle' (if he has one) whereever ya can. In this industry there is just no room for this. Absolutely none...
I am glad that the lady is ok, but a sick dude who would do this??? Well, there is no telling where his behavior would stop.
Use the lady only forum or backchannel ID of the violent client. You cannot expose his name publicly. It's the rule, regardless.
There is also the danger of mis ID an innocent person.
Imagine running into him... as he was the client before you.
sorry, this is just too much... and by out him, I include going to the police.
Just no room. none.
Sorry to hear that it had to happen. In these scenarios I don't see what is wrong with plastering this scumbags info in the biggest boldest print everywhere for all to see. I think in certain cases the hobby may need to police it self. I am sure with the hundreds of people that uses this site if his info was out there someone might recognize his info. This MF needs to be stopped yesterday and EVERYONE needs to do their part to help stop him.
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More wise advise from the Hawk!!!
I say if you can post people's name publicly like on a billboard for bouncing checks, than you should be able to out this scumbag somewhere.
I like the idea of policing the hobby...
You cannot out someone ID in any public board or risk getting banned yourself. A rule is a rule.
You don't use the board for self policing of violent crime. Call the real police.
I'm very sorry that happened to you in our city. I agree with others here that you should do what you can to out him so he doesn't do it again!
Were not just talking about a punk that cancels appointments. Or cheap asshole that gypped a provider a portion of her donation. We are taking about a predator. An assault that could have ended in murder.
His info needs to be displayed for all to see. If the concern is not getting banned by TER or not using TER as your forum I can understand . However there are many ways via BC that this info can be disseminated.
I agree with taking some action. One thing is true about predators, they will continue to escalate their aggression. He may already be an accomplished rapist. More than likely he will do this again, and the next lady might not be so lucky. Stay safe, and lets get this hobby legalized and regulated.
Robbery is a serious violent crime. He can escalate it further to raping and assaulting. Next time, report to the police immediately. Don't be afraid of telling the officer that you're an escort. Escorting is not illegal unless you aknowledge that you offer sex for money.
Last year, a client reported robbery by an escort and her accomplice in Philly. The LE responded by setting up a sting in the hotel to catch the robbers.
Don't try to be police yourself. Outing him in the board will not stop the crime as he will just change his aliases. Career criminals will not use real names to commit crime.
Anytime there is criminal element involved, like drug or robbery, it will kill the hobby. The lady forum has already exposed this guy, but he will likely try again using different aliases. Once he found it easy to rob providers, he will do it again and there are always careless providers out there.
A more effective way to stop this guy is to call the police, but then the hotel will inevitably be involved. Hotels do not like incidents and will become vigilant of providers. The next thing hotels will do is to cooperate with LE to get providers out of their rooms. It is this kind of confrontational incidents that made the KOP area hotels unfriendly to the hobby.
i posted a ton of info about this guy. he did the same thing to me. i have since quit because of it
Also post his info on the blacklist website. And if he's a TER member post his TER name.
http://www.nationalblacklist.com/
These are tough economic times.... If I'm not mistaken, this is the second attack in this area in the last 2 months or so. Many ladies do not screen and in these times they become easy marks for robbery or worse.
Guys, we will have to accept the fact that girls will want to screen in order to feel safe. Personally, I still believe it to be a very very risky proposition to turn over any personal information to anyone include so called "date check" outfits. Maybe a good compromise is to have a 2 good provider references. I know this would be difficult for a newbie, any other suggestions for newbies would be appreciated.
I've have to say I am completely disgusted. This guy needs to be punished. Victoria is a friend of mine and the sweetest girl you'll ever meet! I feel so horrible for her. I must say that lately it seems guys are becoming more and more slick and skilled in passing the verification process. I work as an assistant to a few independents and a few weeks ago Leah was visiting Mt. Laurel and she had a bad experience with a guy and he PASSED screening! I posted about this and shared his info with the ladies who emailed me. I also received an email yesterday about a guy in NYC robbing and raping providers and he also passes screening (if anyone wants his info please email me). It seems to be getting worse for providers and very scary. So gentleman when a lady asks for your info it is just for her safety and you should be a little concerned when ladies do not screen.
I also agree that providers should not be scared to contact the police when a violent act occurs. No matter what kind of work someone is in it does not give anyone the right to violate them. We are all human beings and deserve the rights that anyone else would have. I'm sure the police feel the same way.
Thanks for reading my thoughts! Everyone stay safe and have fun.
Tiffany James
[email protected]
Is there a way we can set up a fund or a place to make donations to help her out? She lost money, got hurt (possible medical bills) and may slow her bookings over the trauma. I am in for a donation if there is a way of doing it. A pay pal account something. The whole community should be outraged and come to her defense.
That is so sweet of you!!! I am sure Victoria would appreciate that very much. I know she is very nervous and still pretty shaken up. She had to cut her trip short because of this. If anyone is interested in offering donations please email me and I am sure I can help with that. Thank you.
Tiffany
[email protected]
Tiffany, Victoria,
Don't hobby too much but this attack is just awful. I meant it when I said we should find a way of making contributions to help Victoria make up the loss and try to get her feeling ok. I am in for 500 roses Tell me the best way of getting it there, a paypall account, a wire transfer, western union whatever.
As a man I am disgusted by this and I want everyone to know this cannot be tolerated and that the hobby and provider communities should be there to help each other. I cant begin to express my outrage over the perp and my sorrow for Victoria and the concern it must now raise for everyone.
Again tell me how to get the roses delivered and I will get it there quickly.
Tiffany thanks for standing up for her and Victorie my thoughts and energy are directed to you and your healing, everyone stay safe.