It was her first M&G. Someone has to start somewhere. Give her another chance to do another one. coming from someone who have done them for years, I had to learn. Practice is key. BE NICE!
Sloane
Posted By: Life_is_no_cabaret
Apparently only 3 or 4 girls showed up and about 20 something guys. Like many of the NJ meet and greets, it was a sausage fest. It was at some lousy cabaret club and only beer was included in the price. The organizers should know that if you charge girls $50 no one will show up. Most local guys will not pay $100 either. What an ill conceived epic fail.
My post was not an indictment on any one individual, and honestly I did not know who the party organizers were. The post is not personal. Just an observation, and what I heard from a few people. The NJ parties are usually sausage fests too. Does the lady you mentioned throw those?
I said it was her first M&G. How is it that she throws those M&Gs in NJ? They are on the Jersey board. It is what it is. It's up to the hobbying community too to make it successful, if no one shows up then how is it her fault? You weren't even there, so how was it an observation? Just sayin'!
S
Its up to the hobbyist community to make is successful??? When a number of hobbyists I know directed my attention to it we all came to the same conclusion....100 per guy?? For what?? Have it at a location where if you want something pay for it yourself etc...and to add to that the gals were charged a fee?? WoW...so a guy paid 100 to say hello and look? I went to a mall yesterday and did plenty of that.....for free....where and who did this money go to? 20 guys showed up so thats 2000....just more of that greedy Philly mentality...instead of doing it that way...Meet and Greet make it EXACTLY that...of course not up front will the gals see the business but in the long run that would totally pay off...btw I took my 100 and blew it on the lottery I didn't win but I had more fun.
I'm not defending her actions. She made mistakes so just give her a break. I host my own private ones and her style nay be different from mine. Let's just give her another chance.
S
Posted By: Superfly1719
Its up to the hobbyist community to make is successful??? When a number of hobbyists I know directed my attention to it we all came to the same conclusion....100 per guy?? For what?? Have it at a location where if you want something pay for it yourself etc...and to add to that the gals were charged a fee?? WoW...so a guy paid 100 to say hello and look? I went to a mall yesterday and did plenty of that.....for free....where and who did this money go to? 20 guys showed up so thats 2000....just more of that greedy Philly mentality...instead of doing it that way...Meet and Greet make it EXACTLY that...of course not up front will the gals see the business but in the long run that would totally pay off...btw I took my 100 and blew it on the lottery I didn't win but I had more fun.
Posted By: Life_is_no_cabaret
Apparently only 3 or 4 girls showed up and about 20 something guys. Like many of the NJ meet and greets, it was a sausage fest. It was at some lousy cabaret club and only beer was included in the price. The organizers should know that if you charge girls $50 no one will show up. Most local guys will not pay $100 either. What an ill conceived epic fail.
Posted By: Divine Courtesans
There will be no "working" at this location but you are more than welcome to set up incall in the area..
The only reason why we go to these M&G's is the possibilty of not only meeting the ladies but being able to see one or two or more ladies that night. Non working M&G and $100 for the guys and $50 for the ladies is a recipe for dissaster. The ladies would have shown up if they thought there was good chance for them to make money.
hmmmmmm...that's unfortunate. I see the obvious mistakes. Anyone open to making the next one POP?
Posted By: BiCoastalBeauty
hmmmmmm...that's unfortunate. I see the obvious mistakes. Anyone open to making the next one POP?
Again another one that spotted the "obvious mistakes" so how about YOU plan the next one and Ill be there in my cowboy hat ready to get down.
Bwahahahahahaha...NOT! I also agreed that it was a nice effort, now I see why it was a bust!
I was there last night and thought it was an ok experience. I do wish more individuals showed up, such as men and women, but I thought this was a learning experience for all. I got to meet some other hobbiests and some ladies. I got some great advice from another hobbiest and met one provider that I may meet with later. Overall 7 out of 10 for me, and I'd love to go to another one. Feel free to invite me anywhere : )
I tried to sign up but I couldn't information on where it was going to be. Sounds like they had enough guys any way.
Posted By: Life_is_no_cabaret
Apparently only 3 or 4 girls showed up and about 20 something guys. Like many of the NJ meet and greets, it was a sausage fest. It was at some lousy cabaret club and only beer was included in the price. The organizers should know that if you charge girls $50 no one will show up. Most local guys will not pay $100 either. What an ill conceived epic fail.
I was there and agree with the defense of Taylor. Everything starts somewhere and we learn for the next time.
I met a very interesting lady who I will definately see.
I also enjoyed the conversation with some of the guys.
Best of all, I would like to think I have a new friend in Taylor.
Posted By: Life_is_no_cabaret
Apparently only 3 or 4 girls showed up and about 20 something guys. Like many of the NJ meet and greets, it was a sausage fest. It was at some lousy cabaret club and only beer was included in the price. The organizers should know that if you charge girls $50 no one will show up. Most local guys will not pay $100 either. What an ill conceived epic fail.
I appreciate the props and also wonder why the need for an alias. See there are people like me that DO and theres those that just sit on the sidelines and make comments ABOUT what other people do. The fee was not $50 for the ladies, it was $25. The fee for gentlemen was $100 and that is more than reasonable. It wasnt only beer included in the price it was OPEN BAR.
So you think because I had my first meet and greet EVER and it didnt go as planned that Im what......humiliated, embarassed, should never show my face again ? This business like any other business has its ups and downs. You win some, you lose some. Obviously I had put a post out to see if people would be interested and after posting about the Meet and Greet , if people had not RSVP'd I would have just cancelled it. My problem is people RSVP'd up until the day of the party and did not show up and I had given head count. I lost money on the party which is no biggie, again, shit happens. I would rather try and fail, then not do at all. I service PA often and figured this would be a great way to network and meet other people. I dealt with minor flubs of Bullshit from some ladies not wanting to give reference for guys and dealt with backchannel rumors about LE. You think this is something that was easy to plan and it wasnt in the least. I am going to be having ANOTHER meet and greet here soon and obviously this time around I will change how I do things and leave more time for planning. Ladies will be free however the $100 for a gent is reasonable for everything your getting.
There was NOTHING wrong with the venue and nice of you to try and drop hints as to where the location was. I am ALWAYS up to suggestions, tips, advice, especially with something that I am brand new to (planning a meet and greet). If someone thinks they can do better, by all means plan one, and I will be there. Im not getting into a pissing match, Im not going to waste my time, while you spend your whole day trying to slam "the kid" and I. I still love my Philly guys, I will still continue to service PA, and I am going to plan another meet and greet, only this time Im doing NJ.
Remember while you were sitting on the computer beating your dick (assuming youre a guy) and typing one handed last night and posting the same information on two boards obviously trying to make me look bad I delivered on my end and as Sloane said the hobbyists and providers didnt show, so even with my "epic fail" I dust myself off and do it again. This is business.
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Females for free would get them out. Guy $50. As long as you're not trying to make money off of it nothing wrong with the effort.
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its easy for you to make on comment on the coulda woulda shoulda. However I am not going to sit here and argue on the internet. Waste of time
I am a little late to this sharkfest here and on the N.J. board. I have been a hobbyist for less than a year and i rarely post but I find myself compelled. Unlike other people I don't any need to use an alias. Before you start to rip something you should get your facts right about things like price, venue, and open bar, or you just show your ignorance. I was at the M&g and had no problem with the venue as it was an upscale club with a upstairs area just for us. It might have been off the beaten path but there was certainly nothing wrong it. I will admit it was less than I expected and yes, there likely were a few mistakes made, but ripping the organizer just shows how ignorant you are.I am sure there is a lot of work involved putting something like this together and Taylor did the best she could. If you were going to rip someone it should be all the providers who told her they were coming and didn't show up which is certainly not her fault. Anything like this is only as good as the people that participate in it. I guess the providers around here have enough business and don't see any need for more customers. Taylor posted a list of some who obviously told her they were coming and only one of them showed up. Cayden Vaughn was there and it was nice to talk to her and get to know her a little. Personally, I will probaly not see any of the ones who didn't as they don't seem to need my business enough to meet me.As far as paying $100, there has to be a charge to cover costs and having food and open bar makes it worthwhile. I spend a $100 almost anytime i go to a bar. If this is too much money for you, I would suggest you quit McDonalds and get a real job. All in all, I believe Taylor made a mistake by charging the girls but if you told her you were coming, you knew about the charge. I fully hope Taylor does one of these again and realizes that ignorant smucks don't really matter.
On another note to Arianna Milan, yes,please come to the next one so we can see who you are.
Divine Courtesans I wasn't invited...am I not top shelf....lol jk.
I would like to attend the next one. I will keep my eyes open..
Arianna Milan
Posted By: Arianna33
Divine Courtesans I wasn't invited...am I not top shelf....lol jk.
I would like to attend the next one. I will keep my eyes open..
Arianna Milan
hey mama lol you are more than top shelf
. We were talking about you last night and I wish you woulda came. I will definitely add you to the list for the next one.
I have a few friends who attended and had a great time. Looking forward to meeting you at the next one...
Arianna
This has got to be a tough thing to pull together. Aside from trying to get people you really don't know together, the marketing side has got to be a nightmare. It's not like a trade show or something that you can advertise in the newspaper. Not very chivalrous to hide behind fake names and take shots at somebody who is trying to do something to support our nefarioius activities. OK sure they want to build a business and make money - I don't work for free, do you?
I would think that Taylor already did this, but my "BIG IDEA" is never to reinvent the wheel and get hold of people who run successful activities of this nature. Then do what they do. Perhaps as part of the business building thing, use the M&G as a loss leader/marketing activity and incent people monetarily to come with free something. Maybe Taylor should offer herself as the door prize! Let's see some naughty pics Taylor.....
Posted By: STOLGUY
This has got to be a tough thing to pull together. Aside from trying to get people you really don't know together, the marketing side has got to be a nightmare. It's not like a trade show or something that you can advertise in the newspaper. Not very chivalrous to hide behind fake names and take shots at somebody who is trying to do something to support our nefarioius activities. OK sure they want to build a business and make money - I don't work for free, do you?
I would think that Taylor already did this, but my "BIG IDEA" is never to reinvent the wheel and get hold of people who run successful activities of this nature. Then do what they do. Perhaps as part of the business building thing, use the M&G as a loss leader/marketing activity and incent people monetarily to come with free something. Maybe Taylor should offer herself as the door prize! Let's see some naughty pics Taylor.....
Absolutely, I obviously made mistakes and there was not a big profit to be made. I was more happy to make a tiny profit and at least cover the expenses. The place was expensive but it was better than other places I had gone to. One place wanted 9500 flat rate just to rent out the upstairs, and that was after negotiating. Again, I appreciate any and all advice and am already looking into planning another one. Lol, no not the door prize and no naughty pics of me
