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For love of a fat woman- repost via NY Board
thickredbeauty See my TER Reviews 1501 reads
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This is a labor of love and I hope it is received well.  I realize that some of you do not understand why a hobbyist would seek a larger provider for any reason.  My hope is that you will open your mind a bit and try to understand.

First, the notion that there is some sort of superiority of a thin woman over an overweight woman is nonsense.  This is why… women are not just made up by the body they come in.  Now for some of you, I get the need to see women that are out of your league but the conclusion that a big woman is inherently NOT out of your league is silly.  I have noticed that my fellow large ladies tend to let themselves be abused and taken advantage of often, and there are many reasons to explain that occurrence: primarily the need for under achieving, pre-pubescent juveniles who seemed to be trapped in Junior High to tease and otherwise demean other humans to hide their own inadequacies.  However, the same environmental influences also affect so called “pretty” women.  I can not tell you how many times I have been approached by women half my size that are mesmerized by my confidence.  I have seen 115lbs beauties being called fat by men that were turned down.  And these poor girls actually listen!  I also love the way women are compared to cars.  Why drive a ….. When you could drive a ….?  Well that’s why there are Mustang lovers versus Corvette enthusiasts.  Still others would rather drive an Escalade or a Hummer.  It is personal preference.  You are being selfish and arrogant to assume that you know what other men enjoy!  Get over yourself; you can not speak for anyone other than yourself!  When you roll into (pun intended) a fat bashing post, you are bullying.  If you don’t like big women, OK but don’t assume that since YOU don’t like them that OTHER men do not enjoy their company.  Your fantasy is not the fantasy of all men.

Second, the notion of beauty is subjective, cultural and somewhat influenced by age (not the age of the object in question, but rather the age of the judge).  Please read this definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty.  If you have any cognitive abilities you will realize by definition a big woman can fit into that category and a thin woman may not.  Point being that your idea of what is beautiful is your choice.  What traits you find beautiful may not match the next persons.  Moreover, a man that enjoys beauty in all women will find that in each woman he meets.

I must take from some of my personal experience to relay my point.  Without exposing my client’s identities, I will try to explain what I have been told by men that have sought me out professionally.  Most of my clients (probably 80%) are not “chubby chasers”.  They enjoy many qualities in a woman, not just a willing body (for the record, I know that is a misconception about why a man sees a larger woman).  I have been told by “spinner” connoisseurs that I am the first big woman that they have been attracted too.  They can’t explain why, they just are.  The point is, no one can be certain why someone is or is not attractive- you are just attracted.

I am sure someone will post the unfounded societal preference toward thin women and I am quick to point out that society did not always favor thin women.  It is sad to me that society has any bearing on a person’s worth.  Each of us has qualities, physical features and abilities that are unique to just ourselves.  Societal pressure to look, act or be a certain way is in no way an accurate representation of how the individual should look, act or be.  For obvious things, society has helped to reign in obscure and barbaric behavior but being overweight is hardly that destructive.  Granted it has been shown to accelerate many illnesses and conditions but the same can be said of drinking, smoking, working, fucking, etc.  Using those reasons as a means of justifying your fat bashing is poor and unfounded.

My final thought is, can large providers, adoring hobbyists and those that despise large women not be in harmony?  You don’t like us, we get it!  So, let’s just call it a draw and go on.  You feel your money is better spent elsewhere, and I respect that.  But please respect that your preferences and tastes are just that, yours and not everyone shares them.  The need to tease, satirize, belittle, demean or otherwise harm anyone (not just large women) should have been left in your freshman locker along with your acne cream.

XO
Melanie

“If I had been around when Rubens was painting, I would have been revered as a fabulous model.  Kate Moss?  Well, she would have been the paintbrush.”  ~Dawn French

more compassion, tolerance and sex!  I wouldn't even have read about the nasty comments posted on this board in the last few days except that I read the provider board and it made it over there.

Is the goal of this bullying (under aliases which always amuses me) to get large providers not to visit this area?

My observation is that by allowing all this mean-spirited nonsense you are stunting the hobby community in this area- not just for those that like big women, but for all who may have an opinion that differs from the heavy hitters on this board.

My $0.02 fat sense.

XO
Melanie

anon76588492649 reads

I allow aliases because there are a #  of legitimate uses for them. If  the tone gets a bit shrill, roll with it. This is a sex board-- ladies, and guys can speak their minds about their likes/dislikes about the type of sex they enjoy , body types, fetishes, freak show stuff, foul crap etc.  This is NOT the "have a nice day board". C'mon people!!!

If women dislike fat men-- LOL-- post it! I don't care!  If ladies hate old geezers say so. I'm NOT stifling speech. I'm all about freedom. At the end of the day most people prefer freedom of speech. If some can't hack it.... there's always "the Wiggles" on TV.    Merry Christmas!

Fuzzy--- your humble (lol) Moderator  ;-)


-- Modified on 12/13/2007 10:39:01 AM

or value have no place in such discussions.***** (That was directly copied from the TER Rules)

Fat people (emphasis on PEOPLE) are persons too- so I think bashing them falls without the TER posted parameters.

Melanie

anon76588491022 reads

If you are unhappy with some guy's thoughts or his opinion... write him back. Discourse is a GOOD thing. Let's not get overly sensitive friends.

A discussion board is for DISCUSSION--  the good, the bad, the ugly, the disgusting, the vile, the sweet etc. etc. This is not high tea with the queen.

I would be happy to PM those in question but they always seem to do their insulting under aliases....there's a surprise.  Aliases for which you can see the real handles.

I agree discourse is a good thing- however, that is impaired when you bully others into NOT giving an opinion.  I doubt you realize how many feel the same way I do- "ideal" providers and other hobbyists alike.

As always, you can lead a horse to water...



-- Modified on 12/13/2007 1:41:34 PM

anon76588491275 reads

Good God lady---WTF?   You are a very angry person, and for whatever reason, your anger seems aimed at ME!  I'm a big boy, and can take it, but fail to understand your overly sensitive demeanor, and your ultimate anger?  C'mon, I haven't picked on you in any way, shape, or form.  Why the hissy fit?

Maybe I can get you a drink?   ;-)

Fuzzy

Merry Christmas to all!

Why is it, though, that guys who admit they don't prefer the larger women seem to be attacked for having some sort of bias? I don't prefer the larger women. Live with it. Maybe I'm missing out on something. This is a board in which guys shell out considerable amounts of their livliehoods to see WHOMEVER they want. Choice is universal. As long as things remain civil and respectful, I'll pick by whatever standards I see fit.

On my aspect, it had nothing to do with weight.. it has everything to do with having a voice and speaking your mind.. Many dont like that !

Thats just the skinny of it !
And I dont mean it to be rude..
They do it to any girls that is well liked and popular amongst the community,.

TER is nothing but a diversion to somes day. They dont use it for the purpose in which  the site was built for !

Don't let it bother you ! Have a thick skin and blow it off ... We've all been there, we all go through it ! and here we are. Still posting and making alot of stinkin` money..



-- Modified on 12/14/2007 9:16:57 AM

LIKES EM LEAN1402 reads

OMG, Did you eat Dr. Phil.  What a rant.

Why eat chop sirlion when you can eat filet mignon for the same price.

Its funny when I see a BBW post here.  They start in the subject line " BACK BY POPULAR REQUEST"   or
" TRAVELING HERE BY OVERWHELMING REQUEST" or my favorite " YOUR FANTASY ( INSERT WHATEVER).  Come on.  No one despises anyone, but if someone posts about a woman whos boobs are like two water bags that she throws over her shoulders
( where this all started) then it all fair game.  If a guy wants to find the wetspot by seperating the rolls, Good for him.. My additional thought was that a six pack of Bud  or a kind word and a drink at a happy hour will yield him more AMPLE pussy than he can possible handle.  My only recomendation for him is not to go Cowgirl.


So, I guess I'm flattered and disgusted at the same time, since I seem to have facilitated this discussion with my request for information below.  

Anyway, Mr./Ms. LeanLove or whatever seems to see this hobby as an activity for those who are hard up and can't pick up skinny girls - only fat ones - at the bar.  This is sad, Mr./Ms. Lean, and probably inaccurate.

I enjoy this hobby for a wide array of reasons but none of them has to do with an inability to court companionship in other venues.  I can imagine, though, that someone of limited self-esteem (who possible has "weight issues" of his or her own) would despise those who would actually seek out companionship with providers who fall outside some predetermined dimensional parameters.  

I tend to return to providers with whom I have enjoyed a comfortable, sensual, playful hour (or so).  Some are thin, some are medium, some are more ample.  That tends to NOT be what I remember most about them (though I admit I love large breasts and they often come with large bodies attached - but it's so much more to lust upon!).

At first I assumed LeanBigot was male, but after reading some of the other posts, I realize it's probably a woman, perhaps a provider.  Why not clear up our curiosity and post under your real username?  We're all very understanding and supportive on this board, right?



cumcummer1690 reads

What got "thickredbeauty" so upset, but I do take exception to your statements and I do believe that this is exactly the type of comments she is referring to when she wrote this.  

I disagree that it is an issue that needed to be addressed, but... it is here so here is my 2 cents

... yea, it bothers me to read these remarks because somehow, you make it seem that someone leaner is ALWAYS considered the filet mignon of ladies, and so let's argue that in fact, yea, the lean ladies are filet mignon, and that the bigger ladies are caviar.  

Some people love filet mignon, some people love caviar... likely many lovers of caviar would not understand paying such a high price for what we consider a steak, many of the meat lovers would baulk at paying a premium price for what is simply fish eggs.  Hey and then there are those that love both!

To be honest, lot's of guys do contact girls to travel, big girls, little girls, medium sized, believe it or not, some people DO like caviar!  And there will request it!

There is no need to insult the bigger ladies with such ridiculous statements as "If a guy wants to find the wet spot by separating the rolls, Good for him" because honestly, really?  Is that how you think you find the wet spot (and the wet spot I know of, I avoid, but I am assuming you mean the clit?)?!  I am not sure where you are finding it on the lean girls, but I hazard to say you are looking in the wrong place!

And there is no need for big girl lovers to insult thin girls or the guys that choose to see them either.  There is enough room for us all to have some great fun, if we are doing that, we won't even have time to respond to these... oh, I am off to have fun!

-- Modified on 12/14/2007 8:15:39 AM

What someone says about you usually speaks more about them than you.

The good thing is that variety is the spice of life...

When my mouth is connected to yours and my hands are sliding over your skin... it all feels wonderful.

misterday1420 reads

And to all the BBW, don't listen to all the nonsense and keep your chin up.  And the other chin too.  And the third chin as well.

Just kidding.

shaka7001263 reads

Especially with the fact that you moderate other boards on Ter.

Its apparant that some people on the boards do not believe in freedom of speech.

Please keep the freedom of speech on your boards. Remember people though at the same time you have to follow TER rules.  

Merry Christmas Fuzzy

-- Modified on 12/14/2007 12:51:01 PM

CougarFood1192 reads

There is a sincere sensibility in your endeavor to educate those who stereotype women due to size. Not everyone will have to agree,however. But for those of us that see you for who you truly are, we are indeed the lucky ones. I do enjoy thin women, however I love women with “curves” too.

P.S. We may have to set up an appointment sometime when you are in Philadelphia.

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