When I joined P411 I had to have a providers one - I didn’t have to have TER reviews. From what you are saying that appears to have changed but I can assure you it hasn’t always been the case...

I need to have a providers approval/referral.

Posts like this serve no useful purpose except encourage an us-vs-them online bickering. You want to leave? So leave. Market forces will bring you back. When Verizon comes calling for your monthly phone bill wanna bet you will be advertising back on the sites you thought you were too good for?

I'm not sure why you are lumping them together as their functions and the way they are presented are completely different.  Can you please explain why a girl who uses P411 should be forced to participate in TER as well?

i agree. They're two different things. P411 is for the purpose of making sure you and I are on the up-and-up, while TER is here to make providers accountable, originally.  

When I was accepted into P411, I believe it was via a client-member referral and a vouch from RS-AVS (formerly RS2K) which is mainly a Chicago thing.  

As for the OP, you know how I feel about "man hating cunts" Well I feel the same way about "hooker hating Johns" and that describes the OP to a tee.  

First I was a member of P411 before my first review on TER. 2 longstanding male members of P411 gave me OK's way back when. before 2007

I think there is some confusion about the TER/P411 relationship timeline.  I may have misread it, but recently there was a posting on here where some provider mentioned that P411 is now accepting only TER reviews as verification.  I may have that wrong, but it would be a change from past practices.

Idk I don’t have p411 , I left them long before sesta fosta , I had it through referrals though not TER . I wasn’t a fan really , although I know lot of people did well there . haven’t had it and I have my reviews here and a twitter account . I place very few ads personally.  
I just have regulars .
Some girls don’t want reviews, I guess that’s their thing .

I'd avoid bringing up past doxing.  We really don't want to go there.

There are thousands on here, why do you care about the ladies who delist? If you only want to see reviewed ladies, just dont call the delisted one's, simple.

This wouls be like me saying "I only date guys who own cats, how dare the others own dogs instead!"

Hey do you NOT know how to read?

I can’t help but feel the hatred for women in this thread. Very shameful.  
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No need to be adversarial.

Also, this CEO REBORN guy is all OVER twitter. Harassing, insulting and antagonizing women. Most sex workers on twitter have blocked him months ago. He goes on twitter outburst talking about how bad sex workers are in each and every tweet! I want this guy kicked off TER.  
I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER SINCE 2011 and I have always supported TER when many ladies turned their back on this website and still are.  
This should be a place sex workers and clients can discuss topics not a place that sex workers can be insulted and berated.

Its pretty clear to me that the negative comments here are about the duplicitous providers that are TER bashers, make disparaging comments about hobbyists on social media, and have been overcharging for substandard services.  If you're NOT one of them, then there's no need for you to get worked up about it.  Ladies here that are guilty of these things KNOW who they are.  The worst offenders are doubling down here with additional negative comments.  

Yes, you are right about the comments about the TER bashers, but that was NOT her point. Her point was about this ONE poster CEO, who used to post as MidAgedCEO, who is most definitely a misogynist or the very least he has a deep dislike for all hookers, not just the sub par providers. If you doubt me, just do a message search under his old handle and you will see post after post proving my and Vanessa's point.

You and I don't often throw that word around towards other dudes, as you well know BOTH you and I have had that label tossed our way on WAY more than one occasion, only to have several women come out and push back on that nonsense.

cuz I agree with both of you about MidAgedCEO. I would only add that if you ever worked with a REAL CEO you'd know that dude was only the CEO of a Mens Room broom closet.

one of THEM.  Read my last line.  I told her not to make herself "SEEM" like one of them.  I know, historically speaking, that she is NOT like some of the others.  If that wasn't clear, my apologies, of course.  

Well, ok. I won’t get my panties in a bunch. Thank you for the advice. However you are missing my point entirely by trying to belittle me with the panties comment as well as the THOSE WOMEN Comment.  
 CEO REBORN still needs to be kicked off of TER.  
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PLEASE don't let some midget with a big fucking mouth chase you off this site. YOU are more than welcome here, that little wanna be web pimp is most definitely NOT welcome here. Yes CEO most definitely needs to be kicked off this site, you OTOH need to stay.

Clients who love TER and providers who hate TER are likely going to have other incompatibilities as well. De-listing doesn't mean all TER members will be blacklisted as clients, just that the screening and introductory process may look a bit different than it has in the past.

The bashing of TER on other plat forms and from other companions (I have seen some who don't like TER) is what was happening at the end and some other issues.