: Ohio Discussion : Re: BP

samanthategan See my TER Reviews 1478 reads

posted 11 years ago

1 / 25

why do you guys keep going to back page??

Ok, I realize that not every one has the budget.....BUT....if you keep going to back page, do you really have the right to keep complaining about the quality of providers???!! Back page is free and open to anyone at anytime!!! Any ONE at ANY time!!!
TER and other selective sites are not easy to get accepted on....I had to jump through several hoops, be verified, and have references to advertise here....I charge more because I take only a few appointments every month....and they have to be highly verified also.
An afternoon with some one like myself is safe, drama free and satisfying.....SO.....maybe worth the the extra cash??? I still believe in quality over quantity.....
Girls like myself are looking for a connection and a mutually wonderful experience.....not money for my next fifth or round of drugs! Sadly, as all things in life....you are going to get what you pay for....there are exceptions of course....but they are few and far between

ExoticLeahDe See my TER Reviews 693 reads

posted 11 years ago

2 / 25

I agree

It's not fair for those of us who enjoy what we do and provide a full experience. It's seems that a lot of hobbyists don't understand that trying to haggle a lady's donation for the sake of their quick nut is insulting.

Lea_ThePrivAsst See my TER Reviews 691 reads

posted 11 years ago

3 / 25

Some pirates can't stop looking for the booty

A local board in Jacksonville, FL is cluttered with the same complaints as well as the praises of the handful of "stellar" providers among all the duds and ripoffs. Just as greeting a new meeting participant is exciting for me, it's probably a bigger rush for the gentlemen. Add to that the thrill of finding a gem on BP or finding your wallet and running and some guys just can't help themselves to look for the treasure and report back what they encountered. The good news is that you are aware of their preferences and can elect to meet them if asked.

On another note - These guys complaining about their BP experiences... how many of them do you think would pass your High Verification standards? Even if they only saw ladies from verification sites, how many of those ladies see a gentlemen with no provider references? Everyone has to get some experience under their belt and the ladies of BP and other sites play a role in that. I can only imagine how long it takes a gentleman to accumulate a good reputation. It took me nearly two years and I had to start on BP.

Stay safe and Sexy!
Lea

Ridgetucky 2 Reviews 714 reads

posted 11 years ago

4 / 25

It's a lost cause. I have been watching it........

for the last several years and I still can't figure it out.

Even when you tell the guys stay off of there they get mad at you for pointing it out. It's just fucking weird to me. Not to mention the majority of the BP gals are rip off gals. And LE has publicly stated they use it to run stings. With all of that I cannot possibly understand why anyone would bother. The risk is to great even if you find a diamond in the rough - you have taken ONE HELL OF A CHANCE!!!!

But it comes down to this when guys got hot and horny - a gal charging $80 and saying come over now is like sexual crack.

I refuse to offer anymore advice on this subject.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 691 reads

posted 11 years ago

5 / 25

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...

INSANITY. Nuff said.

Atlastood 5 Reviews 718 reads

posted 11 years ago

6 / 25

Various reasons.

Supply and Demand.
In a way you sort of answered your own question. You only take a few appointments a month and they have to be highly verified. P411 lists about 57 providers (including visiting) in the Columbus area. The majority of those are not newbie friendly. I don't have any numbers on "Johns," but I think it's safe to say they vastly outnumber the 57 providers who are not "BP girls" (not to mention what happens when you remove ladies who require verified references from screened clients).

Money.
As you said, not everyone has the budget.

Worth.
Not everyone thinks it's worth the price. While I don't have this issue based on local rates, I'd never hobby at NY rates ($1,000/h for some ladies) on principle alone. Could I afford it? Sure. But I still wouldn't do it for the same reason I won't pay a guy $80/h to paint a room in my house. I don't care how skilled he is, $80/h to apply paint to a wall is just stupid. I'm not comparing your job to a painter's, I'm merely making the point that, net worth aside, some guys might simply not want to pay your rates on principle.

Fetish.
Some guys are attracted to morbidly obese women. Some are attracted to the elderly. Some want to be puked or shat on. Some want to dress up like a pony and have a woman dressed as a cow ride them CG. Those of us who don't partake in such fetishes always wonder about those who do. Similarly, some guys might be attracted to the extra risk of an unverified BP provider who could be LE or could have an armed boyfriend waiting for his cue to jump out of the bathroom. I find myself on the fence about this since I do have such proclivities. The reason why I've decided to stay away from BP from now on is because I'm averse to the risk of disease which is higher among BP providers. While I'm itching to relive the high-risk days of my youth, I'm not interested in contracting an actual itch, or worse, that requires medication to rid myself of.

Quality.
For some guys it might just be that they're not looking for a quality experience with an upscale provider who specializes in GFE. Perhaps the experience of cheating on an SO, or being intimate with several women is what they're really after. Your services might be better, but that might not be what they're looking for. I've used this analogy before so I'll do it again, but sometimes all a guy wants is a BigMac and fries, not a Fleurburger.

League.
It's a well known fact that not all men have what it takes to approach a woman they consider "out of their league." Your good looks, advertised skills, and confidence could be intimidating to them. For the same reason they'd end up staying late at the bar to approach the lonely woman everyone else wouldn't even look at, these same guys might be hesitant to approach someone like you. This also is a partial answer to your second question ("do you really have the right to keep complaining about the quality of providers?"). Just because they're paying for it, doesn't always mean they're no longer afraid of rejection. I'm not just talking about actual rejection ("I'm sorry, but I don't want to see you . . . ever") I'm talking about the mental rejection. RT's posts give me the impression he feels a sense of superiority to the providers he's paying. I assume this means he doesn't care if she's enjoying him also, or if she's just faking it. Other's are not like that. So they opt for the ladies they consider more approachable.

Domination.
Some guys view sex as an act of domination (again, RT comes to mind). Your advertised persona indicates you're in control of your life. In fact, you're in control of your business by screening. It's harder to objectify a provider such as yourself, than it is to do so with someone who will see anyone, anytime.

ID.
There's one particular provider I'm aware of in the area who seems to be racking up the 8/9s in her reviews here. She seems to have the looks and the skills (she charges more than other BP providers), and none of her reviews indicate she's anything short of what "upscale providers" are. The main difference seems to be that she doesn't screen. So perhaps not everyone is comfortable handing over personal information to a provider. They can afford to play, the want the higher-end experience, they just don't want the provider to know anything about them, not even their real first name.

Those were just a few reasons I could think of off the top of my head. I would also suggest that such topics might be toxic to some of you ladies. It's becoming increasingly obvious that there are some providers here who have an elitist view that is highly unattractive. I'm not pointing fingers to anyone in particular, but on some of these "why BP?" posts there is an air of arrogance in some providers' comments that some of us are looking at as further motivation to stay with the less judgmental BP providers.

rmike802 11 Reviews 591 reads

posted 11 years ago

7 / 25

Re: Various reasons.

Extremely well said.

Posted By: Atlastood

Supply and Demand.
In a way you sort of answered your own question. You only take a few appointments a month and they have to be highly verified. P411 lists about 57 providers (including visiting) in the Columbus area. The majority of those are not newbie friendly. I don't have any numbers on "Johns," but I think it's safe to say they vastly outnumber the 57 providers who are not "BP girls" (not to mention what happens when you remove ladies who require verified references from screened clients).

Money.
As you said, not everyone has the budget.

Worth.
Not everyone thinks it's worth the price. While I don't have this issue based on local rates, I'd never hobby at NY rates ($1,000/h for some ladies) on principle alone. Could I afford it? Sure. But I still wouldn't do it for the same reason I won't pay a guy $80/h to paint a room in my house. I don't care how skilled he is, $80/h to apply paint to a wall is just stupid. I'm not comparing your job to a painter's, I'm merely making the point that, net worth aside, some guys might simply not want to pay your rates on principle.

Fetish.
Some guys are attracted to morbidly obese women. Some are attracted to the elderly. Some want to be puked or shat on. Some want to dress up like a pony and have a woman dressed as a cow ride them CG. Those of us who don't partake in such fetishes always wonder about those who do. Similarly, some guys might be attracted to the extra risk of an unverified BP provider who could be LE or could have an armed boyfriend waiting for his cue to jump out of the bathroom. I find myself on the fence about this since I do have such proclivities. The reason why I've decided to stay away from BP from now on is because I'm averse to the risk of disease which is higher among BP providers. While I'm itching to relive the high-risk days of my youth, I'm not interested in contracting an actual itch, or worse, that requires medication to rid myself of.

Quality.
For some guys it might just be that they're not looking for a quality experience with an upscale provider who specializes in GFE. Perhaps the experience of cheating on an SO, or being intimate with several women is what they're really after. Your services might be better, but that might not be what they're looking for. I've used this analogy before so I'll do it again, but sometimes all a guy wants is a BigMac and fries, not a Fleurburger.

League.
It's a well known fact that not all men have what it takes to approach a woman they consider "out of their league." Your good looks, advertised skills, and confidence could be intimidating to them. For the same reason they'd end up staying late at the bar to approach the lonely woman everyone else wouldn't even look at, these same guys might be hesitant to approach someone like you. This also is a partial answer to your second question ("do you really have the right to keep complaining about the quality of providers?"). Just because they're paying for it, doesn't always mean they're no longer afraid of rejection. I'm not just talking about actual rejection ("I'm sorry, but I don't want to see you . . . ever") I'm talking about the mental rejection. RT's posts give me the impression he feels a sense of superiority to the providers he's paying. I assume this means he doesn't care if she's enjoying him also, or if she's just faking it. Other's are not like that. So they opt for the ladies they consider more approachable.

Domination.
Some guys view sex as an act of domination (again, RT comes to mind). Your advertised persona indicates you're in control of your life. In fact, you're in control of your business by screening. It's harder to objectify a provider such as yourself, than it is to do so with someone who will see anyone, anytime.

ID.
There's one particular provider I'm aware of in the area who seems to be racking up the 8/9s in her reviews here. She seems to have the looks and the skills (she charges more than other BP providers), and none of her reviews indicate she's anything short of what "upscale providers" are. The main difference seems to be that she doesn't screen. So perhaps not everyone is comfortable handing over personal information to a provider. They can afford to play, the want the higher-end experience, they just don't want the provider to know anything about them, not even their real first name.

Those were just a few reasons I could think of off the top of my head. I would also suggest that such topics might be toxic to some of you ladies. It's becoming increasingly obvious that there are some providers here who have an elitist view that is highly unattractive. I'm not pointing fingers to anyone in particular, but on some of these "why BP?" posts there is an air of arrogance in some providers' comments that some of us are looking at as further motivation to stay with the less judgmental BP providers.

devilsmischief 3 Reviews 681 reads

posted 11 years ago

8 / 25

I've brought this up twice on the newbie board and I'm still a little confused.

Basically I don't go looking for providers on BP. I look here on TER. Of the many well reviewed ladies that come up,almost all of them advertise on BP!?If I decide to contact one I use the # on there BP ad because it is their most current ad. Their other aads and websites are out dated with old phon #s .So where are the ladies who don't advertise on BP? I'm not all that worried as long as she has plenty of good reviews I'm confident she is not a scam or LE but I'm still curious maybe you guys can shed som light!

misohorney 1 Reviews 636 reads

posted 11 years ago

9 / 25

BP

Samantha,

As has been pointed out by others, most TER providers require references from two other reputable providers, as you yourself do. That is a catch-22. How can I get an appointment if they all require 2 references? Where else can I go but BP

Atlastood 5 Reviews 672 reads

posted 11 years ago

10 / 25

Re: BP

As you said, *most* TER providers require references, not all. Your options are limited, but it's not impossible. I'm currently waiting for my schedule to clear up enough for me to schedule with one of those "newbie friendly" providers. Fortunately for me she also happens to be very attractive (my "type"). You could post an ISO for "newbie friendly" providers and hope it's seen by some who contact you or recommend someone. You could also look through local P411 profiles and keep an eye out for the "newbie friendly" comment. It's my understanding that it means references are not required, but heavy screening will take place.

YoMaMaDo 609 reads

posted 11 years ago

11 / 25

Get your tiny heinie up north.....

Where it will be dealt with accordingly. You will be doing a public as well as pubic service to those of us who still must wander BP because you will not travel.....

YoMaMaDo 576 reads

posted 11 years ago

12 / 25

Re: Various reasons.

Nice Job all kidding aside.

beccablossoms See my TER Reviews 519 reads

posted 11 years ago

13 / 25

Agree!!!

Very well said!!! So many bad things can happen that will cost you much more than that super low rate.

Posted By: samanthategan

Ok, I realize that not every one has the budget.....BUT....if you keep going to back page, do you really have the right to keep complaining about the quality of providers???!! Back page is free and open to anyone at anytime!!! Any ONE at ANY time!!!
TER and other selective sites are not easy to get accepted on....I had to jump through several hoops, be verified, and have references to advertise here....I charge more because I take only a few appointments every month....and they have to be highly verified also.
An afternoon with some one like myself is safe, drama free and satisfying.....SO.....maybe worth the the extra cash??? I still believe in quality over quantity.....
Girls like myself are looking for a connection and a mutually wonderful experience.....not money for my next fifth or round of drugs! Sadly, as all things in life....you are going to get what you pay for....there are exceptions of course....but they are few and far between

Jamie.Solo See my TER Reviews 665 reads

posted 11 years ago

14 / 25

Re: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...

+1

I love the posts that are a warning for a girl on BP charging 100 or under. Does one really need to be warned, really?!

Posted By: London Rayne

INSANITY. Nuff said.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 592 reads

posted 11 years ago

15 / 25

Hey Jamie!!!

Yes, I agree and have no problem with where a gent shops, BUT shut the fk up about getting ripped off and bait and switched when you were warned. You can easily see many girls from BP if you research them. Many are great providers and have reivews here, but that is usually because they have no other choice because of location. There are many rip offs on so called reputable sites too, so if a guy does the same research regardless of where he shops, he should be ok.

NorthCostGuy 65 Reviews 619 reads

posted 11 years ago

16 / 25

And Cadillac Drivers would never drive a Chevy

For me it's an issue of balancing my need with my financial resources.

I'll see BP girls, but only those who have been reviewed, preferably by someone I know. I'm careful what I say and listen for them saying things that raise red flags.

I find the best bang for my hobbying dollar is a massage. For $100 to $150 I can get a pretty (generally not gorgeous) girl to do fun things to me. For full service it would cost twice that.

I have sampled some of Cleveland's finest and while I very much enjoyed them I can't say the experience was 2-3 times better than where I usually hang out.

I've had amazing rental cars when traveling and certainly appreciate the luxury. But when I come home I'm still very happy with my Honda. Same thing for hobbying.

zguy8 2 Reviews 574 reads

posted 11 years ago

17 / 25

Please let us know

What reaction you get to this post from some of your regular Hondas.

samanthategan See my TER Reviews 528 reads

posted 11 years ago

18 / 25

Re: Various reasons.

Absolutely!! I so agree!

samanthategan See my TER Reviews 562 reads

posted 11 years ago

19 / 25

Re: BP

Ok Love, valid point!

harryhardwood 90 Reviews 447 reads

posted 11 years ago

20 / 25

Why I have no in the mix

For me it's quite simple why I have BP in the mix:

1. If I have a slow day or I get the urge i can call up someone on BP and get myself sorted out that very instant. With p411 you have to schedule your date sometimes weeks in advance. Love this too but their have been times when I go to these pre arranged appointments and I'm not as horny as I would like.

2. Can't belive no one has ever said this....BP is where all the young girls are at! If I want a woman I go to a verification sight, if I want a young 20 something BP has more than anywhere I can find.

To me it's all about skills the girls have where ever they advertise I have had a local BP girl give the better bbbj then some top end porn stars. I have had better times will $120 girls than $350 plus ladies. money is not a factor to me I will pay whatever for someone that is my type or is willing to do things I like.

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 490 reads

posted 11 years ago

21 / 25

Some know how to use it right and some don't (clients/providers alike). ....

There's gold in them hills in some areas. I'm not high-end and i'm not particularly budget (pretty good provider too imo lol)....I'll throw BP in my advertising mix if/when I see fit.

Epsilon_Eridani 534 reads

posted 11 years ago

22 / 25

for starters... TER does not serve all areas...

... and TER tends to attract the "big city" audience.

Try to find a provider that services the Vincennes, IN area.
Yea... you won't, but you may find a few on backpage.

no, it still doesn't guarantee those ladies will be good, or bad. It's just the way it is when it comes to searching online. It's not like a guy can stand in the middle of Vincennes, IN holding up a sign that says 'looking for a date'.

I do agree with you that for the most part the ladies who advertise on backpage are of "lesser" quality, but not always.

I have found well-reviewed TER ladies who do advertise on backpage... why don't you ask them why they even bother to advertise on backpage?

I'll give you the simple answer... it's the traffic numbers of backpage are higher over TER.

on backpage, Terre Haute, IN, Bloomington, IN and Evansville, IN are the closest cities to Vincennes, IN, which will give that guy in Vincennes, IN more opportunities to meet a lady.
Does TER cover that area? Nope.

Posted By: samanthategan

Ok, I realize that not every one has the budget.....BUT....if you keep going to back page, do you really have the right to keep complaining about the quality of providers???!! Back page is free and open to anyone at anytime!!! Any ONE at ANY time!!!
TER and other selective sites are not easy to get accepted on....I had to jump through several hoops, be verified, and have references to advertise here....I charge more because I take only a few appointments every month....and they have to be highly verified also.
An afternoon with some one like myself is safe, drama free and satisfying.....SO.....maybe worth the the extra cash??? I still believe in quality over quantity.....
Girls like myself are looking for a connection and a mutually wonderful experience.....not money for my next fifth or round of drugs! Sadly, as all things in life....you are going to get what you pay for....there are exceptions of course....but they are few and far between

Atlastood 5 Reviews 580 reads

posted 11 years ago

23 / 25

Re: Various reasons.

I just want to clarify that I did not mean to imply that Sam was one of the people who are coming off as elitist. Nor did I mean to imply that we shouldn't be having such discussions. In fact, I think it's good that we do.

That is all.

samanthategan See my TER Reviews 482 reads

posted 11 years ago

24 / 25

Re: for starters... TER does not serve all areas...

Lots of good points and insight! Thanks for the responses! And just for the record, I don't have anything against a good old Honda....as long as there is gas in the tank its all good! Except for a few girls I know of that actually specify they are only interested in meeting "affluent" men (wow! really?!) I don't think very many girls do. Personally, I love my old jeep!

ler06 5 Reviews 492 reads

posted 11 years ago

25 / 25

Also....

I would say that some guys want to meet "newer" providers to the hobby. New providers often don't get TER or 411 accounts at the start.

My preference when hobbying, I've found, is a Sophomore-Senior in college and they tend to start on a place like BP (unless anyone has any other recommendations of where to look for Columbus

). Over my 5 years between here and Saint Louis I've found BP to be successful 1-2 times a year for that college provider as long as you're selective. They also tend to stay in the game for about a semester or two and so if you're lucky and find a good one you don't need to find the next catch till that tryst ends.