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Reminder: BBFS Endangers us all - Don't do itangry_smile
involorp193 4286 reads
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Regarding a new review on one of Ohio's bigger cities.  A vocal minority may disagree, but I'm sure the most important thing for the grand majority of both the ladies and the guys is playing SAFE.   Providing BBFS endangers us all for what should be obvious reasons.

Be aware, you'll immediately land on my never see list if I hear of you providing this service.  Ladies, we expect you to police yourselves and not see, or give in to, guys who ask for this service.  And also pressure your colleagues to not do this.  This is how STD clusters happen.  And none of us need that.

Posted By: involorp193
Re: And the dudes need to grow the F up and not do it, or apply economic pressure to do it,  either-eom
I am SO sick if the blatent IGNORANCE.  The very idea that you actually think condoms are "SAFE SEX"  shows just how stupid you really are!

The following sexually transmitted diseases can EASILY be contracted with PROPER condom use.

1) HPV
2)  HERPES... thats right, this incurable nasty one doesnt care if you use a condom
3) Sypilis
4) Crabs
5) Molluscum contagiosum

Hetrosexual men who are not shooting up have a VERY low probability of becoming infected when engaging in sex with a strictly hetrosexual female who isnt shooting up.   READ the CDC data and engage your BRAIN.

I am NOT saying dont use a condom I am saying read the FACTS and know what the heck you are doing and realize ALL of the risks.  Condoms can and DO break.  

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Despite dude's unnecessary shouting, I have to concede it's a valid critique of my phrasing.  I'm fully aware of all the STI's that condoms do _not_ protect against.  I used imprecise verbal shorthand when I used the word SAFE and should've said something like "The grand majority of us want to minimize risk and play SAFER (or as safe as possible) with the use of condoms and most of us understand that no activity in the hobby is without some risk."

My rant against BBFS as radically more risky than more or less standard GFE stands.  That said, I think we should shut down this thread.   The review that triggered my OP was taken down and was possibly untrue in the first place and I won't be responding to this thread further...

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Its a mistake in mentality.  Trust me if you get Herpes and you used a condom I can assure you, you wont hold the view you toute right now...

Whast is it you think you are being "safer" about? Gonorrhea ?   HIV?

I still maintain that most people with your rant are largely misinformed on the facts as provided by the Data compiled by the CDC.

Largely this BBFS argument is centered around the HIV issue.   According to the CDC 23% of the new cases of HIV infection, identified as hetrosexual.   8600 (out of a population of 326,000,000) or .00263% of the population or better understood as 8.6 people  per every 100,000 people.

Some percentage of those people reporting as hetrosexual are men who are lying about either being Bisexual or Homosexual.  

Furthermore, the data tells us that 1,023 were white women.  This is the broad category and it INCLUDED those women who are drug addicts shooting up.  That figure is best understood as 1.23 per 100,000 people.

Research shows that circumsized men have a reduced risk of contracting HIV by about 60%

The cold hard REALITY is that  a provider that is not shooting up drugs, happens to be white engaging in BBFS with a white male who is circumsized has an exceptionally LOW risk of the man becoming infected EVEN IF THE WOMAN IS INFECTED.

As a man you are at a FAR greater risk of catching the clap than you are HIV (along with a whole host of other STI)

I just get really pissed when people get on this supposed moral high ground regarding condoms when the DATA does NOT support at all the postition they are trying to advocate.  Beyond all of that, is the FACT that condoms CAN AND DO BREAK.   It is sheer folly to beleive that you cant catch anything if a condom breaks and you stop  and put another one on....

Saw the review from Cincy, first review for provider and reviewer.  Thanks for the heads up.  BBFS has no place in the hobby.  Glad he called it out so others can stay away and be safe.  

The review has been revised and the bbfs reference has been deleted

The review has been revised and the sentence about bbfs has been deleted,

If you give or allow BBBJ and agree with this, you’re a hypocrite.  

And we've got BBFS popping up in Columbus.

Play it safe fellas.

Posted By: DSmith1989
Re: ...
And we've got BBFS popping up in Columbus.  
   
 Play it safe fellas.
Condoms merely reduce the risk of certian STI's and does nothing for others.  The idea that a condom is playing safe is a LIE

I've read this series of rants and can't figure out if you're arguing for abstinance or that BBFS is perfectly fine in the prostitution game.

Either way, you seem like a rather weird guy who probably doesn't belong here.

Posted By: zguy8
Re: So WTF is your point man?
I've read this series of rants and can't figure out if you're arguing for abstinance or that BBFS is perfectly fine in the prostitution game.  
   
 Either way, you seem like a rather weird guy who probably doesn't belong here.
Thanks for contributing nothing.  Its real, real simple.  KNOW ThE RISKS.  The myth that condoms are "safe sex" is not true.  You CAN catch a whole host of nasty STI some incurable with PROPER condom use.    
Stop telling people that using a condom is "playing it safe" when all it does is minimize some sti's.  From that ponit you have to decide what risks you are willing to take but STOP PRETENDING that codom=safe or that you cant catch an STI because it IS NOT TRUE

& also men need to stop asking for this. two way street on all ends. Men, we expect you to police yourselves up as well. I'm sure there's more men who actually ask for BB than women who actually offer it. Don't flatter yourselves into thinking all women do offer BB.

Women should be empowered to say no and not pushed and men need to settle down and stop being scummy.

Like everything in this, women have the power here. Guys can ask all they want, but if the female says no that’s the end of story.

Oh, I wish! In a perfect world, this would be true.  

Unfortunately, rapists typically don't care to put on a condom first. Also, stealthing is a very real thing - where the guy agrees to using a condom and then purposefully punctures or removes it stealthily during the act.  

Rape & sealthing rape doesn't only happen to those who come off as weak or exploitable - this often happens to spite those who hold their ground in and let their boundaries be known.

You're probably a relatively normal dude who would never consider doing that stuff, but one of the main things I find endlessly fascinating about my work is that each individual is just that - individual. Everyone is in a unique frame of mind and some are extremely unpredictable, for better or for worse.

And another post about bb. I just don't understand why people are doing this and as a monger I have little to no respect for those that engage in the activity. Anytime I confirm someone is doing bbfs they become someone I never want to see. Looking at the reviewers who post bb I typically choose not to see other people they met either. It's an unneccesary risk.

Again, if you receive a bbbj or give oral to a provider you’re a hypocrite.

People can say we hat they want about whether condoms work or whatever, but I have been a SW for over 25 years. I have never done anything unprotected and have never had any STDs. So, I will keep doing what I have always done.  

That said, there are always a few who ask for BB services. My answer is always no. But if a provider chooses to do it, it's her body her business. Frankly, I'm not sure safety is something that can or should be assured. Having sex with ANYONE is never 100% safe. Don't just blame the provider, also blame the tiny dick loser who thinks it's okay to ask or pressure with extra cash for it. I'm pretty certain most that give in, it's because they are cash strapped not because they highly desire your cum in their vaginas or mouths.

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