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let me clarify my thoughts...
tp1022 1 Reviews 1782 reads
posted
1 / 24
Confused, but excited

Ladies, I have a question.  Would any of you consider it creepy if I did a phone number check on you, then found your personal Facebook page.  I consider it due diligence and in this case cemented in my mind that she is legit.  Do I let her know I found it?

tp1022 1 Reviews 809 reads
posted
2 / 24
Any thoughts at all?


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MissErinBlack See my TER Reviews 1072 reads
posted
3 / 24
if you found a personal facebook page, that's not okay.

If you found a facebook page associated with her as a provider, that's fine and is a marketing tool.  

She probably has no idea that her phone number is on her facebook, and that's a big mistake on her part. You should honestly let her know that you googled her phone number/searched it on facebook and her personal profile came up.

I'm not sure how checking a phone number on facebook would make you feel any better about seeing a girl.  Does she have reviews? A website? Social media presence? That should be all you need in order to make an informed decision.

MissLovelyGunns See my TER Reviews 733 reads
posted
4 / 24
If...

If it were me and I was dumb enough to have one number for hobby and personal - then I guess the invasion of privacy would be deserved.

Not sure why anyone would search facebook for provider information?

Reviews, a board presence and guys area intel should be enough IMHO.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 924 reads
posted
5 / 24
She needs to know ASAP.

That's a pretty serious thing and could possibly put her in danger if she's not made aware of it. If I were you, I'd tell her (and only her) about what comes up when her number is researched.

cmh614 80 Reviews 705 reads
posted
6 / 24
Re: She needs to know ASAP.

What she said.

Epsilon_Eridani 623 reads
posted
7 / 24
how can that be dangerous...

... when it's the provider's fault for putting her phone number on her Facebook profile?  

the onus is on the provider to do her own research to see what shows up on the internet search of her phone number.  

same can be said of the hobbyists as well. if they are dumb enough to put the same number in their screening information as they use for Facebook... whose fault is that? how is that dangerous?
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Re: She needs to know ASAP. That's a pretty serious thing and could possibly put her in danger if she's not made aware of it. If I were you, I'd tell her (and only her) about what comes up when her number is researched.

cmh614 80 Reviews 630 reads
posted
8 / 24
Re: how can that be dangerous...

Lets do the right thing and let the lady know. Remember, we're all in this together. Be civil and work with each other. What goes around, comes around.

itsmehello 64 Reviews 676 reads
posted
9 / 24
No problem, no need to say anything

Posted By: tp1022
Ladies, I have a question.  Would any of you consider it creepy if I did a phone number check on you, then found your personal Facebook page.  I consider it due diligence and in this case cemented in my mind that she is legit.  Do I let her know I found it?
Seeing that a lot of these ladies ask for personal information from potential clients, I don't see the problem with looking at her Facebook page.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 684 reads
posted
10 / 24
I'm not saying it wasn't dumb of her to use the same number.

But I assume that it was inadvertent. Both her ads as well as Facebook are publicly viewable and if someone with malicious intent finds that information, obviously that's a potential danger.  

Whether or not it was her fault has no bearing on the level of potential danger that could arise from such a situation. If you witnessed someone crash their car, would you assume that they were in no danger since they chose to drive? Should they not be taken to a hospital since the onus was on them to get their car to their destination intact?

Logic, dude. Give it a try.  
Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani
... when it's the provider's fault for putting her phone number on her Facebook profile?  
   
 the onus is on the provider to do her own research to see what shows up on the internet search of her phone number.  
   
 same can be said of the hobbyists as well. if they are dumb enough to put the same number in their screening information as they use for Facebook... whose fault is that? how is that dangerous?  
   
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Re: She needs to know ASAP. That's a pretty serious thing and could possibly put her in danger if she's not made aware of it. If I were you, I'd tell her (and only her) about what comes up when her number is researched.

Epsilon_Eridani 524 reads
posted
11 / 24
your logic and assumptions are...

... way off the mark!

Auto accidents and people putting their phone numbers in Facebook are 2 totally different scenarios!

Auto accidents can result in a death, not putting your phone number in Facebook.

Geez... sometimes I wonder about your logic, Tobi.
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Re: I'm not saying it wasn't dumb of her to use the same number. But I assume that it was inadvertent. Both her ads as well as Facebook are publicly viewable and if someone with malicious intent finds that information, obviously that's a potential danger.  
   
 Whether or not it was her fault has no bearing on the level of potential danger that could arise from such a situation. If you witnessed someone crash their car, would you assume that they were in no danger since they chose to drive? Should they not be taken to a hospital since the onus was on them to get their car to their destination intact?  
   
 Logic, dude. Give it a try.  
   
Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani
... when it's the provider's fault for putting her phone number on her Facebook profile?    
     
  the onus is on the provider to do her own research to see what shows up on the internet search of her phone number.    
     
  same can be said of the hobbyists as well. if they are dumb enough to put the same number in their screening information as they use for Facebook... whose fault is that? how is that dangerous?  
     
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Re: She needs to know ASAP. That's a pretty serious thing and could possibly put her in danger if she's not made aware of it. If I were you, I'd tell her (and only her) about what comes up when her number is researched.

Epsilon_Eridani 579 reads
posted
12 / 24
I would say that I do...

... agree with you on this point.

It's a 2 way street.  

If the lady or hobbyist can't keep an eye on their personal information out there in the internet... then... that's their problem.  

We are not the gatekeeper of other people's private information.  
We can only worry about our own private information.
Posted By: scotdavis09
Posted By: tp1022
Re: No problem, no need to say anything. Ladies, I have a question.  Would any of you consider it creepy if I did a phone number check on you, then found your personal Facebook page.  I consider it due diligence and in this case cemented in my mind that she is legit.  Do I let her know I found it?
   
 Seeing that a lot of these ladies ask for personal information from potential clients, I don't see the problem with looking at her Facebook page.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 509 reads
posted
13 / 24
It's called an analogy.

Of course auto accidents can result in death, as can situations where violent people are privy to information that could allow them easier access to their victims.  

Furthermore, risk of death is not the only thing that can qualify something as dangerous. It's dangerous to invest all of your money in lottery tickets, but that's not going to kill you either (not directly, anyway). Again, this is what's called an analogy. Google it if you must.  
Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani
... way off the mark!  
   
 Auto accidents and people putting their phone numbers in Facebook are 2 totally different scenarios!  
   
 Auto accidents can result in a death, not putting your phone number in Facebook.  
   
 Geez... sometimes I wonder about your logic, Tobi.  
   
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Re: I'm not saying it wasn't dumb of her to use the same number. But I assume that it was inadvertent. Both her ads as well as Facebook are publicly viewable and if someone with malicious intent finds that information, obviously that's a potential danger.    
     
  Whether or not it was her fault has no bearing on the level of potential danger that could arise from such a situation. If you witnessed someone crash their car, would you assume that they were in no danger since they chose to drive? Should they not be taken to a hospital since the onus was on them to get their car to their destination intact?  
     
  Logic, dude. Give it a try.    
     
Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani
... when it's the provider's fault for putting her phone number on her Facebook profile?    
       
   the onus is on the provider to do her own research to see what shows up on the internet search of her phone number.    
       
   same can be said of the hobbyists as well. if they are dumb enough to put the same number in their screening information as they use for Facebook... whose fault is that? how is that dangerous?    
       
   
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Re: She needs to know ASAP. That's a pretty serious thing and could possibly put her in danger if she's not made aware of it. If I were you, I'd tell her (and only her) about what comes up when her number is researched.

tp1022 1 Reviews 524 reads
posted
14 / 24
Clarification

Let me clarify the subject.  I checked the young lady's phone number through a data base at work.  It spit the name and address of .......  I then took the name and plugged it into FB and found the same girl on the ads. Another thing: I might be a newbie at this sort of hobby, but I find it wrong to criticize Tobi and Erin for their thoughts.  These two ladies should respected for their opinions as well as the time they spend on these forums.

Epsilon_Eridani 522 reads
posted
15 / 24
don't need to Google it...

... I know what an analogy means.

Do you?

Epsilon_Eridani 523 reads
posted
16 / 24
let me clarify my thoughts...

... this is a public user forum and all thoughts are subject to be judged. It's that simple.

Tobi has blasted my posts many times, often without any provocation.  
Therefore, she has the right to blast my posts as I do have the same right to blast hers.  

It's a 2-way street.

Get used to it.
 
Posted By: tp1022
Let me clarify the subject.  I checked the young lady's phone number through a data base at work.  It spit the name and address of .......  I then took the name and plugged it into FB and found the same girl on the ads. Another thing: I might be a newbie at this sort of hobby, but I find it wrong to criticize Tobi and Erin for their thoughts.  These two ladies should respected for their opinions as well as the time they spend on these forums.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 606 reads
posted
17 / 24
Dude let's at least keep things honest.

One search of your handle on both this board and the GD board shows your weird compulsion to post under me. No one's offended, we just think it's creepy.  

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani
... this is a public user forum and all thoughts are subject to be judged. It's that simple.  
   
 Tobi has blasted my posts many times, often without any provocation.  
 Therefore, she has the right to blast my posts as I do have the same right to blast hers.  
   
 It's a 2-way street.  
   
 Get used to it.  
   
   
Posted By: tp1022
Let me clarify the subject.  I checked the young lady's phone number through a data base at work.  It spit the name and address of .......  I then took the name and plugged it into FB and found the same girl on the ads. Another thing: I might be a newbie at this sort of hobby, but I find it wrong to criticize Tobi and Erin for their thoughts.  These two ladies should respected for their opinions as well as the time they spend on these forums.

Epsilon_Eridani 434 reads
posted
18 / 24
compulsion?

you want honesty?

how about you constantly bashing my postings when it has NOTHING to do with you?

you are always bringing up unsubstantiated bullshit ever since you started in this business.  
I don't know where or who you are getting your crap from, but it's getting tiresome and pointless.

Get over it and please put my ID on your Ignore User list. That way we all can live in peace.

BTW, who is this 'we' you are referring to? Me, Myself, and I?
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Re: Dude let's at least keep things honest. One search of your handle on both this board and the GD board shows your weird compulsion to post under me. No one's offended, we just think it's creepy.  

Jayonem 22 Reviews 426 reads
posted
19 / 24
Re: let me clarify my thoughts...

Yeah, except Tobi happens to be right and every time you "blast" her you just expose yourself as an even bigger jackass.

The fact is that not every provider on here engages in safe business practices, and not every provider on here even knows how to engage in safe business practices.  We should be helping each other; not saying "it's her own fault", or "well, providers check us out".

If a provider requires personal information because she feels that is necessary for her safety, it is the client's CHOICE whether or not to provide it.  There is no comparison to finding a provider's personal information when she didn't intend to share it, and when it is out there for anyone to find.

I have found a few providers personal info in the past, and they certainly appreciated being notified that their info is out there.  Call her, tell her what you found, and suggest she use a throw-away phone or Google Voice so her real name is not connected to her number.  You might also advise her to never use the same pics on her provider ads that she posts under her real identity.

tp1022, you may say you are new here, but obviously you have more common sense than some supposed "veterans"

Jayonem 22 Reviews 470 reads
posted
20 / 24
Re: compulsion?

Well, Tobi and I make two, so I guess "we" is the correct pronoun.  A lot more than just the two of us, though.  Way fucking creepy dude, starting with this post as an example.  Why don't you put HER on YOUR Ignore User list?  Oh... because that would kind of defeat the purpose of stalking her, wouldn't it?

Epsilon_Eridani 493 reads
posted
21 / 24
really? for real?

where did you get the false information that I have had stalked Tobi in the past?

I have never met Tobi in person, nor have I emailed, or texted her, or anything of that sort.

where are you getting this stalking accusations from? Tobi? that's a laugh!!
Posted By: Jayonem
Re: compulsion? Well, Tobi and I make two, so I guess "we" is the correct pronoun.  A lot more than just the two of us, though.  Way fucking creepy dude, starting with this post as an example.  Why don't you put HER on YOUR Ignore User list?  Oh... because that would kind of defeat the purpose of stalking her, wouldn't it?

Epsilon_Eridani 508 reads
posted
22 / 24
still the onus is on the...

... provider to check her OWN information that is on the web herself.

It's MY responsibility to check to see if my personal private information is "out there" on the web. If it is, then the responsibility falls on me to do something about it. Not you, or that other lady over there or that guy over here... no... I am personally responsible for my private information on the web. Period.

It's NOT your responsibility to contact me if my information is "out there" on the web.  

I have seen many provider's private information that is "out there" on the web, including a few in this thread. I am not responsible to contact them.  
Posted By: Jayonem
Re: let me clarify my thoughts... Yeah, except Tobi happens to be right and every time you "blast" her you just expose yourself as an even bigger jackass.  
   
 The fact is that not every provider on here engages in safe business practices, and not every provider on here even knows how to engage in safe business practices.  We should be helping each other; not saying "it's her own fault", or "well, providers check us out".  
   
 If a provider requires personal information because she feels that is necessary for her safety, it is the client's CHOICE whether or not to provide it.  There is no comparison to finding a provider's personal information when she didn't intend to share it, and when it is out there for anyone to find.  
   
 I have found a few providers personal info in the past, and they certainly appreciated being notified that their info is out there.  Call her, tell her what you found, and suggest she use a throw-away phone or Google Voice so her real name is not connected to her number.  You might also advise her to never use the same pics on her provider ads that she posts under her real identity.  
   
 tp1022, you may say you are new here, but obviously you have more common sense than some supposed "veterans".  
   
 

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 435 reads
posted
23 / 24
Wow, just when I thought you had reached maximum creepiness...

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani
I have seen many provider's private information that is "out there" on the web, including a few in this thread.
There are three providers who have participated in this thread, which means you have found private info for at least two of us three, which is not particularly easy to find. In other words, you put time and effort into finding out private information on women you've never met, by your own admission. You, my friend, are a stalker. Your reputation precedes you on that front, but at least now you're on record admitting it.

Epsilon_Eridani 498 reads
posted
24 / 24
Re: Wow, just when I thought you had reached maximum creepiness...

really, tobi?

have you resorted to using your Ms. TER winnings to make yourself to be put up on a pedestal?

for your information, I never mentioned who those ladies were and never will. Don't tell me that other hobbyists check out providers through the web search. don't be so naïve.

you resort to using unreliable sources such as blacklist websites and false information about hobbyists, but hey... that's your modus operandi.

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