I am in Louisville right now and put an ad up on BP just to see what I would get. Nothing but idiots that don't understand what references are, or how to go to a website. I haven't advertised on BP since I first started, and now I see why. I have no problems with Eros, and that is where I get the majority of my business from.
What do y'all REALLY think of BP? I was talking to a provider friend of mine not too long ago, and she was telling me that despite her rates (hers are even higher than mine), she gets almost all of her business from BP. When she told me that, I put up a Sponsored Ad just to test the waters. I was a little Towelie at the time so when my first appointment request wanted me to do an outcall to a Motel 6, I got a little freaked out and took the ad down. However, in that three hours that I had my ad up, I got more hits on my website than I usually do in a month.
As of now, I'd say 90% of my business is from TER and Eros. Granted, I'm extremely selective, but maybe it'd be nice to have a wider base from which to choose clients.
So tell me, guys and gals: is BP really all that bad? I know there's a lot of bullshit on there, but there's a lot of bullshit on Eros too, yet it doesn't have nearly as negative of a reputation.
Thoughts?
I am in Louisville right now and put an ad up on BP just to see what I would get. Nothing but idiots that don't understand what references are, or how to go to a website. I haven't advertised on BP since I first started, and now I see why. I have no problems with Eros, and that is where I get the majority of my business from.
...but BP just feels like slumming it. TER doesn't seem to attract the majority of that crowd. The BPers also seem to be more into the WBTYM style of session....and even bbfs is mentioned more often on the more active BP-centric review sites.
Then you throw all the B&S and the regular BS that exists there....not my cup of tea. Just seems like a risk-prone waste of time site.
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....i've actually gotten much more biz directly from TER, P411 and EROS than I used to. I haven't bothered to use BP in my base area (DC/NoVa) since like last yr and don't miss it. There are worse sites imo than BP that have streetwalker discussions lol.
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I use this and the other site.
just another ad mall. Granted a cheap and sometimes shady one but not the devil either. I'd be willing to bet BP gets more traffic than EROS, SLIXA, TER and a few others combined. By pure luck I found my ATF there. I was new and didn't really know how bad BPs rep was and she was new and trying to get exposure. Her ad was nothing more than a link to her website. Given her rate she isn't (wasn't, retired?) a typical BP girl but I don't know if I would have found out about her without it. To this day she is the only woman I've ever met thru there, thanks to TER. I still check there from time to time because other than the occasional traveler all the other sites are the same women every month. I would think your biggest issue would be the fact that the average BP reviewer would not be the type to read thru your entire website and you'll probably get a few "time wasters" (putting it politely). If you place a basic ad similar to hers (which if memory serves your temp ad was) with just a link to your website you will get more hits. How many of those turn into dates??? Who knows but you can't sell the car if no one is in the showroom.
As of now, I'd say 90% of my business is from TER and Eros. Granted, I'm extremely selective, but maybe it'd be nice to have a wider base from which to choose clients.
So tell me, guys and gals: is BP really all that bad? I know there's a lot of bullshit on there, but there's a lot of bullshit on Eros too, yet it doesn't have nearly as negative of a reputation.
Thoughts?
That pretty much sums up my thoughts entirely. Brilliant idea on her part to just put the link to her website. Perhaps I'll experiment.
As of now, I'd say 90% of my business is from TER and Eros. Granted, I'm extremely selective, but maybe it'd be nice to have a wider base from which to choose clients.
So tell me, guys and gals: is BP really all that bad? I know there's a lot of bullshit on there, but there's a lot of bullshit on Eros too, yet it doesn't have nearly as negative of a reputation.
Thoughts?
I thought BP and using it was a sure way to eventually get caught. Looking back a few months, I remember their was a bust in Cleveland which a reviewed BP girl was working with uncle leo. Ever since then I would only use verification sites? Have things changed again? Safety is my biggest concern.
It really doesn't make much of a difference what site you're using. Just last month there was a fairly big bust in Denver, and LE got a hold of the girls through P411. The only real difference is that many (not all) BP ladies don't screen thoroughly enough. There's a risk no matter what, but I'd rather take a calculated risk than a blind leap of faith.
This is the primary reason I don't (and more than likely won't, at least for now) hobby state-side. It's effing stupid that this shit is criminal. I can never be absolutely certain before stepping into a room that the person I'm meeting isn't LE. I have only review sites to go on. No offense, i dont know any of yall outside this forum. Reviews of strangers does nothing for me personally. I guess I'm just too paranoid. Getting this wrong one-time is enough to completely ruin my life. I'm just not comfortable with that. At least the providers can screen us. It's not a slam dunk...but...it's more insight than those wishing to visit a provider can obtain. I'd feel a lot better if I could screen a provider in a similar fashion. But, I know that is not likely to happen anytime soon...for understood and obvious reasons. For every 'nice guy' like me out to just dip his wick....there is at least one (if not more) psycho dudes that would start stalking these ladies or worse.
For now...I make it to locales where the risk is non-existent often enough to satisfy my needs. Having said that...I'd be a lot more active if that weren't the case here.
Just one case where the US could learn from our world neighbors....
You are all FAR too paranoid. There are tens of thousands of hookups every single day from Backpage ads. Maybe one-one-hundredth of one percent end up in arrests (1 arrest for every 1000 hookups) , and even that is likely overestimating. There are more arrests from backpage simply because its 100x times bigger than anywhere else. You will likely have the same actual odds of an arrest no matter where you shop.
I've met some mighty fine ladies on BP and have had some of the best experiences of my life with some of them, and for much more affordable prices than the high-end ones here. No regrets and I look forward to whose next
2) Getting arrested is just one example of how this goes bad. Getting outted somehow could be just as damaging if SOs, employers, friends, family, etc somehow found out.
3) Everyone has the prerogative to choose for themselves based on the level of risk they are comfortable assuming. I have found a method that I am comfortable with for now. It allows me to have a good time without the risk of any of the above. For me...that works. If you are okay with BP ladies...more power to you.
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For some reason, he fucking hates high-end providers. This is the second time in as many weeks that he's bitched about ladies in the higher price bracket. Someone's a little resentful if you ask me.
Although your #1 point was a math win on epic proportions.
1) As you no doubt understand...your stat is 100% manufactured. You do not know how many arrests occur related to BP or any other site. Just because you hear about one here, one there...doesn't mean all of them make the news. Unless you are keeping tabs on the public records of every arresting municipality...you have zero clue how many arrests occur relative to the number of successful hookups. To suggest that the risk is one in a thousand based on pure conjecture is innacurate at best. Everyone must determine the risk for themselves (see #3). Based on that...do I need to comment that you also have no idea how many hookups occur?
2) Getting arrested is just one example of how this goes bad. Getting outted somehow could be just as damaging if SOs, employers, friends, family, etc somehow found out.
3) Everyone has the prerogative to choose for themselves based on the level of risk they are comfortable assuming. I have found a method that I am comfortable with for now. It allows me to have a good time without the risk of any of the above. For me...that works. If you are okay with BP ladies...more power to you.
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1) I DO think that the risk of LE is very small if you are patient and careful.
2) BP is like the wild west, or perhaps - if you include the freaks - the Mos Eisley Cantina. For many the risks, and the unknown elements, are part of the charm. The sex is just part of the adventure. Spontaneity and variety can also be a huge factor. I think the things that terrify you, are the things that interest a segment of the population. From what I can tell there is a lot of overlap on the client side.
3) Money paid doesn't equate to a level of satisfaction. It just doesn't. This is obvious if you think about it. It might make you feel better about things, if that is your bent. But it is demonstrably not the case, once you remove that particular outlook.
3 a) Almost everything sexual comes down to psychology. No matter what you pay, if you don't feel it... you don't feel it. She can't guarantee it. No amount of money is going to cause her to really like spending time with you or you to like spending time with her. You can both pretend extra-hard.
Across the board, civilian or professional, the best experiences for me have had little to do with "skills" and everything to do with "clicking" or chemistry.
3 b) The only consideration is that perhaps for some, the more they pay, the better THEY feel about it. If that is the case, then sure: The more you pay, the better your experience. Since you will almost always know the amount you paid, then you cannot escape this. The girls you see should just raise your rates so you can have an even better time. But objectively, at some point, she can only do her "best" and you are then - objectively - over-paying.
4) There are a number of BP girls who ONLY do CBJ, CFS, don't do CIM, and don't kiss. They are probably the "safest" girls you can see because you've got a layer of latex between you and them. No fluids are exchanged at all. She could have "the aids big time" and it wouldn't matter. I'm not saying you'll have the lusty time you may desire or feel much of anything, but there's a trade-off.
4 a) Pretty much all the high-end ladies do: CIM, DFK, DATY. The screening these high-end ladies do has nothing to do with STDs/STIs. Risks of BBBJ/DATY are real. I am not criticizing this practice at all. But, to pretend that BP is the "land of the diseased", whilst mid and top-level providers are immune is just silly, and obviously so.
Some of the clients who see high-end ladies (whether or not they know it / want to believe it) have seen SW or equivalent types. They have probably done BBFJ with them, or maybe worse. No matter what they do to screen, unless the guy talks about it, there's no way for a provider to know about it. You think Tiger, Charles Barkley, Jerry Springer, and dudes like Hugh Grant are the exception? Some guys aren't concerned or actually like the risks.
5) The only girls who could actually "out me" are the higher-end organizations/ladies who asked for personal info to "verify" me. I've seen a number of girls off BP, and none of them knows much about me. There's nothing for them to "out me" with. The balance of power is far more equitable with a BP girl.
6) Giving out my private info to try to see a few of the higher priced ladies is the only thing I really regret in my time in this hobby. Money "wasted" on a disappointing girl was at least an interesting experience. Time/effort/risk wasted on a disappointing no-go was just... tedious and boring
Across the board, civilian or professional, the best experiences for me have had little to do with "skills" and everything to do with "clicking" or chemistry.
Agreed, to a point. There is a huge chasm between a mind blowing blow job that makes me cum so hard it feels like my entire scrotum and anything in the same neighborhood is going along for the explosive ejaculatory ride....and JAWS. So, skills do play a part in the experience. But, to support your point...the separator from there is connection. Some ladies just know how to relate and make the session that much better. It's a "both" not an "either" thing for me.
Suckers...
"Safest" here only applies to fluid transmission. They might still be horrible screeners, indiscreet, etc.
This is conjecture...unless you are providing personal testimony. Can it happen? Sure. Does it happen? Probably. I've never hooked up with a SW and I've never had BBFS (what is BBFJ!?!?!?) with any provider (or worse...whatever that may be). Again, uncontrollable and unknowable.
If they are using alternate screening...fine.
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Holy crap! I have been taking a break from TER only to have my will power broken due to some recent dreams about some tattooed chick. A few of you may know of her. She comments from time to time on this discussion board and may have a small following of men afflicted with porno elbow. I also heard CG has made some recent guest appearances and who doesn't love to read what that guy has to say! Anywho I was reading some of the recent posts to get my bearings and to see what was happening. As stated above...Holy Crap...you guys type way too much shit.
P.S. Boats and Hoes
And yeah, people need to start doing TL;DR at the end of their novellas.
Helps when people don't okay guys who didn't have an actual FS session, which is how P411 was supposedly compromised in Denver.
And i know i sound hypocritical since ive seem bp girls, But just in my opinion back page has higher traffic than TER and EROS because the expectation of a lower cost, but there will always be those guys that inquire because they want high end but aren't willing to pay. Plus the fact that's where a lot of police stings come from so I don't think it's a good idea. If you decide to post on hp though I will definitely still inquire and hope you aren't all of sudden a cop...
As of now, I'd say 90% of my business is from TER and Eros. Granted, I'm extremely selective, but maybe it'd be nice to have a wider base from which to choose clients.
So tell me, guys and gals: is BP really all that bad? I know there's a lot of bullshit on there, but there's a lot of bullshit on Eros too, yet it doesn't have nearly as negative of a reputation.
Thoughts?