I worked for an agency when I started and became the manager ... I'm not saying don't contact them but in my experience here most of them do not care and would dismiss a letter or hang up on a caller who said these things ... They are more concerned with the bottom line not the girls. I did say contact her however he can but don't assume that contacting the agency will be the end all ... Maybe I didn't make myself clear. The 100% comment was in regards to not throwing out names just in case. He (the OP) seems respectful and is using tact so it was just a reminder in general to others.
so call me wrong all you want but just because you have one experience with it doesn't mean the rest of us are wrong. That's what's good about these forums you get a lot of different ideas from different people with different experiences.-- Modified on 2/13/2014 11:11:36 AM
I've been in the hobby a long while and this is the first time that this has happened to me. I'm almost positive I got an STD from a provider. I know this because I didn't have an STD before I saw this provider and now I have one. I haven't been sexually active with anyone else within the time when I would have been infected.
My question is, what is the protocol about informing the provider who most likely infected me? She's an agency girl so I don't have any direct contact with her. I do know she's on a break for a few months so she's not a risk at spreading it to anyone else.
I would like to notify the agency, but I'm afraid of being blacklisted. I would like to notify the provider so she can get tested and treated if she's infected too. Any suggestions?
I wonder if the lady in question, that is if you are right and sure you know who it is, is aware and her hiatus is to get well, depending on what type it is.
I'm not sure if I should give out too much information, but what I got was easily treatable. I don't think it would take that long to get treated.
But on the other hand, they could end up shooting the messenger.
If you could get word to them somehow anonymously, that might be the best way.
...anonymous with the lady, is the way to go. I say this because, she might have been with other gentlemen since your date, and would need to know when you/she became infected. She might need to notify other gentlemen. Also, if the OP notifies her anonymously, she might not take it seriously.
I am in no way telling the OP that he infected her, but it would give her a time line, as many STD's are dormant for a period of time, before symptoms occur.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kell
I am curious about what the STDis and if you had unprotected sex or got it via BBBJ... Lot's of positions here that BBBJ is safe and I simply am curious..
The only unprotected sex act I did with this provider was BBBJ. BBBJ isn't 100% safe against STDs. It's lower risk compared to other types of unprotected sex, but it's still a risk.
1. Set an appointment to see her and tell her in person. You will have to pay her (probably) but then at least you are doing her the service of saying to her face and not to anyone else.
2. Set up an anonymous email address and email the agency, telling them you want them to acknowledge receipt or else you will out them on TER. Then PM anyone who reviews her after you and suggest they get tested.
Number 1 would be my preferred solution, but the provider in question is taking a break so I won't be able to see her for another few months.
We are all dumb enough once to do this- see the std girl again.
I did it.
Unfortunately, this is thinking with our little heads. The need to give personal attention /drama / gratitude when the logical decision could just be to treat yourself and walk away. Because of the agency risk the guy you responded cited. Before anyone says it, it would be different with an Indy or a girl you could find, because the girl's and public need could outweigh your own risk.
Feel free. Just don't come back and tell us a story of how the girl already took care of it during the ensuing 3 months (duh) but do tell us a story if she was so grateful she fell in love with you or gave your discounts
IF he's not exaggerating the story (not active with anyone else, only saw that provider, did bbbj), then he got it from the provider's bbbj. That's a no-brainer unless he's got the facts wrong.
The question is what to do what that sensitive info. I'm presuming it's either gonorrhea or the clap, which colonizes there typically without symptoms. The provider will be passing that on through bbbj unless she is treated.
I strongly disagree with people who think this should be handled anonymously. I have yet to hear a good counterargument. What agency is going to believe an anonymous story like this? Are you going to provide the health records? They can chalk it up to a competing agency.
Who cares if they shoot the messenger? I dare them. They're lucky I don't slam their asses for the inconvenience and the health hazard. Agencies and indys should take ownership for correcting these mistakes. It's the agency's responsibility to notify the girl and get her treated. I would text or email the agency immediately to document the communication. I'd be surprised if a reputable agency not only doesn't retaliate, but offers me something for my trouble. They may want a few details like timeframe and about being sure it's her, which is reasonable.
I believe that scheduling another appointment to tell the provider is a really bad idea and NOT any better than texting or emailing the agency.
This is not theoretical. It happened to me. I even saw the girl a second time because I was NOT sure and got the std again from a bbbj. My doctor laughed at me. In the review I mentioned a sensitive issue but didnt name it. That way, if the agency didn't correct the problem, I could BC the info to interested clients who pm'ed me.
-- Modified on 2/13/2014 12:34:25 AM
First you blast us for our advice as if yours is the one and only sane in approach. If you really believe that contacting an agency and telling them that one of their girls gave you a STD is really going to make a difference I think you're wrong. There are very few and I mean very very few agencies that would take that information seriously or do anything about it. BUT if you really do believe the agency would take it seriously then sending this information anonymously or not doesn't really matter does it. If they care either way they would get ahold of her and ask her to get tested. Again it depends on the type of agency and only he knows. The best way to handle this is to get ahold of her if he can.
The OP is the one that stated almost 100 percent so if his story is accurant, than its still not 100 percent.
-- Modified on 2/13/2014 7:22:23 AM
Also with due respect, as far as it's been said here, I'm the only one here on the client side who's gone through this. When you start your agency or when you stop passing stds, then you can tell johns how to act in response to them.
And good luck finding the agency girl who went off to infect others. Maybe put a wanted poster out here and in Europe where she could be from.
Read the details instead of harping on 100%. If it's 90%, 95%, that's enough to take action. I made the diagnosis because i do this for a living. i dont say. oh, maybe you got the std from a vibrator. lol.
Also saying an agency is unlikely to act anyway is a straw man's argument. YOU can take no action to inform. That would be better than doing it anonymously, putting a wanted poster, and scheduling another appointment.
People and OP will read all these arguments and decide which idea rings true. Get off your ranting pulpit. You generally give good advice. But here, your theoretical advice is found lacking. Sorry, You shit the bed on this one.
Own it.
First you blast us for our advice as if yours is the one and only sane in approach. If you really believe that contacting an agency and telling them that one of their girls gave you a STD is really going to make a difference I think you're wrong. There are very few and I mean very very few agencies that would take that information seriously or do anything about it. BUT if you really do believe the agency would take it seriously then sending this information anonymously or not doesn't really matter does it. If they care either way they would get ahold of her and ask her to get tested. Again it depends on the type of agency and only he knows. The best way to handle this is to get ahold of her if he can.
The OP is the one that stated almost 100 percent so if his story is accurant, than its still not 100 percent.
-- Modified on 2/13/2014 10:42:09 AM
Your blasts are rude and presumptive. You profess to have the best advice because you are the only one on this thread who has caught an STI from a provider before. You say you diagnosed yourself because you do this for a living, and then you say later that your doctor laughed at you because you caught it again from the same girl. Maybe that is all true, but it does feel like you are making up bits of the story.
Get off your high horse. The OP is a big boy and can read the advice and make his own decision. Rudely deriding people is not helpful to the tone of this board.
My rep is well known by now, but making stuff up is not one.
There was an interesting ISO of yours though.
The problem with poor debating is mixing up the arguments. I presumed the standard for screening. If you give all your shit, then you are an outlier. The first question was act or dont act. The guy asked how to proceed. Duh. This presumes he sees the risk reward as positive. Sorry if you really think waiting to see the girl again is the best advice. I don't. The OP will need to weigh his exact situation.
I'm done with this thread. I don't really care if he follows my advice. I just weighed in because I lived it (and reviewed it).
Your rep is well know? I don't recall ever seeing your handle before this year. Your reputation with me is as a rude, insensitive know-it-all in serious need of an attitude adjustment.
I'm glad you recognize your poor debating skills! Self-awareness is a gift that usually comes earlier in life - but I'm happy for you that you are having a new awakening.
Now get back into that hole you crawled out of before your rage gets the best of you
Yawn. Apparently you don't understand rotating aliases because you're no one here. Figures. The capos from the old 2003-06 regime know me from my old handles.
Your rep on the boards is a pseudodoctor, likely doctor in training, writing posts asking girls not to screen themselves, to have sex with strangers, so that your SK Pervy ars can watch. How about the other one where you post a fake ISO, looking for a girl that fits the joke from Rat Race the movie? However, you let girls make a fool of themselves and waste their time before you admitted it.
I suggest again debating with someone more your level like a Dungbeetle, FIdiot, or littlestinker. Lmfao.
You can have this thread now. Now that the newbies can see for themselves what their new mentor is like from his own mouth. New ladies, be very very careful with this one. Seriously.
-- Modified on 2/13/2014 8:01:57 PM
I thought you were done writing back ADJ? I don't even need to rebut your comments they are so self-evidently naive.
-- Modified on 2/13/2014 10:03:19 PM
I worked for an agency when I started and became the manager ... I'm not saying don't contact them but in my experience here most of them do not care and would dismiss a letter or hang up on a caller who said these things ... They are more concerned with the bottom line not the girls. I did say contact her however he can but don't assume that contacting the agency will be the end all ... Maybe I didn't make myself clear. The 100% comment was in regards to not throwing out names just in case. He (the OP) seems respectful and is using tact so it was just a reminder in general to others.
so call me wrong all you want but just because you have one experience with it doesn't mean the rest of us are wrong. That's what's good about these forums you get a lot of different ideas from different people with different experiences.
-- Modified on 2/13/2014 11:11:36 AM
there are definitely different types of agencies and the way they are run can vary greatly.
I also agree with exercising some discretion and checking your information....Taking a breather and rethinking the conclusions.
The only 100% safe advice is getting treated and moving on.
If you want to act in the public good, the safest bet (anonymous email) is not going to be the effective one.
The right advice is situational. No doubt there are things that the OP has not given us about the situation.
Like why he is motivated to see the girl again, for example.
So, advice is rarely completely wrong. I was being provocative as usual.
I also have read every established poster. I have some respect for what you say.
To answer your question, I would like to see her again, so I could tell her the news personally. Not for any personal gain, but so that I could make sure the information got to her. This isn't the first time I've seen this girl so I feel as if we have somewhat of a rapport... as deluded a notion as that may be.
Like why he is motivated to see the girl again, for example.
Think about it. They have screened you, so can probably find out who you really are. You are telling them that you have information that could severely negatively impact their business. Agencies by their nature need to be aggressive in dealing with risky situations (bad clients, screwy providers, LE). Some agencies have links with organized crime.
So you are likely to be fine , but why the hell would you risk having some shaved gorilla show up at your front door and break your kids legs because you might go public about the STD you caught from a provider?
ADJ, I think you are giving dangerous advice
Don't give all your screening shit away. I use three agencies in my area. None of them could really find me if they wanted to. But maybe i'm unusual. I passed screening because I'm real and I've been on ter since 2002. I never gave identifying info. In some cases, I've seen the agency owners when they were working girls.
By all means, if you told them your real name, address, telephone, and used a credit card, and you're afraid the Vor V Zakone will come after you, don't pursue it.
But regardless, the anonymous route is dumb. It's low risk-reward. In your scenario, the best option is to do nothing. The girl's risk and the public good are secondary to your own. Do you need me to tell you common sense?
Think about it. They have screened you, so can probably find out who you really are. You are telling them that you have information that could severely negatively impact their business. Agencies by their nature need to be aggressive in dealing with risky situations (bad clients, screwy providers, LE). Some agencies have links with organized crime.
So you are likely to be fine , but why the hell would you risk having some shaved gorilla show up at your front door and break your kids legs because you might go public about the STD you caught from a provider?
ADJ, I think you are giving dangerous advice
Contact the agency & identify the provider this is pathetic. No one should pay top $$$ to get an STD.
GYT on a regular basis people. Not every 6 months that is no bueno.
Because you have something but you do not know what. I was in a panic & the gal I'd seen assured me she didn't have anything... and I admit she was safety conscious. Thankfully she was not a rookie & stayed calm. Not her first rodeo!
She strongly suggested I get tested which I did... and turned out to be the early stages of a UTI. I was then sure I didn't get it from her. As it was a Fav, I did tell her my results. ONCE you know what you have, then you can make the notification. I would not give hem my real ID. I'd give them the approximate date of service & that's it.
It would be dumb to compromise your own safety...
-- Modified on 2/13/2014 1:18:59 PM