really necessary?  

Ads simply don't give me a good feel for the person.  I might see them if I can learn about them in another way, such as being introduced, or having some intercourse with them on the boards, etc.

providers, the important areas are photos, calendar, donations, and about me--in that order.

...when I am researching. Most here (guys anyway, though some ladies have concured) want to see a web site & recommend to newbie providers to get one if they don't have one. But, is it necessary? I say no. I know of one provider in my area (I have seen her) that does not have one. She does ads on TER, posts in photo threads, and has an ad on one of the escort ad sites. She does quite well, is well reviewed, and is in the top fourth of the Top 100.  

debating whether I want to do that again. I had one. Got rid of it. Designed and did the upkeep daily. Just not sure it was 'worth' it afterall. Ya know? Hard to say, was just more fun for me designing a new one every month for me, no one else honestly. I'll probably still just sit on the idea for now.  

I would say yes, definitely.  You can control what potential clients see, and let us know exactly what you are providing for us.  It's also safer than an ad on a site like backpage, IMHO.

So I've been debating for a while now as far as rates. I know what it looks and feels like on my end...how does it look when you guys actually 'look' and feel out rates being the gentleman in all of this.

and I only posted an ad on Eros cause I had to to link on here. Will stick with advertising on P411 and TER for now only. Not sure Im ready to dive in and go the 'website' route again, but you never know with me LOL.

save for a month (meaning not see any provider one month) so I have enough to see one (& only one) the next month then she is outside of my budget & I won't see her. I usually see a provider twice a month.

...don't have to have Eros or any other.

like if you saw 300 for 1 hr vs 500 for a nour or 1000 for 2 hrs. Like how do you all justify this in your brains essentially or is it really based on a 'budget' schematic for the average guy who doesn't have money rolling out of his pockets to pay for this hobby.

i personally feel you do not need one because of that tight and amazing body you have..your EROS ad is very good..shows just the right amount of skin and curves..very tempting..your P411 ad leaves much to be  desired..you need more provocative pics than the ones you have on there now..the ad should titillate and entice..just remember my dear Miss Steele..you did ask!!....

change your pix for 30 days without it costing you something. They will be updated in 2 days LOL. So there Mac. Of course, I know, I did ask, so give it to me dammit. Now get your ass on the rate question and drum up something good for me. I'm rethinking my rates just a tad to play with a lil bit. Contemplating as I have a lil change coming up. I've been spoiled in getting the rates I have wanted but I have felt a shift changing for some reason on the other end, not sure why. What is going on gentlemen?

are just so much more intimate. My fav is the 3 hr. You can meet out, get a drink, chat, flirt, get acquainted like a 'real' date. It's such great foreplay for the next 2 hours, you have no idea. You should try it sometime even if it costs you more. From what you have posted, you sound like the kind of guy after that sort of thing. Try it one month instead of the 2 a month thing since it will eat up your budget, you may find it more satisfying than 2 separate dates...maybe, you never know.  

The last few weeks the numbers are just one big mess to me.  

to me too....hahahahhahahaha. God I hate figuring out rates, confuses the hell outta me. But yes, you hit some serious key points. For me personally, my battle is the fact that I don't live in NYC even tho that's my territory. I won't 'provide' anywhere near where I live, most know this. So for me, even tho most flinch at my 2 hour rate at 1000, it is truly at least a 6+ hour day for me to accommodate any gentleman in NY. Period. Plus the cost of travel etc. But I get reemed at for saying that, but it's the truth. And why I can't and won't offer a one hour session, it's just not mathematically worth it. Then add the cost of a hotel to offer incall for that in the city, and yes...oh god the #'s are getting fuzzy again hahahahahahhahahahahaha. I need some shuteye captain.

I am in my late fifties and note that you express a preference for clients to be 30-50 years old.  So in spite of you being otherwise a great sounding match, I would never contact you, due to the apparent age mismatch.  Not sure if this is your intent, but if it is, it works.

Thank you for your post. I appreciate your candidness and honesty very much so. I do understand what you are saying and of course hobbyists can be low volume. But do explain, what does 'few posters that are well above my historical range,' comment? I am curious as to what that means exactly cause that one went right over my exhausted delirious after midnight head hahahahahahaha.

Well yes of course silly, thats the point to P4P. Is to typically find someone you are compatible with and have a connection with and to then establish a P4P relationship with her. That doesn't go for alot of gentlemen who just like shopping and trying on and then putting it back on the rack to pick up a new item...ooo good analogy if I do say so myself LOL. But you said you were 'new' at this, so how was I supposed to know you did the whole overnight thing. Of course, that is with someone on the 'special' end, not a first time date. Although, I had one that way, and it was magical. I was literally Pretty Woman for a night. Thank you, you know who you are.

300 hr is reasonable. 500 hr is out of my range. Please note it's not about "is she worth it" it's just my budget.  

IMHO.  I have no problem with your 2 hr minimum, but would probably only book that since your rates for 3 and 4 hrs don't offer any incentive.  I would be more inclined to book 3 and 4 hours if there was some kind of discount to do so.  Idk, maybe 1,200 for 3hrs and 1,500 for 4 hrs.  Just my .02.

If I lived in NYC, I would charge the same as you, but I think I would do 2 hours for 1000, and 3 hours for only 1200. If your volume is where you want it, you're fine. If not, time to do some playing around with rates.  

Thanks Senator. I hear ya and thanks for sharing. I worked out a new system I will be putting up on my new site that is actually what you just stated for the most part with some new 'special' packages for a certain kind of gentleman looking for something quite inparticular.  

Yes

Thank you and terrific. Great response.

sorry i am late..your rates do look good..i would still offer a hourly rate of 600 that ties in with your 2 hour/1000 rate..i bet a lot of guys would love to see you at that rate and get to taste you for that hour yet still be affordable..i personally rarely book 2 hours unless she is extremely enticing and mysterious..you and Miss Cole fill that bill..an hourly rate to her would be insulting..other girls thrive on hourly dates and avoid multi-hour appointments..some will not do overnights under any circumstances..in the end..it is completely up to you and what you are comfortable with..

New to the "active" side of the hobby, but have been analyzing it for some time (I am actually an analyst IRL). The business aspect of it is particularly interesting to me in an academic sense (while the sex is VERY interesting to me in a completely different sense!).

I know of many ladies who do quite well with no website.

cast in stone. I usually spend a minimum of 3 but have spent as much as 4.5 for an hour. The upper range has to be a repeat when I know the sparks will fly.  

"necessary" = no
"helpful" = most likely yes

I'd expect more in terms of openness to activities not apparent in your reviews.

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Best I can do is 90 min at 750 right now as I reconfigure everything. New photos and rates went thru on my P411 til my site is up and running. And yes, I'm pretty sure I will be designing a new one, just need to find the time amongst my crazy 'personal life' schedule, not this gig. So keep an eye out for it in the next 2 weeks.  

which is reflected in my rates. Like I have stated before, most clients are at least 1.5 hrs away...add that plus the extra time and expenses involved and yes, my rates are more than fair in my opinion.

I don't see anyone under 700, usually 1000 but what may seem 'quite vanilla' to you in the reading of a few reviews is really irrelevant on what happens behind closed doors with any gentleman. If you honestly believe that 'all' is stated and spelled out for every single gentleman to read, you are only fooling yourself. Most of the men I have seen, don't write reviews as we discuss it is not our thing. So, I wouldn't put too much stock into the review system alone. Sometimes, you just have to go with what you like and simply 'go for it'.

That was so insightful and helpful..thank you