Obviously she feels comfortable with you, and you enjoy her company, what's wrong with that. It's possible that all she wants is just a few select clients or maybe she really does like you and sees a potential meaningful relationship with you. After all she is a woman capable of falling in love. I would suggest taking it slow one step at a time and see where it takes you, unless you do not want a relationship with her or you already have a SO or Wife. Its my opinion.
I recently saw a new provider that I "think" we hit it off great together. I found her with the agency I've used before. After our date, she gave me her cell number to call her directly to set up future dates together outside of the agency. A few days later she texts me a new cell phone number because she says she needed to change it. Is there ANYTHING that I need to be watchful or concerned about by dating her outside of the agency? I really do enjoy being with her and I feel that she does too. Please advise...
Obviously she feels comfortable with you, and you enjoy her company, what's wrong with that. It's possible that all she wants is just a few select clients or maybe she really does like you and sees a potential meaningful relationship with you. After all she is a woman capable of falling in love. I would suggest taking it slow one step at a time and see where it takes you, unless you do not want a relationship with her or you already have a SO or Wife. Its my opinion.
If by date, you mean civie dating, no harm no foul.
If by dating you mean booking with her directly and still paying...
basically she is trying to fuck the agency.
She works for the agency, where the agency does her advertising, screening, pays for her pics, pays for the incall if they have it, etc.
In exchange for that she pays the agency a percentage of each appointment.
What she is trying to do with you, is let the agency get the client (you) through the advertising, let the agency do the screening, and then once she decides you are good or safe client wants to cut them out of the deal.
It isn't that you "hit it off" or she really likes you, it's that she she knows you are a safe client (thanks to the agency) and now doesn't want to pay the agency anymore for finding you for her.
What's wrong with that?
Well, if she wants to get her own clients, then let her put her own time and money into ads, and screening, and finding the clients, getting an incall, getting photos done, etc....
if she doesn't want to do that, then she should accept the agreement she made with the agency.
That she wants to use them for the services they provide but then fuck them out of their cut, says a lot about her as a person.
Down sides for you...
if she will fuck over the agency what makes you think she would deal fairly with you?
That and if the agency finds out you took her number and didn't use their service to see her, you may want to hope you never want to see any women from that agency ever again...
She may or may not enjoy her time with you, but what she is wanting is more of your money.
Also, keep in mind in the event she does fuck you over, you don't have the same recourse as through the agency, it's not like you can go to them and complain since you and she both went behind their backs to cut them out of the business deal they set up.
Thx WebT, I am trusting my instincts and believe you are right. She knows I am married. She told me she trusts me after our first date..duh (I was screened)! We did have a great time on that note. But since I am a newbie, and I really like that agency, I want to keep the agency's respect. As far as a date, I did make one in the near future without going through the agency. I believe this is a bad idea. Should I be honest about my feelings and concerns with her about staying with the company and continue our planned date but book it through the agency? I appreciate your help greatly. Bluedragon, I do appreciate your opinion, too.
that is tough, you don't want to upset her, as you like your time with her...
but you don't want the agency to find out and blacklist you.
Maybe tell her you would feel more comfortable going through the agency, since that is how you met her, and that you want to honor what you see as your agreement with them.
You might also, say since you are married, you would feel more comfortable with the agency as it keeps it business and keeps you from blurring any lines. You could add that being new to this "hobby" you need that extra reminder of business, as you are here to have fun not ruin your life.
Even if that excuse isn't true, she would have to be a special kind of cold bitch to tell you risk your private life anyway.
Again great ideas WebT. I didn't get the impression she would be a cold bitch to push me to that end. I think she will be ok with it because she wouldn't want to lose me as a client either. But my feeling is, if she knows I'm not comfortable and still she is persistent to play outside the agency, then it's not worth it and the agency has many other fine women, some of whom I have met before and wasn't pressured. If she says no thanks, I will move on. I value the agency's respect and great service they have given me. I will give you guys follow up. Thanks
It also depends what quality agency it is. A few do a decent service for the providers and DO promote them, screen for them, etc.
Trouble is from my experience they don't do that well. Especially the screening. I've seen a few agency gals when the only "screening" was did I have the cash.
Also a question of the split. Some agencies give the women a fair share but lots of them prey upon new providers who think a $50 share (or less) to the provider is "the industry standard" and get rightly pissed when they find out they are being ripped off.
Too hard to tell from what you said what the case is here but you probably do have to decide which you are willing to risk, your relationship with her or with the agency. Usually I"d choose the provider but not always.
This statement says it all.
If by dating you mean booking with her directly and still paying...
basically she is trying to fuck the agency.
Her skimming clients from the agency will certainly be frowned on & might get her fired or hurt. Some providers do work indie plus agency... but skimming agency clients is probably not welcome.
There was a thread a while ago about a provider who wanted to date a client... he took her shopping, bought meals for her & GFs, there was no play time included!!
These ladies could get Oscars!! You have no idea what is in their pretty little heads! If you should decide to direct meet, be sure what you are bargaining for.
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She is using the agency to do her initial screening and booking and then stealing their customers. Is that right? Well, what do you think? Does it happen? Sure, all the time. Possible consequences? Well, she could be gone from the biz next week and you will be calling that agency again looking for a new girl. If they figure out what was going on you may get blacklisted from the agency.
Common sense and intuition prevails. I see the value of TER now. Thank you. Now, how do I deal with the provider? Offer to still see her on the agency clock?
I would tell her that you simply don't feel comfortable going behind your regular agency's back. Let her know that if she ever decides to go indie that you would love to see her in that capacity as well.
Honestly, if she continues on her present course she will probably be an indie sooner than she expected anyway...
If this is how you feel, I would also tell her that you have enjoyed your time with her and would enjoy continuing to see her if she were to work with another agency or as an indie. However, you also wish to respect the role the agency plays for her while she works for that agency.
Follow up note: We had another date. She was fine with my decision to stay with the agency. We did less talk talk and more fun fun (thx for that advice Meena). Thanks everyone!