If i meet her in the lobby of a hotel and we have a drink, then go to the room for fun, when did that hour start? When i got the drink? When we left the bar? When we got into the room?

Ask her, not us...

Every gal has a different approach to time spent not in the room.  For the sake of argument you should never assume that anything is off the clock.

unless she states that it's off the clock you should assume you're paying for her time.

Most ladies will ask for their full rate for drinks or meals.

I have only seen one website where the lady says she will meet for drinks off the clock.

Every provider is different. Some will start the minute you meet her in the bar. Others may start when you get to the room. If the ladies have reviews, look for the term "not a clock watcher" that normally means they take their time. It may also depend if you "click" with the provider. Remember these are ladies, and  you just never know.  You may be able to ask the question about time, as long as you don't mention anything about sex. Bottom line, pick your provider carefully.  good luck

Hmmmm depends on the provider on that one. I've been with girls where the moment you step into the room the sesion starts, and some girls the session wont start until they put the cover and start to blow.

However if the provider asks you do you want to have a drink first, chances are that's off the clock, and she maybe taking a breather and just wants to have some company with her.  I had a provider invite me down to the bar after our hour long session, because her roommate needed the room for 30mins. The session was hot, and we both had a lot of chemistry going, so we decided to hang out for 40mins just chatting while her friend had a session.

I would assume if I have never met with the lady before, that the clock has started once we meet...be it in the lobby, bar or room.  Every lady has their own agenda, and you don't know if she has another commitment after yours.  If you sit around for 45 minutes chatting in the bar with a drink, I would certainly be prepared for only a short (and quick) session.  I have asked ladies AFTER a session if they are interested in drinks (or lunch/dinner).  If they take me up on that, I make sure it is understood that this is off the clock (But I always pay for a meal!!).  Remember to ask the question so there are no misunderstandings.

Her time is her time...if it's going like that it starts when when ya'll sit for the drink? But depends on the lady.... some might not start the clock if you will until you two get naked.

The premise here is you are paying for time.. we all know that is a bit simplistic, but that is the difference between an upscale provider and a "menu" provider, bathhouse, or corner/CL girl. Some gents actually value time spent out to eat with an attractive and intelligent woman and the date experience as much as the actual moment engaged in sex. If one wants to pay for sex acts they should seek a provider who approaches it that way. (Not a bash on the question, as I too am unsure what that particular case implies, just a statement of fact for those who would think that time should be counted only when "the cover is on" or active sex is occurring).

For example, most providers make clear they don't promise any sex acts, time is time, and her time, the time it took to prepare her appearance and body for that time, the childcare she may be paying for, mileage and time on the car to get there, parking cost, etc. is all still time and she has factored all that in. Now, most providers do take into account, if outcall, that they will spend 15-30 minutes each way driving and that is NOT on the clock, but when you two are together, it's generally on the clock unless otherwise specified. Now however, in that context, a provider usually assumes the gent will control the time to some extent and the session can be shaped by his wishes as far as ratio of conversation to getting out of the room to playtime.. but for something like a dinner date or event date, you cannot just book that and say, by the way, I want a dinner date but not dinner, because most glas will be exhausted and claustrophobic and starving in a hotel room for 4 hours without a meal lol-- most gals do not offer the option of dates longer than 2-3 hours without an intended interlude of some kind, and most gents cannot physically perform for that long anyways, so it only makes sense.

Now, if someone specifies that she commonly starts her appointments with meeting for drinks and chatting, which I guess I have not seen except maybe IN the hotel room, generally a first time client will have a few minute get to know you before anything happens, but it's kind of assumed, not described as, "first we'll have drinks and talk" ya know? It just seems natural, though.. but if she meets *outside* the hotel room, she may be sizing you up/getting comfortable, and it's kinda unclear whether it's on or off clock, but I agree to *always* assume on the clock/included (i.e. if you book an hour to start at 5pm, meet in lobby at 5pm, the date is booked likely from 5-6 unless stated otherwise, right? Otherwise how would such a provider/client determine the time to schedule, length wise and start and end time expected?

Now, most quality providers will, for example, not count "to the minute," if you are getting close she will likely want to make sure you get off before leaving, if possible (but again, YMMV) or if she is late or forgot a requested outfit or something she may want to make it up with some extra time, things like that. If you really hit it off and she is free after you may choose to ask her to join you for a meal or something, making clear the intent- offer to pay the rate for her time, and/or clarify you mean as friends/treat her to dinner. Sometimes with a regular, I have had a meal after or extended the session up to half an hour to an hour, sometimes even a new client it winds up going over, but with being part time and pretty busy, there are also times where I have to be reasonably strict about ensuring I leave within 10-15 minutes of the scheduled end time. The provider definitely needs to be in control of this aspect though, asking for extra time or getting upset if one doesn't get it is no good either.

Point is, never assume more than the *time* you paid for is to be spent with the companion in question-- once you two are spending time together you have started your date.. but if she has a unique policy like always starting outside the room with drinks, it's probably fair to ask discreetly or read reviews to see if clues are given. I don't know the answer for sure on that one, just more general examples of how most providers and hobby community view the "clock" with a non-menu or upsell provider.

thanks for the tips!