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what would it prove?
Raceday21 7 Reviews 2485 reads
posted
1 / 25

New at all this.....a bit apprehensive....any providers that would be willing to share STD test results if I go through the verification process?  PM me if you like.  Thank you.

-- Modified on 8/8/2012 2:45:21 PM

Naomi_Sweets See my TER Reviews 840 reads
posted
2 / 25

I get tested on a regular basis myself, but I know that some STD's have a six month incubation period.  

What would my showing you my test results prove?  It would prove that at the time the test was done, I was clean, it doesn't mean I didn't have sex an hr after my test with someone who wasn't clean.

Having a provider show you that she tests regular is not proof that she is clean at the time of your session.

Best thing to do is play safe - everything covered and get yourself tested at least twice a year.

swimtrekr 59 Reviews 776 reads
posted
3 / 25

The consensus of it was that what you are wanting to do would not go over very well with providers.  Suggest you read that thread.

Swim

crazyshit 723 reads
posted
4 / 25

And the whole notion that everyone gets tested regularly is kind of silly, too.  I can't speak for everyone, only myself and the providers I know.

Most people don't get tested that regularly--maybe once a year, or maybe when they have engaged in risky activity (like hooking up with that civvie on that drunken bender the night before and not using a condom).

If you try to do the "let's share test results" approach, prepare to get hung up on.

Not saying it's a bad idea.  Just saying that it NEVER happens here.

Legsman321 654 reads
posted
5 / 25

I don't understand the logic behind your statement.

Posted By: crazyshit
And the whole notion that everyone gets tested regularly is kind of silly, too.  I can't speak for everyone, only myself and the providers I know.

Most people don't get tested that regularly--maybe once a year, or maybe when they have engaged in risky activity (like hooking up with that civvie on that drunken bender the night before and not using a condom).

If you try to do the "let's share test results" approach, prepare to get hung up on.

Not saying it's a bad idea.  Just saying that it NEVER happens here.

harborview 10 Reviews 582 reads
posted
6 / 25

Testing is great...  if neither party has during the meantime.  Otherwise, as was correctly stated above, only means they were clean at the time of the test.  

crazyshit 632 reads
posted
7 / 25

Providers aren't going to the doctor twice or three times a year to get tested for STDs.  They may say they do, but they don't.

And most people in this city don't.

Legsman321 613 reads
posted
8 / 25

Okay, I think I understand your point now. Although I still think it's a good idea for everyone to get tested regularly, I have to agree with you that it's probably not going to happen.

nahtynikkey See my TER Reviews 606 reads
posted
9 / 25

2-3 times per year? Try 4-5 times a year, every 2-3 months like clockwork. What some do not understand, it that this is our livelihood & having something & NOT knowing, and passing it along to others, would most likely ruin our provider "career". A very large number of ladies get tested regularly, so not sure what city you are in, or what kind of "ladies" you are frequenting, but normal testing, is the norm, not the minority.

Posted By: crazyshit
Providers aren't going to the doctor twice or three times a year to get tested for STDs.  They may say they do, but they don't.

And most people in this city don't.

Legsman321 622 reads
posted
10 / 25

Once STD becomes epidemic, it would be a lot more risky for any kind of sexual encounter. Nobody will be safe. Read the thread in GD.

crazyshit 641 reads
posted
11 / 25

Posted By: Legsman321
Okay, I think I understand your point now. Although I still think it's a good idea for everyone to get tested regularly, I have to agree with you that it's probably not going to happen.

crazyshit 730 reads
posted
12 / 25

As for me, I see the doctor every few months for a chronic condition that runs in my family called diabetes.  

I live in NYC, and I am just reflecting what I know and have seen.

crazyshit 629 reads
posted
13 / 25

I am merely saying that regular testing does not occur as frequently as we would like to believe.  

That's just been my experience.  That in no way invalidates anyone else's.

Legsman321 628 reads
posted
14 / 25

I think it's more likely to catch something in civilian dating and pass it on to providers rather than the other way around. It does make sense for providers to get tested so they can get treatment as early as possible. It's not only good business practice. It may save your live. Of course, I am not talking about low end providers on BP so majority of them probably are not getting tested. :( Scary thought. More reasons not to look for fun on BP.

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 636 reads
posted
15 / 25

Posted By: crazyshit
Providers aren't going to the doctor twice or three times a year to get tested for STDs.  They may say they do, but they don't.

And most people in this city don't.
Scary. I think you might be making some incorrect assumptions here, but maybe I am just not privy to the kinds of providers you're seeing. It would be professional suicide to get careless and not get tested regularly. So many STDs don't have very noticeable symptoms (some are merely flu-like: exhaustion, headache, etc., which are barely noticeable in high-stress lifestyles/cities), so you and your questionable friends could be passing stuff back and forth all the time...

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 700 reads
posted
16 / 25
JeffEng16 22 Reviews 848 reads
posted
17 / 25

you can just google/bing the disease or std testing CDC and you'll come up with the recs for appropriate testing frequency. Sex cannot be made risk free but it can be made awfully safe so that your worries/concerns are minimal, and there are plenty of threads here on that.  There is no point in over frequently testing when you're asymptomatic even for  Chlamydia which is predominantly asymptomatic as I tried to make clear on that thread you linked.

It's not feasible to get other people who you don't know well, with whom you're having an encounter the first time or even repeat times with whom you have no other relationship, to share their medical tests or history, and importantly there are windows of incubation for all of these diseases and as Naomi_Sweets pointed out on a thread earlier. Even if someone tested recently, then had sex with someone else subsequently there is always a period of incubation, and there could be a period of incubation depending on the disease that was not finished when they tested recently. For HIV for example, it can be 4-6 weeks to 6 months and the CDC recommends testing anually for it.  For Chlamydia it's about 3 weeks. The vast majority of  providers in the hobby are by and large pretty well educated, knowledgable, smart, and practical about keeping themselves safe and their partners safe.  They can't account for the concommitant civie sex of clients though, and the civie sex of the providers and the collective history of everyone anyone has sex with is in the equation as well.

-- Modified on 8/9/2012 1:21:28 AM

crazyshit 724 reads
posted
18 / 25

Posted By: Legsman321
I think it's more likely to catch something in civilian dating and pass it on to providers rather than the other way around. It does make sense for providers to get tested so they can get treatment as early as possible. It's not only good business practice. It may save your live. Of course, I am not talking about low end providers on BP so majority of them probably are not getting tested. :( Scary thought. More reasons not to look for fun on BP.

crazyshit 825 reads
posted
19 / 25

But many providers in NYC do not have health insurance.  In fact, many people in NYC in general don't have health insurance, and many providers who do this are doing this because it is a sort of "last resort" as opposed to having another career that provides insurance and doing this on the side.

Most of the people I know who lack insurance simply do not go to the doctor very often, and so the only other means of testing would really be via free clinics.  It just hasn't been my experience that providers are going to get tested at free clinics for STDs several times a year.  Now, I cannot PROVE this, but if and when the question arises as to when you were last tested, what you often hear is a pat "Oh, I got tested a few months ago."  Which to me at times seems like a standard answer and maybe a canned one, because over the course of time, you find out more about each others' personal lives.

I only see high-end providers and if I venture into the $200 range, those are bodyrub-only girls.  If I am partaking in escorts, these are $400+ women, and mostly $500+ providers.  So I am not playing in the low-budget ones that advertise in Backpage.  

And like I said, I have a chronic medical condition (diabetes) which means regular trips to the doc and getting bloodwork done every few months.

Your points are well-taken, but please don't make assumptions about me and my "questionable friends," as I have not passed any judgment on you, Sarah.  That kind of comment is uncalled for.

crazyshit 617 reads
posted
20 / 25
Legsman321 556 reads
posted
21 / 25

I think I am going to get myself tested today (my last test was 2 months ago). LOL Peace of mind is priceless to me.

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 697 reads
posted
22 / 25

making assumptions. But maybe you're making an assumption that escorts don't get tested at free clinics. Back in CA where I lived prior to this, many of us got tested at the free clinics because you could get tested anonymously. This is not possible at your own doctor's office or even at Planned Parenthood.

You're right that lack of health insurance is a problem (actually, the problem is lack of health care- there are non-insurance options available), but with free clinics it isn't an issue.

But you bring up an alarming reality. Should make us even more diligent. We can't control what anyone does but ourselves, and I can continue to get tested every 3 months. ;)

Once again, I'm sorry for having offended you. It wasn't my intention. I just can't imagine a high-end provider being so blasé about her health. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio...

But I still think they are questionable. I don't care if they charge $5000 an hour. They're affecting everyone's health.

Posted By: crazyshit
But many providers in NYC do not have health insurance.  In fact, many people in NYC in general don't have health insurance, and many providers who do this are doing this because it is a sort of "last resort" as opposed to having another career that provides insurance and doing this on the side.

Most of the people I know who lack insurance simply do not go to the doctor very often, and so the only other means of testing would really be via free clinics.  It just hasn't been my experience that providers are going to get tested at free clinics for STDs several times a year.  Now, I cannot PROVE this, but if and when the question arises as to when you were last tested, what you often hear is a pat "Oh, I got tested a few months ago."  Which to me at times seems like a standard answer and maybe a canned one, because over the course of time, you find out more about each others' personal lives.

I only see high-end providers and if I venture into the $200 range, those are bodyrub-only girls.  If I am partaking in escorts, these are $400+ women, and mostly $500+ providers.  So I am not playing in the low-budget ones that advertise in Backpage.  

And like I said, I have a chronic medical condition (diabetes) which means regular trips to the doc and getting bloodwork done every few months.

Your points are well-taken, but please don't make assumptions about me and my "questionable friends," as I have not passed any judgment on you, Sarah.  That kind of comment is uncalled for.

crazyshit 581 reads
posted
23 / 25

At best I am making an educated guess.  I don't hang out or live with the providers in question so there is no way I know everything about their lives.  

But just going by what I know and can gather, I just do not believe the testing across the population of providers is as prevalent as it is in your case.

I lived in CA for a long time, as well.

Thanks.  Be well.  Stay safe.

ziggy440 84 Reviews 584 reads
posted
24 / 25

Actually means "it is none of your business." While I may not agree that this is none of your business, I do know that many ladies have things they share and most other things they just deflect.

In any case, it does not make a lot of sense that most established, high end, providers do not get tested regularly, nor does it agree with my experience. I have been with ladies who did not seem to care much about safety, but most of the better ones are damned close to obsessive about safety. After all, they have a livelihood at risk, a business they have worked to build, if they screw that up.

zig

crazyshit 593 reads
posted
25 / 25

No one is gonna give you a verifiable answer.

I just feel that the world has looked at STDs very differently than it did in the early 90s, when it was a death sentence.

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