I am retired at the moment but only because I was lucky enough to find a benefactor to take me in because I was at my wits end with the situation I was in. I was working at $60 for an hour and when I started I was getting 140 because if i asked for any more I wouldnt get any calls mainly due to the bad reviews I have here I would think and maybe my weight (BBW). I wasnt getting quality clients and only getting guys new to hobby I guess you could day just looking for the cheapest thing they could find. Got flaked on all the time had ppl who wouldn't even see me because I wouldn't say yes to a certain sex act "bbbj" agree to even do one at all just all sorts of bullshit because they didnt know how to act when making an appointment. But I'm not a bad looking BBW heres some pix that were taken at the end of Aug.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mindi0massages

It probably wasnt doing me any favors that I was living paying by the week in a budget motel in fairly bad area but it was all I could afford and at $60 did they really expect it to me the ritz carlton. But because my rates drooped I drooped my service too and rushed ppl out the door. I used to give a body rub and taste and then get down to the good part but just to make ends meet I was doing an assembly line having the guys only stay like 20-30 min. But if they really wanted an hour I would have them give me 100 and give them a body rub and stuff like I used too.  

The last few months I was working I was still working at 60 but I used fake pix of more slender girls and form what Ive heard I'm really hated and talked about in the mens only board. And Ive tried to start over by changing my name and phone number but my profiles got linked up.

I really would like to keep going and come back but only do FBSM since I went to school for it (massage). I wouldnt mind offering GFE too if I could get a higher rate for it.

Should I just consider myself done or is there any way to recover from this horrible mess I've made for myself in the industry?

Staying in the same place for weeks is a bad idea for a number of reasons.

1) If you stay in the same room at the same hotel, people (i.e., guys you've seen) will know there's someone in there with cash and may rob you.

2) The longer you stay in the same hotel, the more likely hotel staff or the police are to take note of your activity.

3) Moving from town to town gives a fresh customer base access to your services every week or so.  Most guys hobby for the variety.

... fresh start, but there will be people who will never forgive no matter how hard you try to make amends.

Some people are just vindictive because that makes them feel good inside. You'll get those kinds of people in TER and other websites. You need to accept that fact.

Once you do, then you can market yourself as a BBW. There guys out there that prefer BBW over other body types.

Be patient and take it one day at a time.

Good luck!

Serpius

You've got a couple of bad reviews...  maybe even a little harsh.  But the majority of your reviews are "average".  I think you can come back from this but it'll take work.  

You are heavy to BBW.  Don't deny it.  There are clients for every body type.  Guys will go to BBW IF they are getting good services.  A great O is the best thing to raise your scores.   DO watch your weight.  You are already BBW.  It may not be possible to lose a lot of weight but try hard to not gain any.  For your health & your income.

The link I'm including is more for GFs but worthy of a look.  http://www.handjobadvice.com/  Experiment to find the best lube, it makes a difference.  Learn how to push a guy forward with more pressure and then a different technique or looser grip or off the head & onto the shaft more before going back.  Most guys can'rt stand more than a couple of these cool offs.

There is information on BJs too.  I like the stuff from cosmo...  the women's site.  Learn to enjoy pleasing a man.  Get some mouthwash.  If you don't like CIM...  it's still going to happen sometimes.  Are you don't to spoil it for the guy?  If you want him back you won't.  You can spit it out.  You can use mouthwash after.   Keep your hand around his penis near the end & slide your wet hand with your mouth.  Use the pressure of your hand too.  

In either a HJ or BJ, do NOT stop until he's empty.  Certainly don't take your hand away.  If you explode gunpowder in the open air, it just makes a pop.  If you put it in a gun barrel, you get a BANG.  Your hands are the gun barrel.  You want him to feel the BANG!

For gosh sakes...  be squeaky clean.  It is hard when you are heavy.  You might need to shower a couple of extra times a day.  

Stop rushing.  Hide a clock you can see but give the full agreed time.  No TV.  Music is good to cover sounds.  I liked the gal who had a boom box...  aimed at the door.  Not too lound but enough to cover sounds.  The bed was much quieter.  

Do you like guys?  The best providers, no matter what their service level, get a pleasure out of pleasing the guy.  If you don't you'll not make it in the business.

One of my Favorites is a FBSM provider.  She gets 100 for a nice massage, exquisite HJ & a shared shower.  She's not young & sexy but she has incredible hands.

Another Favorite lady is also FBSM provider...  with extras once she gets to know you up to GFE & FS.  The Massage w/ HJ (Happy Ending) is 100.  She refuses to discuss extras (for fear of being set up) but she makes it clear she expects a nice tip.  
HV

Should I change my name or keep the same one Ive been using. My phone number I was using for the past year has been cut so if I do come back its going to be different.

all the time. If you want to escape your past, disappear. I would not announce I am looking to come back as the same person...just do it, and don't say a word lol. I know several high end providers who also have an average rate on the side with a totally different persona, and agencies often do this too. I would market yourself in a different manner altogether and focus more on FBSM vs. gfe like HH stated.

There is no reason for a guy to hate you if you have not A. Stalked him, B. Ripped him off, or C. Tried to Blackmail him for a good review. That nonsense about your past not being forgiven is only reserved for those who are seriously NUTS and prove so over and over. Bait and Switch is a big one with the guys, so use your pictures and see what you get off of that. No need to show your face if you don't want to be recognized as the same person though.

You are not even a regular poster on the boards til this week, so just poof....disappear and then come back in another town as someone else, but you will have to work for the reviews again.

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It's not easy being a provider.  You need to bring your A game every single time.  Yes, GFE should be higher rate than FBSM.  
I can get an honest massage from a LMT for $60/hr in a medical office with NO happy ending (typically a HJ).  
As I posted earlier I get FBSM for $100 with exquisite HJ finish & a shard shower of wash the oil off.
GFE should be a all inclusive price but 2x (or more) the rate of a FBSM.  You do have an issue with your weight/look.  
I would use your time away to up your skills.

I would rename your new self & new menu & rates if you decide to come back.  Expect that you'll get your profiles linked but that's not a problem after time away.  You might use different names for different services  Massage vs GFE.   I'd start back with just massage.  FBSM.  Try to eat right & get yourself in shape...  it'll be harder if you go back to providing.  Unless you can excercise in your room, you can't very well gert dressed & go jogging or such in the middle of a working day.  

Unfortunately, local providers will likely see you as competition.  Through TER you might get a gal to mentor you.

There is a market for every body type but BBW, it's harder to get the same price.  Pardon the expression, but you've got to blow their socks off.  You've got to give the best POP that the guy has ever had.  Going in, looks count...  but when the action starts...  it's performace that counts.  A Ferrari with a crappy engine doesn't perform!   There is no reason that your skills can't be the best in town.  
HV


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Most of them are weight based. If you state"BBW" guys should expect a bigger girl. I personally would love to avail myself of your services. In fact many of the. Mentioned your bubbly personality. What else could a guy ask for, a great tuggy from someone with a great attitude.

Now if you also added in some topless rundowns you might generate even more traffic.

Good luck.

Hi, I am brand new at this myself and didn't read this post but did read your other. Anyway I would like to give you a little advice if you like. I'm going to e-mail you at the address on your ter profile... hope  that's ok. Please don't start providing again just yet. And good luck

No e-mail? Do you happen to have pm privileges?

I dont think it works anymore. But u can email me at [email protected]

My point... All these reviews were written when I was using real pix. They mainly say shes "cheap because fat but shes nice" Or just a total rag on my size witch shouldn't be allowed they knew coming in I wasnt petite but they still felt the need to criticize about it in the review there was one review that I saw from awhile ago he gave his review then gave his twocents about the guys that bashed me because of my size its not there anymore and I didnt ask for it to be pulled.

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i have tons of other emails but i dont think the one thats on my profile is used anymore I have the email [email protected] that you can talk to me with

OP has a post on her local board looking for a mentor.  A good move & kudos to her for wanting & trying to improve.
Best wishes,
HV

Just be yourself.  You can't be all things to all people, and if you deceive others so that you hope we will book and then just begrudgingly go through with the session, it will come back to bite you in the ass.  Be upfront, and market yourself as you are.  The right guys will see you.

Now, it may be that you won't be able to make as much money as you hoped, but that's better than being smashed on the boards and then being unable to work at all.  Guys in this business can be very spiteful when they feel they got taken, and there's always a psycho or two who will go out of his way to make an example of a girl.'

You are going to be a very specialized kind of girl.  Most guys want very slender or very fit, and you have a different niche.  You won't find that every guy likes you, and unfortunately, because this is a business about money and putting a monetary value on your looks and services...well, you have to get your head around that.  It might be that you can only command a dollar amount that is less than you feel is worth it, and you have to accept it or move on.  If you don't and you try to deceive, then you will ruin your rep.

What are you honestly expecting now?

Lower my rates because I'm bigger.....

The average on Backpage is 100 I was asking 60 and getting scum guys low ballers hagglers flakes prankers etc because I was going under market and coming off as cheap and desperate and started hating the hobby and I turned into a bitch witch shouldnt have happened. I'm sorry but you seem to be the kind of guy I used to deal with that no matter how cheap I was it was never low enuf because I was bigger. I know I did wrong but please get off my threads telling me how I should do things when you have a mentality of "pantie size is equalivalent to rate" when I have seen BBW providers ask for 200-300 PLUS I know I can to if I'm on my shit . If I was to escort again but I did go to massage school and when I get active again Im going going to do FBSM even tho there are some providers who can get 200 for that as well. Open your eyes and realize that size should not equal to rate when there are men out there who will pay for me just the same as someone who looks like a porn star. I just wish I had realized that sooner. Your a grown man so you will probably never change the way you think and guys like you are the kind I'm going to weed out and not see and will hear a dial tone or get a door to the  face when you try to lowball me because you think I'm disparate because I'm big like I cant do any better then the peanuts you will try to offer me but again please do not come into my threads again telling me I need to cheap because Im bigger. Look where it got me....

I think you need to re-read my posts.  You wanted advice, so I gave it.  I've been hobbying for over two decades across two coasts.  I think I know the market fairly well, but if you think you know it better, then do it your way.  But since you are asking ME for my advice, well, I gave it to you.

You are a niche provider.  In general, guys aren't looking for BBWs.  Sorry if that hurts to hear, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles.  BBWs have a harder time getting guys to pay market rates, whatever that may be.

Did I explicitly say to lower your rates?  No.  You decided that you read that in my post.  I have no idea what you charged before, and what you charge now.  Your post is all over the place.  All I can make from your post is that you posted before, you charged some rate, you got some lackluster/shitty reviews, and now you are wondering how to correct that problem.

Guys want the truth.  That's all I said.  Don't be posting fake pics.  We don't give a shit about fake pics or indicative pics.  Because the truth is that there is, more often than not, some degree of disappointment between pics and real life (the girl usually looks less attractive in real life).  Now, most guys who have been doing this understand this and accept this.

But if you look nothing like your pics and we show up, what do you expect us to do?  Just go through with the session?  We might because we have no other options at that point, but if you are naive enough to think that a guy isn't gonna express his disappointment at being fooled, you are just plain crazy.  And yet that's exactly what you did.

The truth of the matter is that no one wants to hear that they are worth only this much money.  It sucks when you're talking about your job and how much money your company pays you, and it sure as fuck sucks when it comes down to selling/renting your body by the hour to make some money.  But that's the way it goes.  I know one girl in NJ who thinks she is worth $500/hour, but if she looked at herself versus the girls who do successfully charge $500/hour, she is way off market.  That's not to be mean...it's just the facts.

Before you start telling me that the average on Backpage is $100, you better start giving me photographic examples of what a $100 girl looks like.  Because a girl who is more desirable physically is gonna be able to charge more.  That much should be clear.

If you are unhappy with getting $60, then charge more.  If you aren't getting business above $60, then you are off market.  It's really that simple.  I don't know what else to tell you.

As for your allegation that I'm like those guys that lowballed you...you are insane.  I don't even know you.  I have no dog in this fight, and I'm just giving you my two cents as a guy who has reviewed a lot of providers and who is pretty familiar with how this works.

If you think you can charge more, then just do it.  You don't need to prove anything to me.  But if you are gonna come on this board, complain and ask for advice, then don't bitch when someone gives you advice.

But I'll tell you one thing...the biggest turnoff I see here isn't your own warped view of your weight and figure.  It's your shitty attitude.  No guy wants to be with a girl who not only is unhappy with herself, but manifests that by taking it out on the client who is paying.

this part of your previous post.  

"It might be that you can only command a dollar amount that is less than you feel is worth it, and you have to accept it or move on. "

I also thought you were saying she should be ready to lower her rates, which looked weird, considering the rest of your posts were more supportive.

Here's the context...

From what I can read from her meandering post...she charged one rate, then didn't get enough business or something, and then lowered her rate, but then felt like she wasn't getting the right clientele, because they became cheapskates in that target range.

My post also told her to specify what she wanted to get out of it.  For example, if she wants to hit a bogey/target of $300, then $60 is what she needs to charge if she wants to do that with five clients.  Or she can charge $100 and see three clients.

But the market might be lower than $100.  She keeps moaning that other BP girls charge $200 or whatever, so she should be able to charge $200 or something similar.  Um, not necessarily.  She didn't post pics or ads of the other girls charging (and presumably getting) $200.  I don't want to be the Simon Cowell of TER and tell her that she just isn't worth $200, but even in NYC, where the higher cost of living lifts all ships (so to speak), she isn't gonna command $200 for a FBSM here.  I could point to a lot of other girls who are charging and getting $200 for nude FBSM/mutual touching, and she isn't competitive here.

I would presume that NYC has higher rates than VA, so if that's the case, it goes to follow that she is overpriced in VA.  Plus, she already told us that she wasn't getting business at $100, so not sure why she thinks that she can get more than that.

The general statement I made was that she needs to realize that she can command some dollar amount.  Maybe she feels she's worth more, and if that's the case...well, she's never gonna be happy.

There is a provider I know here who thinks she is worth $500/hour.  Sorry, girl, but $500/hour gets me Ashley Ann Taylor or Alexandra Hill when she visits from Denver.  Not sure why I should settle for her average self when I can get much better for that money.

And guess what?  The girl who thinks she is worth $500/hour also has the same attitude I'm seeing here from this OP.

I don't wanna be Simon Cowell here, but it's pretty clear to me that her business model is broken.

thank u ....

I live in San Diego not New York or Virginia I was born in New York City but moved here when I was two I wouldn't ever want to live there too hassle and bustle for me. I theres bigger girls then me charging more then $60 witch tells me I can too but my reveiws here suck and its making the guys that will pay what I am worth not want to see me because the guys that have the kind of money come here look at my reviews then dont want to see me so as stated in the first post of my thread I'm getting the bottle of the barrel guys the cheap young guys or the guys new to the hobby that dont even know about review boards that are just looking for the cheapest pussy they can find and have a reason to need to pay for it - because theyre cheap assholes that have no clue how to treat women and think all escorts are nothing but skanky ass hoes and I got tired of the bullshit because I know I shouldnt have to live and be treated the way I was. Hence the reason why I made the thread in the first place to ask for help and guidance witch I have already gotten for the most part so you even saying anything in this thread was unnecessary and you saying or whatever and this and that tells me that you really didnt read my posting too much and really get the whole point of it. So until you can do that stay off my threads.

Your business plan isn't working.  That much is clear.  So is the whining aspect of your post.

You charged one rate.  You didn't get it.  You lowered your rates.  You got a different type of clientele, and you hated that.  And then your attitude got shitty (so you say).  And then you got some bad reviews.  And then you used fake pics of a skinnier girl to get guys to come and book with you, and then were surprised that business dried up.

Does it take a genius to figure out that your gameplan didn't work?  Seriously.

Let me just make these points really clear again, because you are getting worked up for exactly the reasons I was afraid you would be:

1.  Weight isn't the only factor in determining price.  Your figure makes a difference.  So does your face.  If a girl is heavier than you but has bigger tits, she might be able to command more than you.  Guys might not wanna see a girl who is BBW but has C cups when they can see a girl who is a little bigger but has DDs.  It's not just weight alone.  I don't need to go into the face thing, which is totally subjective.

2.  What do you think escorting is about?  It's about one person paying for sex and the other providing it.  Nothing else.  Once you start reading into things like your value as a person and your self-worth and all that, it gets complicated.  And while that's natural to do so, if you constantly take this shit personally, this is NOT the field for you to be making money in.  Stop blaming others.  You can control what you can control, but you can't control how others look at you.  If you think you're worth more, then charge more.  But don't get bent if guys don't think you're worth as much as you think you are.

Like I said, unless you are showing the rest of us who you are comparing yourself to...your argument is potentially crazy.

This girl in NYC charges $220/hour and $160/half hour for bodyrub.  And I believe these are her real pics, because I have seen her many times:

http://newyork.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-pics-all-american-buxom-blonde-model-for-the-ultimate-nude-massage-charlie-25/24448223

This girl charges the same.  Her pics are real, but she is bigger than this in real life:

http://newyork.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-escape-all-nude-body-rub-by-36f-all-natural-busty-brunette-beauty-leslie-22/33940214

So you tell me...based on these prices, what do you think you should be able to charge?

No thats not what happened ur mixing up the order things to suit you and ur mindset because u want to try and have me think that because Im bigger I dont deserve good fair rates.  Its not gonna happen sorry Im not the insecure naive little BBW that thinks she cant get a decent fair income having sex for men for money that your trying to make be believe I should be still. Do u have a wife ? Im pretty sure you dont because u seem like a pretty shallow dick to me. I tried to be nice but uve pissed me off and I can only stay nice and sweet for so long....

Im only going to tell u this ONE MORE TIME and Im even going to put it in list (and hopefully idiot proff) format for you too

I started off as a FBSM provider and I was getting bad reviews because I was doing everything wrong and I thought it was because I was big why I slowed down so I lowered my rates to a point to where I counldnt sustain myslef anymore (this took about a year)

I got into escorting and brought my rates back up and the same thing happened

THATS WHEN I STARTED TO BE A BITCH AND HATE MY LIFE AND GET NOTHING BUT SCUM CLIENTS

So thats when I started useing fake pix sometime around mid September and took a few months for it to get around that my pix werent mine to the point I had no many flakes and ppl not calling that I had no choose to hit up my benefactors offer to take me in that he was wanting me to take since the day I met him.

Its obvi to me you have nothing constructive to say so just dont say anything else. (Even tho ur type is so ego-tistical and stubborn your still probably going to try and bring me down and say I dont deserve a fair rate because ur such a miserable lonely old coot this is how you need to make uself feel good about urself) But if you have ANY respect for me and my wishes you wont say anything else and just let this thread die.

All I see is you repeating the same thing:

1.  I did FBSM, then had to lower my rates.

2.  I did escort, then had to lower my rates.

You keep taking this personally, which is exactly why you should not be doing this.  The market out there will set a rate for you.  Whether you agree with that rate is totally irrelevant.  The fact is, you are not getting the rate you think is fair for yourself, and as a result, you are totally upset.  That's the whole gist of this post.  YOU THINK YOU ARE WORTH MORE THAN YOU ARE GETTING.  That's really it.  Everything else is just bullshit, and no matter how much you try to turn this around on me saying that I must be a terrible husband, etc., the bottom line is YOU ARE PISSED OFF BECAUSE YOU AREN'T GETTING WHAT YOU THINK YOU DESERVE.

Guess what?  That's not going to change.  You cannot command more money, because the market will not bear it.  I could go into the math as to how much time the average guy in your area has to work in order to afford an hour of your time, but facts don't seem to matter to you.  All that matters to you is that you have to bitch and moan about how you don't get a rate that you think YOU deserve, a rate that has no basis in reality whatsoever.

I've tried to be nice and stick to the points, too, but it's obvious that you are just want to bitch and moan.

Here's the truth.  Based on the pics on your Flickr link that you put up in the OP, there is no way you are going to command much money.  Sorry, you just aren't going to.  I won't get into why because you don't want to hear it.  I posted two links of girls who are charging $160 for the half hour and $220 for the hour for nude bodyrubs with mutual touching in NYC.  I'm pretty sure my market is priced higher than yours, so whatever your market is...those girls would command less.  How much less?  I dunno.

Charlie, the blonde, is basically as hot as Anna Nicole Smith.  Leslie, is not as hot in my book, but she is still fairly busy from what I know.  Those are two price points in the market.  You cannot possibly compare your pics to theirs and tell me that you think you are worth anywhere NEAR what those girls are.

Oh, and they don't have the shitty, whiny attitude you display here, either.  So knock some money off your price because we would need to listen to your bullshit, if that comes up in session.

If you have a benefactor and you have enough money, then why the fuck are you posting this?  Stay out of the business.  Clearly no one wants to see you.  The market has spoken.  You aren't worth what you want to charge.

Don't be a hater.  This is a brutal business.  The women who survive know that it is a transaction and don't take shit personally.

Maybe you should talk with some providers and see what they say.  I'm pretty sure they will give you the same advice I have.

My advice now?  Stick with your benefactor, and stay outta this business.  It's clear that it's not working.  And it won't work.  Not everyone can be an escort or masseuse.  You certainly should not be.

Where does this imply that she ought to lower her rates because of her weight?  It's a general claim; many providers, for various reasons, find that their idea of what they ought to be able to charge does not match the reality of what people are willing to pay.  It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with them, other than an unrealistic idea of what clients will pay them for their services.  It is quite true that in such cases, one can either accept it, or move on; there is no way you can compel the market to pay more than they are willing to pay.  You can set a price higher than people will pay, but you cannot compel them to purchase.

In reference to the rest of the thread:

You have been given a good deal of excellent advice.  It is unfortunate that you have chosen to focus exclusively on one point, a point you have interpreted in a highly tendentious manner.   It was not meant offensively, but having taken offense, it seems you are now bent on repeating that it must have been meant just the way you took it.  If this pattern is typical of you, then you may wish you work on recognizing and changing the way you interact with people.  No one was trying to upset you, insult you, or abuse you.  When you insist that someone "really meant" what you infer, and refuse to recognize that there was no intent to upset you, you actually create enmity where none existed before.  Going off on 'crazy' as you have done, accusing him of being 'like' one of your lousy clients, and proceeding to insult him so rudely, shows you in an extremely unflattering light.  

If you can exert enough self-control to refrain from knee-jerk defensiveness, perhaps you could go back and re-read the part about cultivating your skills.   If you provide a skilled service with a pleasant attitude, there is no reason you should not acquire a reasonable clientele of hobbyists who prefer your body type.  The fact that there are not so many men who prefer your body type is simply a fact, not a plot to undermine your self-esteem.  There ought to be more than enough of them to keep you busy, unless the service you provide is not, on their view, worth what you charge for it.  It is not your view of your worth that determines economic marketability, but theirs.  And it is not a put-down to point out this fact of the free market economy.  If you are unable to gain enough perspective to accept this fact, if you cannot separate your worth as a human being from your marketability as a commercial sex provider, then this industry may not be a good place for you.

You asked how to rebuild your presence in the industry after the unpleasant course of events you detail.  I interpreted part of his response to mean that one aspect of trying to rebuild a good business reputation might include accepting some business at a rate less than what you may consider your "due", in order to re-establish yourself.  Whether you "deserve" a better rate or not, you are going to have to have business to get better reviews, demonstrate your skills, improve your reputation; ideally, you should not let this discourage you from raising your rate to the highest amount you can get.  To be sure, charge as much as the market will bear; just remember that you can only get what your clientele will consent to pay, regardless of what you think your time "ought" to be worth.  I may think my time is worth $400 an hour, but realistically, I would rather have the $300 I can actually GET than stay home congratulating myself on how many calls I turn away!  One cannot pay one's bills with one's high opinion of oneself.   If you do not need to pay your bills, then you have the luxury of setting your rate as high as you like, for whatever emotional rewards that affords you in lieu of actual business.

Best of luck in your endeavors.

END OF MESSAGE

Thank you for explaining what he was trying to say (but couldn't) I do understand the point tho. Witch I did already know just the way he come off saying it was very off-putting me and I didnt even understand that was his point.

The point that he feel hes failing to understand and trying to convey to me is the fact that If I had a mentor and didnt get bad reviews none of this would have happened I think I wouldnt have had to drop my rates to the point that I did and never probably even had to escort when I never wanted to and still be doing FBSM and getting good reviews and doing very well for myself. I went in completely blind and naive thinking all I had to go was give a guy massage to a guy jerk him off at the end and do ok. I have learned the hard way that its soooooo much more then that but I have my reviews that wont go away and will follow me that are right now effecting the way I work and being in a position that I know I should be in. I just feel that crazy was being ignorant shallow and closed minded and completely missing this very important tidbit of my walk to failure and I feel he was only getting the drop my rates part. Its not because I'm big at its because I fucked up and I got bad reviews and I just feel all crazy is doing is trying to get me to believe that because I'm big I only deserve peanuts. That is way I felt like the bitch mode had to be turned on.

You are expecting to get paid something that is unrealistic.  If you think otherwise, then start over, put up a new persona, and charge whatever you think you should charge.  And if you get your rates and enough business, then you are correct and I am wrong.

I have no interest in being "right."  You wanted advice, and I gave you advice.  A provider just told you EXACTLY what I just said.  She didn't change one single word.

And now you continue to say that the reason you're in this position is because you didn't have a mentor?  How, pray tell, would have a mentor have changed the fact that you didn't get the rates you thought you were entitled to?

I don't care if you drop your rates.  You are not my type, so why would I care what rates you charge?  Charge whatever you want, but don't bitch when you don't get the rates you think you should get.  The past has shown that you don't know what you're doing when it comes to this business.

Your feelings are hurt, and that's fine.  I don't mean to offend you, but when you start telling me that I'm trying to offend you and I haven't been, then at some point then the gloves come off and I start becoming more direct.  And that's that you expect too much money for your services.

Guys don't pick FBSM providers based on their legitimate massage skills.  If you think that has anything to do with it, you are crazy and just don't understand this market.

You keep saying that if you didn't have bad reviews, then none of this would have happened.  Great.  Start again, and then you will have no reviews.  Change your number and your email, and you can start again.  No one will know who you are.  See if that changes anything.

I'm being ignorant?  You are nuts.  I have been doing this for probably as long as you have been alive.  You don't know this market and how to make money in it.  Worse off, your attitude sucks, and you take shit personally.  Why would any guy want to put up with that?

If you think that you can charge more, create a new persona and charge more.  Let's see if that works.  You don't need to spend time talking about this shit on a board when you could be making money.

I know I'm basically done talking with you.  I've been trying to help you, but it's pointless.  You believe what you want to believe.  See if you can get more business.  I hope you do, but the way you've shown your bitch mode on this board, I doubt anyone will want to see you.

Oh, and I'm sure you will blame that on me, too.  Because, you know, well, it's never YOUR fault.

I meant "rubdowns" not "rundowns". Damn auto correct.

How about you make the step-up and become a GOOD provider? Do you know any local boards? DO you know any providers? You don't sound stupid or a crack addict so there is hope to turn your image around. Be upfront what and who you are, as said previously DON'T misrepresent yourself. This includes your weight and measurements. It will take much time and effort to turn your image around but once you are seen in a better light you will have repeat clients. Your old past will come back and some may refuse to see you because of this, get over it and move on. Think how YOU would react if a provider you wanted to see had nothing but bad reviews and now is claiming to "be better". Be patient.

100/hr is awefully low, you are never going to get any good client regardless at that rate. You will be scraping the bottom of the barrel and you will get all the clients everyone else rejects or refuses to see. I know BBWs in my area that make 350/hr. For very man, there is a type of woman he enjoys. Don't short change yourself because you are BBW, every woman is beautiful and a men care a lot abut the EXPERIENCE versus if you are a super model.

Simple tips:
1) Get out of a grungy motel. Offer a better experience through outcalls or a better hotel (if it's under $70 a night pass)
2) Market yourself. Play up you assests
3) GET OFF BACKPAGE! Find other advertising sites

Feel free to message me on here as I'd love to help you out. No one helped me out when I first started to I cherish the opportunity to help you