Start off seeing massage girls. Most do not require verification since it's just a rub 'n tug. You'll get something more valuable than any verification service - referrals.
Even with the referrals I've built up some girls won't see me unless I'm verified. Sorry, married over here with a kid and I own a business. You think I'm taking undue risks? This biz is risky enough in the first place without possibly some cracked out provider having my real name and info.
Again, start off with the massage girls if you're new - build referrals and work your way up.
Hey guys,
Some providers insist on verifying before any meeting. For someone who does not have references, what is the safest way to get verified? I certainly do not want to give out too much personal information. What have you guys found to work? Is it on an individual basis with which the providers feels comfortable?
Hoping for some advice..
One, you can join one of the verification sites, DateCheck, Preferred411, or Roomservice 2000. Without a provider recommendation, you will likely have to give them some personal info, but that is better than giving it out to several providers. Check and see which site is most popular in your area, it does vary from state to state.
Two, look for newbie-friendly providers, there are plenty out there who are slightly less demanding in their screening process.
If you do not have VIP membership here, get it. It allows you to see a lot more info in reviews. Do your research on the providers. Search for info on this forum, look for verification. There are many posts on this forum that talk about your situation. They will reinforce what I have just told you.
Swim
You can see women that don't verify, but don't be surprised to find youself ripped off or in handcuffs. I look for providers that have the sturdiest possible verification processes. I feel exposed with any other type. Swim gave you sound advice. I suggest that you follow it to the letter.
If you come across a provider who does not ask for screening info, do not see her. While it is true some good providers can adequately screen from your cell # and email address, for someone new it's not worth the risk. Stick with well-reviewed TER girls and you lessen the risk of STDs or LE.
Don't give any provider a single piece of your information. One piece of hypocrisy in this business is the provider wants to know all about you, but tell you nothing "real" about her. You're also taking a risk. It's a business about risk. You want your personal information on her if she gets busted? You want your real name, number or place of business in her planner?
I didn't force anyone to become a provider. It's a job inherent with risks but that doesn't mean I'm coughing up a single piece of information. You'll get my "fake" email and monger phone number. Beyond that, if you don't want to see me then fine.
There are some providers who will only see you if they can verify you. Fine, then don't see them. There are plenty of others...and I know since I see them ALL the time, who do not verify because they're sharp enough to realize it's pointless anyway.
Here's a quote from you first post here. It had some excellent advice.
8) When possible, don't give anyone your real name or contact info. Use that disposable phone, get a separate free email account, like Yahoo. I'm stunned at the number of guys who use their regular email for this hobby. References win each and every time. Get a good reputation for treating providers with respect and you'll never have a problem getting an appointment.
9) This hobby has its dangers, but those can be minimized with research. Make sure you see a provider that's well reviewed on this site. Do not risk seeing some new girl off Backpage. It could be a scam or LE (law enforcement.) You will never have to worry about LE if you stick with well reviewed providers.
So how does an ABSOLUTE NEWBIE get the first couple under his belt?
Start off seeing massage girls. Most do not require verification since it's just a rub 'n tug. You'll get something more valuable than any verification service - referrals.
Even with the referrals I've built up some girls won't see me unless I'm verified. Sorry, married over here with a kid and I own a business. You think I'm taking undue risks? This biz is risky enough in the first place without possibly some cracked out provider having my real name and info.
Again, start off with the massage girls if you're new - build referrals and work your way up.
First, I saw a couple of providers who had several reviews here on TER who didn't screen ... there are plenty out there, at least in my area. I saw one of these ladies a few times and then asked her if she minded me using her as a reference. From there, I saw a few more providers while giving her as a reference. Then I joined P411 for free through a provider recommendation, and never had to give out any personal information I didn't want to.
Surprisingly, from subsequent conversations with the provider I used as a reference, I learned she was never actually contacted about me. I also know that many providers I've seen that do "screen" actually don't even bother to look at my P411 account after I give them the information. I get an email every time my profile is viewed.
to feel safe when she opens the door to her incall or enters your hotel room. If you don't want to give her the information she seeks, move on to you find a lady who will see you based on limited information. Try seeing Ms. LE, she doesn't require any verification.
Maybe you should stick to AMP's.
First off, only an unsafe hobbyist would be o.k. to go to a provider that does absolutely no form of verification. So, yes go use backpage and find yourself a girl and her pimp that can't wait for you to come in the incall room so they can rob and beat you. Maybe even make you part of their sick little twisted threesome which will include grabbing your keys and stealing your car. Then letting your wife and kids know what you have done.
Second, most upscale providers make between 300 - 600 an hour - probably not the most likely "cracked out candidates". I'm sure there are a few, but, definitely not the norm. We have responsiblities to ourselves and our families to keep our money in line, ourselves healthy and our business flowing.
I see newbie clients. They are respectful and provide the information that I request. I only take the minimum information necessary to give me 100% comfort level. If they can't or won't (which I very, very rarely run into) then I don't see them. There is enough business without playing games. I no way abuse this privileged information as they are my clients - human beings and potential return guests. Some become friends.
With your small minded attitude, I would like to really know what types of providers are grantiing you visits. I guess they are sharp enough, as you said, because they could be LE.
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