I have at least four different rates published on my site, my profile here, date check and my P411. Then there's the eros ad rates and rates of certain local boards. It's up to you to find the lowest.

all you have to do is say, "I saw your ad on a particular board" when you make an appointment.

In another thread on here, someone said that it's improper to ask for a provider's rates through email. BUT, if her rates aren't listed on her ad, or if you're not clear on her rates from her ad, just what are you supposed to do?

I recently asked a provider to clarify her rates, not because I was trying to argue with her, but I genuinely was confused and I needed clarification.  I was very polite about it and made it clear that this was payment for time spent with her. She didn't seem bothered by my question.

So, is it really wrong to ask for a provider's rates if you are not clear what they are or they are not listed, as long as you are polite about it?  If it is wrong to do this, what is the alternative?

It's for her own protection.  If her ad doesn't give the rate, then check her web site.  If the web site does not have it (they almost always do), or if she has no site, check her reviews here.  The profile must have a rate.  If she's not reviewed, you should not be seeing her anyway.  You also can PM some of her most recent reviewers to see what she charged.

and the well reviewed gals have a TER page that shows their rates.  And in most circumstances they have websites that also show rates.  But some may have the "call me" for something that may be a bit out of the ordinary (like an overnighter or in excess of 4 hours).

I've never had a problem asking a gal what the fees will be if indeed I was looking for something that was not clearly shown on her site/TER page.  But I will make a call and chat with her about it.  And this only after I have allowed her to screen me so she can at least be "more" comfortable that it is not an attempt to "fool her" (such as entrapment).

But to put it in an email/text before you have been screened will usually be met with a "no reply" message (sort of like crickets chirping).  And if you are indeed texting/emailing with some gal that has NO reviews and/or website and asking this...and more importantly she is responding...I would run...run very fast.  As now neither of you is taking this VERY illegal game seriously.  Remember, LE would love to have you talk all about paying fees for "their time".  And then you show up...and you have a new set of silver bracelets and a lot of embarrassment.

Play smart and safe

Yes, asking for rates is generally not cool, but sometimes we have to.  If you have looked her profile here (assuming she has one), her website (again assuming she has one), and her ads somewhere else, and you have not found any rates, there ain't much else you can do.  If she was not bothered by your question, then why are you asking now after the fact?

I can't tell you how many ads I have looked at with no rates, no website, and she wants you to call her for rates.  There are other review sites, so you could ask if she has reviews somewhere besides here.  In all honesty, if she has no reviews somewhere, move on, she ain't worth the risk, IMHO.

Some of these (esp the younger ones) girls just don't think......

Good luck,
Swim

The provider I've been corresponding with has reviews and is on one of the verification sites. So, I'm pretty sure she's legit. It's not that she didn't have her rates listed. I was just a little confused by how she had them listed, but this was more due to my stupidity than anything she did.

Thanks for words of wisdom and feedback.

your ad on ___ (insert escort name here--use lowest know rate) and I want to book an hour of your time.  The rate from this ad was $300, correct?"

If the rates are not listed on her website or ads, How would you know what they are without asking? I have seen websites or ads with no rates listed, or confusing rate structures, or even websites that say under rates, "contact me." I have also seen rates listed for home area but no tourning rates for ladies that were planning on touring my area. Also there is the instance of wanting a different time frame. For example, she has one hour and two hour rates but you are looking for a dinner date. Also I don't necessarily trust the rates on the TER profile as the profile is set by the first reviewer, and sometimes does not get updated. I have personally asked for rates in emails and have always been politely answered with the correct rates. I don't see a probelm with asking, "What is your two hour rate for incall?" Or, "What are your rates while you are touring my area?" Or, "Are the rates listed on your TER profile current?" Obviously you are not going to ask something like, "What is your rate for a bbbj?"

For the ladies that have rates clearly listed in their websites and/or ads, you should not ask. It is not only rude to ask, but it also shows that you didn't even care enough to read. Two reasons she may just ignore you. The ladies that you hear saying, "Never ask or discuss rates with me." will almost always have their rates clearly stated, probably in several places, so there is definitely no need to ask. They are probably also most likely to update their TER profiles.

Also as everyone said (and you already know) "don't see unreviewed providers." So, if there is a provider out there that doesn't have rates listed and is unreviewed, you obviously have no need or desire to contact her about her rates.

As you know there is tons of great advice given out on this board by seasoned hobbyists and providers, but the answers are not going to always be correct for every possible situation. There are exceptions for almost every rule. (As you also have already found out)
Good luck and stay safe.

For example, she only lists a one hour rate, but you want to see her for two hours.

In that case, I think it is alright to say something like:  "Would the rate for two hours be twice the one hour rate, or is there some discount?"

She can then respond either yes, or say something like it's $50 less, or whatever.

I've done this a few times and never had a problem with it.

Trust me, WE know our posted rates on each site!

So, "I saw your ad on Eros... I'd like to book you for an hour and a half".... that's all that's needed to discuss.

I would never answer that question. The fact that you are blatantly talking about money unnecessarily (you can just mention the ad or website where you saw my rate, you don't need to ask a question about it with the dollar amount in black and white) would make me nervous enough to ask for an additional reference or just end communication altogether. It depends on the circumstances.

Most of the time a guy is just clarifying but doesn't realize what a red flag it is to us.

The key is.... don't make the girl nervous about seeing you! It may not for some, but it may for others. Why take the chance that it will ruin the date?

Just say, "I saw your ad on Eros." We know what rate we posted there.

It shouldn't really be that confusing that you would have to ask her to clarify.

But if it is, your first question should be "The rates were not clear in your ad. Do you have a website or ad where your rates are clearly posted?" That question should be acceptable and raise no red flags.

If she doesn't have her rates posted ANYWHERE, you really have to ask her what they are. And she wants you, too, otherwise she would have the rates posted somewhere.

Why would a provider want to talk about money over the phone, text, or email?

She is probably inexperienced about why this is risky or she is taking the "what is your budget?" approach to see how much money she can get out of you or she is undercover and documenting the conversation herself (so, yes, check for reviews)!

I always have my rates clearly posted in my ads and I STILL have guys ask me "What are your rates?" Ugh! I think they just look at the pictures and jump right to the phone number.

Don't be that guy!

on the business side of things.

I think I did cover different scenarios when the rates are not clear or entirely absent in the rest of my post.

"I got your info from (identify site) and would like to come see you on (date) (general time: around 10am) depending on your schedule for (length of time)."

If you really have to confirm price, do it later in a separate message that doesn't include anything else.  "Hello, this is (name) I'll have $$$ with me.  Please let me know if anything needs to change.  My number is xxx."

Sending it separately from your first appointment request does NOT make it any less of a red flag to many providers.

All you need to say is, "I saw your ad on ___________." Or "I saw your website." We know what rates are on there!

I had a guy I saw from Preferred411 tell me that he was on his way to his appointment with another girl, so he was verified and had okays, and texted the girl, "So, it's $300, right?" She never responded or saw him. And he was completely verified!

And that is the point... don't make the girl nervous about seeing you for any reason. Just because your approach worked fine with the last girl you saw doesn't mean it's "okay" with the rest. And, geez, don't go around advising other guys to do that!

when i have emails or calls askin for stuff concernign rates. I know if they want to bust you you have to at some point admit to offering blank for blank so that may make people think you r a dt., at least i would think that and get all freaked out .

If it's not mentioned in her ad or if I am not VIP, I gotta find out somehow.

I rarely bother picking up the phone, so I have emailed many providers asking what their rates are in a very polite way and almost always get a reply.  Though, I frequently substitute the word "rate" with "donation".

In my experience, it's not a big deal at all and I don't sweat asking.

...so your experiences do not carry over to those that do!

Talking about money unnecessarily makes experienced girls nervous. If my rates are right in my ad or website, why try to sound like you are trying to document them by "confirming" what you just saw in black in white?

If every girl you are seeing has no rates in her ads and no website with any rates that force you to ask what her rates are, you are not seeing experienced providers who understand the risks of entrapment. This is one of the reasons we set up websites... "If you have any questions, go see my website!"

Don't take your experiences with these girls and think it's okay to discuss rates with all providers. It's not okay!

If I saw a website or ad with listed rates I wouldn't ask in a call or email.  If I have some interest in seeing someone and the rates are not visible to me, I will ask.  If I have VIP and there are reviews, her rate will be listed.  No need to ask.

I'll ask a provider if they have no reviews and don't list a donation in their ad.  Like I said, I haven't had a problem with asking.  I will admit that most of the women I ask end up having a higher fee that I prefer not to give them.  That's just one way I do some research.  

Many of the women I have asked were or are very experienced.  Sure, I know some were not, but if you have experience in anything, whatever it is, then you'll develop a feel and instinct for many things.  For example you'll know who is legit and who is not, etc.  

By the way, if you have your rates listed on your website, I would consider that very solid documentation for all to see vs. an email.

I wouldn't hassle anyone for a reply as to her rate.  I would not hassle anyone, for any reason.  Period.

Like I said, I would only contact a provider if her preferred donation was not listed in an ad or her website or when my VIP has lapsed.

You list your rate on your ad, so I'm all set!