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The ladies come and go, and hence so do your references.
mattradd 40 Reviews 919 reads
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Many of the ladies on sites like P411 and Date-check are newbie friendly. And, you may want to hobby while traveling.

So I'm brand brand new to hobbying and I see that most provider's require references (obviously).

Being as I have no references, it seems that a site like P411 can offer me some verification.

But once I have a couple references what is the purpose of continuing to pay a $69.00 annual fee for a verification site?


As a side question to this topic, I have found some provider's who state on their website something like "If I have not met you, please send me two current references so we can relax and enjoy our time together. This is non-negotiable, so please respect both my time and yours when you contact me."

I assume this means that being verified by P411 won't do me any good with this provider, correct? And if true, roughly what percentage of providers WON'T accept verification through a site like P411?

phew, long post and lots of questions, sorry. All responses greatly appreciated!!

Of course, P411 requires either references or traditional screening (e.g., full real name, employment, etc.).  Once you have references?  The primary benefit, in my opinion, is convenience.  Both yours and the ladies'.  

First, instead of emailing another lady you want to see and providing the two references -- the names, contact info, and how the reference lady will remember you (and some may forget fairly soon) -- you can just send her your P411 code.  (Even better, as Gina recommends, you can email her or request an appointment through P411 rather than sending directly from your email account.  That way she knows it's you.)  You don't have to hunt for contact info, try to remember when you last saw the reference lady and what you said or did that might remind her of you (important if it's been awhile since you've seen the reference lady).  It's quick and easy.

Second, once the new lady gets that P411 code or message/appointment request through P411, she can "screen" you very quickly.  Some ladies want to go beyond the "OK" on P411 by actually contacting some of the ladies you've seen, since their definitions of "OK" may differ and she can also get some insight into what you're like as a client.  But most ladies, from what I've seen, will accept you as screened as long as you have a couple of OK's, not too old, from ladies whose names she recognizes.  Literally a minute in many cases.  

That makes the screening process much more convenient for the lady but also benefits you.  Without P411, you provide the references, she emails or phones them, they don't respond right away, and she has to wait until they get back to her.  Which could be an hour or could be two days.  If you're trying to schedule with a new lady on short notice, your chances of being screened in time are much better with P411 than with the regular reference system.

Those are the obvious advantages, anyway.  Whether they're worth $69/year is up to you.  It is for some people, not for others.

As far as ladies who say that two current references are "non-negotiable" . . . if she's also on P411, she almost certainly considers an "OK" on P411 (if it's current) as equivalent to a reference.  That is, after all, what it really is.  I've never run across a lady who was on P411 but wouldn't accept that for screening.  Many of them do require more than the Basic membership, that is, that you have a few OK's on your account.  But they usually disclose that in their P411 profile under "Willing to See":  Basic, Basic + 1, Basic + 2, whatever.  I would guess that somewhere between 20% - 40% of the ladies on P411 will accept it as verification even without an OK.  (I think that's risky on their part and I wouldn't recommend it, but that's my guess.)  That's solely a wild-ass guess.  You might try contacting P411 to ask if they have any statistics about that.  Of course, what matters is not the averages for all the ladies on P411, but what is accepted by the ladies you want to see. :)

Good luck.j

well i accept p411 verification of you and you can also join roomservice2000.com as their fee is lifetime  
SweetPeach
NW Indiana

Many of the ladies on sites like P411 and Date-check are newbie friendly. And, you may want to hobby while traveling.

NickJenkins958 reads

What if you travel.

I guess it depends on your frequency. If it's once a year, the fee is not worth it.

Many of the ladies on sites like p411 and Date-check are newbie friendly. Also, it comes in handy when you want to hobby while traveling out of town.

I have joined P411 recently and did not find it to be useful for the OC unless you visit a provider that is part of P411. My biggest problem is that most of the provider posted on TER are not on P411. If we can get the majority the provider to join P411, the site will be useful. Since that is not happening, I doubt I will renew my membership after it expires.

Many of the women on those sites do not have TER reviews. However, it is a plus, to me, when I find a lady on both, and she has a good review history on TER. It makes me feel more assured about the safety of visiting her.

I've never had to give any references, I just contact ladies through P411 and they see my OKs. The convenience is well worth the annual fee. P411 is also a great place to search for providers using the criteria you specify.

Simple reason is the P-411 route is quicker and easier.

I travel a lot so often I try to set up an appointment with fairly short notice. It takes a fair amount of time for the cross communication between providers to take place. Usually it goes quickly but it can sometimes take longer.

The other reason is simplicity. Whenever you email a provider's info to another in order to allow her to check the reference, you must also give a heads up to the previous provider and this takes extra time and energy on your part. If a previous acquaintance of yours gets a "cold call" from your prospective date, she might have trouble giving the reference. It's just a common courtesy but it takes time.

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