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That's no excuse.
Julian_Rios 1034 reads
posted
1 / 12

I have sent multiple P411 appointment requests (not pre-screening requests) for this coming Fri or Sat and I am pausing before sending more to check here and see if that is kosher.

I did not see anything on P411 discouraging this so I assume it is not a problem; I figure whoever confirms first wins and I cancel the other requests.  

Anything wrong with this approach?

VincenzoG91 5 Reviews 114 reads
posted
2 / 12

I admit that I did this once during my first year in the hobby, but when I later got involved with a provider, she explained why it wasn't cool.

From the provider standpoint, you are wasting their time. Not just their time, but also the time of the providers they are contacting to screen you. And depending on when you call to cancel, you may be hurting their earning power because they turned away other potential clients for your time slot.

From the monger standpoint, you are wasting our time, too. These providers are likely to handle appointment requests on a first come, first serve basis, so they may be busy screening you and delaying our appointment requests. And then they are turning away our requests for that time slot because they think they have you scheduled.

The problem with waiting until confirmation is that many providers wait until the same day or maybe the day before to confirm the appointment. They have had enough timewasters and NCNS dudes that they have learned to delay confirmation. Do enough cancellations, and you may find that you are having more trouble booking appointments. Do it a lot, and you may end up on a blacklist.

Senator.Blutarsky 124 reads
posted
3 / 12

Not cool. The only time the shotgun approach is even remotely acceptable IMO is when you are looking for someone right now. Even then, I'd be cautious about the number. The best bet when you want immediate response is to have prescreened with a reputable agency, so you can just call them up and see who's available.  

If you are scheduling ahead, it's better to send a request to your first choice and wait at least 24 hours for a response. If she hasn't responded in that time, then reach out to your second choice.

The problem with the approach you described is that you'll get a rep for wasting other people's time. The ones who respond second or third within a reasonable time who you cancel on will in all likelihood put you on their DNS list or worse.  And if you keep it up, soon no one will respond to your requests.  

Solo mis dos centavos

keystonekid 114 Reviews 129 reads
posted
4 / 12

lady replies and you end up telling her no, you risk the chance of being put on a DNS list (i.e. blackballed) as a time waster.

Debra_Hollander See my TER Reviews 111 reads
posted
5 / 12

Unless you're looking for last-minute, wait a day or two prior to contacting someone else.

In your case, since you already sent out multiple requests: once you've made definite arrangements with someone and later get responses from the others?

Simply tell them that unfortunately you can no longer make that date but you'll try again another time.

Please do NOT tell these ladies that you already scheduled with someone else.  It's not exactly a warm fuzzy feeling.  Personally, I find it tacky.  ;-)

Handling it the way I suggested might help to keep you off these ladies' DNS lists lol.

souls_harbor 119 reads
posted
6 / 12

... the lackadaisical way many respond to p411 requests does tend to motivate one to broadcast in order to get a timely response from at least one.  I haven't done more than one at a time, but it has often caused delays of days or a week in order to schedule something.

Julian_Rios 113 reads
posted
7 / 12

Seems like an early consensus and I understand the reasoning everyone gave.  I will definitely hold off on sending out more requests until I have answers on my others.

If I'm planning ahead, however, that approach just seems like it would limit my options.  If I am allowing reasonable time for responses, at least 24 hours, that only allows me 4-5 contacts by Fri unless I get really rapid replies.  Any suggestions on how to cast a wider net, so to speak?

impposter 49 Reviews 139 reads
posted
8 / 12

Posted By: Julian_Rios
Any suggestions on how to cast a wider net, so to speak?
You might try posting an ISO (In Search Of) request to the ISO board or your local board. Be brief and hope for replies (posted or PMed). "I will be visiting (city) and I'm looking for a date on Fri or Sat. I prefer (height, hair color, ....) (incall vs outcall). (Other info you think is relevant for your market: fee range, etc.). I am P411 with (x) OKs. ... Post here or PM."

NoGreenBorderedEnvelope 117 reads
posted
9 / 12

There's ways to avoid waiting "days or a week" to schedule a provider through P411:

* If this is your first date with the provider, allow extra time for screening, or do a pre-screening request to make scheduling of the future date go faster.  
* If you're pressed for time (assuming this is someone you've seen before--if not see point above), make it clear in your request that you need to hear from her by X date/time (and make it reasonable) or you'll assume she can't schedule with you at this time and you look forward to seeing her some other time in the future.  
* Be sure to check her P411 page, calendar (if posted), local ad (if she has one), and web site (if she has one) to see if there's any info re availability.  

FWIW, I've always had prompt responses to my P411 scheduling requests, even though I tend to book several days to a couple of weeks out.  

GaGambler 138 reads
posted
10 / 12

Or at least don't do so when you are using the "shotgun approach"  

 
I make a LOT of same day requests and if I followed the advice normally given here I'd be left sitting at home with my dick in my hand most days, but OTOH I don't want to end up on a bunch of DNS lists for being a time waster. What I do is to send out carefully written PM's not "appointment requests" inquiring about availability along with an invitation for the lady to check out my profile and okays before getting back to me. This way I don't have to "cancel" on the ladies who take a while to get back to me. As a "high volume" john, it actually has a double benefit as by the time the "slow responders" get back to me, I usually end up booking with them too. Just because I get laid on Wednesday doesn't mean I won't want to get laid on Friday too, so it's a win win for me. lol

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 111 reads
posted
11 / 12
JJLLRRKK1971 6 Reviews 137 reads
posted
12 / 12

I did this on two different days just in case both wanted to confirm and understand why your doing it. You do not want to be left out of having a date that week. I will do it again and be prepared to book both if it comes to it. It is just how I like to do things. If it is not making anyone upset, do things how you want.

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