I'm new to the scene but this situation that I encountered today really raise eyebrows.  
I'm based in the Chicago area and lately found an escort who really caught my eyes. The interesting thing is I found her off backpage and she does not maintain any personal website whatsoever. This escort looks absolutely stunning and I would give her 8-10 for sure. Here is what really upset me. I've booked three appointments with her, each of which lasted two hours. For the first two appointments, I mostly just talked with her as I was in the mood (I did it with other providers which surprised them and probably so this is normal to me),  though she is not opposed to touching or kissing (not on mouth of course) whatsoever. On the last appointment, I said to myself I wanted to have sex with her this time. And this just went downhill. She outrightly told me I didn't specify any sex acts before the appointment so sex is out of question. In another words, I'm allowed only talking....I paid her 550 for two hours. Please guys tell me if this is fucking normal. This just fucking ruined my day....

I wouldn't say that this is typical, but you set the precedent on what you were willing to pay for a level of service. Now you decided to change the service and she wants to change the rate.  I think you're getting hosed, but I also think you set yourself up for it.

Maybe this thread should be moved to the Chicago board?  Or even to Newbie?  

Truly, though, I am sincerely sorry this happened to you!  If her ads give the impression she's a full service provider, then she is a scam artist.

Is this normal?  Well, it's not uncommon with unknown ladies.  Which is an excellent reason to stick with those who have built up a solid reputation for delivering as promised.

If she didn't have any reviews here or elsewhere, then she was an unknown, and you're fortunate that nothing worse happened to you.  Not that this makes it ok!  

The Chicago regional board on this site is full of helpful hobbyists who could likely chime in and offer their advice on local ladies who WILL deliver as promised.  Or don't take chances on ladies without several positive reviews from established reviewers.  

Sending you hugs and wishing you much better luck on your next sexcapade! xoxoxo

there are a lot of them infiltrating the Sex Industry.

 
I bet she's scrambling to figure out how to get you back.
Not too many guys will fall for that one

Before TER.. Before I discovered the hobby.. before I ever heard of BP even..  
I got pretty close to a gorgeous stripper at a golf resort in the South.. saw her every time I went there.. a few times a year. finally talked her into coming to my rented condo..  
I had agreed that I would make up the $2,500 she would have made at the club that night.. OK.. she got there.. we had dinner.. lots of kissing.. holding hands.. she went to change into a very sexy bra & panty.. and she proceeded to give me a super hot lap dance.. mucho kissing... grinding until she was pretty much nude..she was grinding me laying on me on the couch..  I was so turned on.. she said she was too.. I suggested we move into the bedroom.. she said ... no.. she didn't do that ...???? Huh?  

She still calls me a few times a year.. she is easily one of the prettiest women I have ever seen.. but I learned my lesson.. TER all the way... never again will that happen.. still gets me upset when I think what that $2,500 could have done..

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But don't feel bad , I went through few of those before I found  
TER.  Be glad you're part of this family now

There is more than enough great ladies in Chicago ( my home town )
You just learned a lesson . I would call it a TOFTT session.
Find her back page add and post a negative review so  
No one else will go through this Bull shit

lso, ask questions on here.  Being semi new myself there are a lot of terms here that mean things like gfe for girlfriend experience.  Maybe she wasn't offering that type of service? Unfortunately the amount makes it sound like it should've led to sex, but backpage I'm not a fan of, too much bullshit on there.  I'm in the same city as you, if you want any of my advice or have questions feel free to shoot me a message.  Be happy to help tell you what I've dealt with so far

You Did meet with this 'Provider' so you are allowed to post a review. This way you can warn other hobbiests that they should not expect any type of sexual activity if they choose to meet with her.  

That's pretty much the foundation of TER. It allows us to evaluate what our session might be like with a provider based on the experience of others. Although YMMV always applies, it does indicate the likelihood of having an enjoyable session or, as in you case Not having one.

Chiguy

should have been your first clue that you might get scammed. And $550 for 2 hrs should definitely have included sex if you wanted it. It's up to you, not her, on how you want to spend your time together that you're paying for. Within reason of course.  

I'm sort of in a similar situation. A provider is coming to town. She's on p411, only 3 reviews on another review site, and personal website. Web search didn't find much so I posted on the other review site asking about her. I have even pm'd her to ask some simple general questions. With a little time, I'm hoping I get enough information to make a decision.

I guess what my long winded response is saying is to do your homework. It may talk a few days, but you'll be better informed. Post on review sites to ask about her if there's no other information on her. There are many people willing to help you because I'm sure at one time or another, they have been in the same boat.

Good luck and hopefully you'll have a better experience next time. There are plenty of wonderful providers out there.

I don't order off backpage, nor do I book ladies who aren't substantiated by other sources of information. I also wouldn't ever pay women just to talk to them. So I couldn't say how normal this would be under the circumstances. I can't wrap my mind around the "not on mouth of course" comment, for instance. Every girl I've ever seen has allowed mouth kissing, whether they offered a GFE or not.  

But she sounds like a scam artist, and you should review her.  


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I really appreciated you guys' empathy and responses. One thing I have to clarify is by no means am I a complete newbie. I almost always booked appointment from ladies with good reviews on TER, except my very first experience. The curious nature of this escort is she does have a good amount of reviews on TER (27 reviews), not stellar reviews but somehow below average, and I've seen guys who received services from her in the past who complained about the limited options or lackluster performance. But sex is always included. In fact I'll post her link at the end of this post, if you guys would like to take a look.  

Another thing that really puzzled me is the donation. The price listed on her TER page is 200/hr, and there one review about her where the guy said he paid 250/hr for sex. When I booked appointment with her for the first time, she told me I should pay 500 for two hours. And yesterday, that awful experience...., she told me for sex her rate is 350/hr. I've always wanted to get hold of these guys who reviewed her and PM them about their experiences, but none of them maintained an active VIP account...

And to be honest with you guys, I really have no idea what the hell is going on with this girl. Her schedule is pretty much very open and she always told me she was free for a whole day and I can come whenever, which means that she should be desperate for clients. But her demeanor is like that of princess syndroms (I almost feel like I'm fucking paying a girl to be in an unhealthy relationship...! She even acted like a kid and threw tantrums at me yesterday I mean what the fuck this GFE was going overboard) It seems to me there are some mental issues with this girl---that she acts as if her clients should behave like her boyfriend and pamper to her whimsies (in another words, you're basically fucking paying her to be her miserable boyfriend). What I'm trying to say here is she is not even trying to be manipulative (because if you manipulate you care about your reviews on TER and whether you could keep a client and from what I've seen she definitely is not smart enough for that). She is just completely self-centered and, at best, innocently manipulative if you know what I mean. I say this with confidence because my ex-girlfriend is exactly like that... She told me she doesn't like to meet new people, and she have some regulars with whom she normally went on evening dates with ( in fact she is going tonight) and bought her luxury presents (jewelry and shoes) . So I seriously think there are quite a few insecure guys out there who would fall for her kind of shit and keep boasting her ego.  

With that being said, I think the reason that I got myself into this kind of situation is absolutely self-incurred. But the very thought of me spending this much of money on a provider without sex makes me want to have sex with her even more. I actually wanted to find a way of getting her service at some points in the future and then posting a review of her that would warn other clients of the temptations and dangers of this girl. There is a way to deal with girl like her but I blew my chance. Please let me know what you guys' thoughts on this.

Yep -- this was a learning experience for you. My suggestion is (other than perhaps listening to the point about not needing to pay, these rates at lease, to talk if that's what you're looking for) is never see a provider for the first time if you're not looking to get laid, or sex of some form. Save that for your ATFs as you find them -- if you find this is something you need to do. I'm sure its a fetish any number of providers will happily fulfill and you can even get a number that are better than average.

One last thought -- given how you describe the situation. Just move on and put it behind you. Like I said, learning experience for you. That low performance score should have warned you. Didn't pay any attention to where you are but the 200/hr rate is also a bit of a warning.

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You found her on BP and stopped there???? Only later do you mention that she has an easy to find Profile with 27 reviews. Just read those reviews! You should have been forewarned! Lots of low numbers and "No" seems like the most used word in the Juicy Details.  

From her Profile (sex - yes, bbbj, etc.) AND from her ads, I would also expect her fee to be all inclusive. But as soon as I read some reviews, I could see that she isn't worth the rubles, time, and effort (for I usually expect).  

Write an honest review. You had a good time w/o sex TWICE! TWICE! But then you were bothered by the UPSELL at the third visit.  

I don't see this situation improving for you. Write the review, forget her and move on, reading the reviews in advance

looks like trouble. Maybe GPS? Her ter profile is very misleading when compared to the reviews. I would just move on and be glad you're not wasting any more money on her. There are plenty of other wonderful ladies in Chicago to see.

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She has lots of reviews, but many are 3, 4, 5 and the comments from some of the reviewers would tell me "run away." There is always someone who posts beautiful pictures to entice us to go ahead with an appointment, but I look for patterns in reviews. One bad review does not turn me away, but quite a number of them tells me that it's going to be a crap shoot with her. Thanks for sharing this one with us. We can all benefit.

Your first mistake was going to BP to begin with and your 2nd mistake was making a decision based solely on photographs which are not real most of the time or they are of another girl who never shows up. I commend you for reaching out to more seasoned hobbyist on this board. You should head their advice.  We all started somewhere and we speak from experience.  

If you want to have a great time and get what you seek ladies who have bonafide reviews, personal website and are listed on P411 or other sites.  You have lots of options especially in a city like Chicago.  

If you keep looking for cheap girls on BP this is going to continue to happen to you.  Bottom line:  Stay away from BP.  Period. Everything you need is right here.  

Good Luck!

Dude, Her average performance score is 5.2.  Thats all you need to know and it speaks volumes!  I found that out in 2 seconds with zero research just by clicking on the link that you provided on the lady.  An average performance score that low means no sex.