"What would the rate be for an hour in your company", or two, or four...
Is it proper to ask for rates at initial contact, say, via email? This is of course if an ad or website doesn't show rates.
Most providers list their rates on their private websites or their ads. If they are reviewed, their rates should be on TER (if you have VIP membership you can see rates). Although sometimes TER rates aren't up to date. Do your research first. If you can't find their rate posted, then it's fine to ask. Write a nice polite email without specifics other than perhaps area of town you are in and length of engagement, and what you are like as a person, and ask what her donation would be. Then the provider will get back to you with her rate and screening requirements... Usually a provider's personal website is the most accurate source for rates. Never talk about specifics. Not even once you meet her. Enjoy the encounter, and if you choose to see her again, once you have a relationship, you can talk about more specifics. You can tell a lot from reviews, though I think sometimes the men get poetic and perhaps exaggerate a bit.
it makes me very nervous to have to ask and I also fear that the reason they don't ask is to try to fingle me into agreeing to a date and then springing the bad news to me later.
For both those reasons, I won't even consider a provider who won't put her rates up first.
wow, i didn't even think about having to donate more than originally expected. has that happened to you where a rate was emailed or verbally given, then more was expected after?
Part of the reason it is so important to read the reviews and have a pretty good idea of who it is that you are meeting (meating? LOL).
It shouldn't ever be a problem with well reviewed independants, but the less ethical ladies know very well that if they ask for an extra hundy (or more) after they have your dick in there mouth, many guys will willingly fork it over for more.
but occasionally sad stories of upsells or other types of ripoffs pop up on this or other boards.
In the massage parlor situation, where you typically pay something in the area of $60 to $120 for a half/full hour and then (if you are lucky) the massesuse will ask about half way through if there is anything else she can do for you.
In this case, you can then offer what you think is a reasonable fee for full service or whatever and 90% of the time it comes off without a hitch; provided the vice squad doesn't show up while you are there (which is happening more and more often.)
If the provider has not listed her rate on her ad or on her wevbsite, sure it is proper to politely ask what the donation would be. More often than not there is a reason the rate is not listed and you are not going to be happy with what you find out. Sometimes it is just an oversite on their part, especially if just an ad and she has no website.
Would the same apply to an entire agency who
does have any advertisement of what its rates are? Would such an agency be reliable to deal
with if they have no rates listed and forced
you to send an email to get this info ?
Never quite heard that before. What the heck, send an e-mail and see what they say. At least they are willing to tell you the rate before you book the appt.
If this particular agency is listed in the yellow pages, is there any possiblity they
could be LE?
I don't know about your area, but where I am yellow page agencys are not very good to deal with.
Do they still have Yellow pages?
I read a book once called Yellow river, it was well written by a Mr. IP Daily.
I have heard the strip club Mags are a better source then the Yellow pages. but not by much. The last time I used a phone book was in 1982.
"What would the rate be for an hour in your company", or two, or four...
Usually I avoid any providers who do not list their rates. There are many other ones out there with reliable service and rates.
If you want to pursue it, get a "donation" amount verbally AND through e-mail. If you see her and she refuses to honor this quote, walk away. Although you should not ask for specifics by phone or e-mail, my rule of thumb to detect a rip-off is that if the provider wants $200 or more, BBBJ should be negotiable. $300 or more, it should be standard.
250 and CBJ is a rip-off, or is it 300?
Every client should set their own standards for what they consider a fair exchange.
As for me: for $250 she should offer it as an option, based on her mood. She should be willing to consider it. She can still turn it down if she doesn't feel like it - I wouldn't insist. For $300, it should be expected. I'm not necessarily including CIM. For less than $200, I don't expect BBBJ at all.
You Wrote: "She can still turn it down if she doesn't feel like it - I wouldn't insist."
Wouldn't Insist? WTF? How exactly would you "insist"?
You are in dangerous territory with some of your posts the last couple of days, I hope you are just venting or something. Some of the posts have me a little worried and I am sure that ladies reading them might be as well.
We are in a hobby that has few hard and fast rules, but the first one is: The money is for her time only. Anything that happens between consenting adults is their business and their business alone. Period.
If she says no that's the end of it. I won't bring it up again or try to pressure her. WTF are you implying?
Why are you worried? Have you read my reviews? I'm not venting about any bad experiences. In fact, the last time I went hobbying was 2 weeks ago with my ATF and I had a great time. I didn't write a review because I already reviewed her. Nothing in my most recent posts should imply anything but a statement of principle. If I sound strident, it's because everyone else sounds so evasive.
It seems the your main concern is that I'm being too explicit in the wrong forum. That's fine but you have not been too direct about it.
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if a provider is not professional enough to list her donation rates on her website, or on the ad website she uses, I take a pass - period. That is just my own preference, but probably a wise one because ANY discussion, via e-mail, phone, telegraph, smoke signals or whatever that suggests $$$ for sex, is grounds for arrest and considered solicitation.
Sometimes I may want to book a fracional time increment that is not posted (like 90 mins). Sometimes the website may say "multi-hour discount". Anyway, if I'm not sure of the donation I e-mail and say "I understand you enjoy roses. How many should I bring for a 90 min appt"? They always understand and rely appropriately.