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dannyotk 2028 reads
posted
1 / 26
worried and confused

i have called several providers and asked to get together BUT NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER!
it may be that i have no references but when you are on soc sec you can not pay $150 or so to maybe be verified on the one site  i found that verifies customers
my needs are very minimal and i am not threat at all. mature, respectful, etc.
HELP

JackDunphy 852 reads
posted
2 / 26
I have a question.

If you don't even have the $ to be verified, which you will need to see anyone good and reputable, how will you have the money to hobby?

wheelchairman 54 Reviews 772 reads
posted
3 / 26
It will be hard to find a date...

If you don't have employment to verify who you are. I would try contacting a newbie friendly lady and asking her. Try being active on the local board. Some ladies might see you after a couple of months of being active on the regional board. Buy VIP and PM'd some ladies too. The ladies may see you if you PM'd them thru TER because it takes some effort and money to get VIP. That's something that LEO doesn't do too often.

Since you are a newbie. Stay off of BP.

This is an expensive hobby. If you want to have a great time. The best ladies charge $300/hr and up. If you do an outcall that's an extra $100 I don't know if anyone can do it on social security alone.

This is only my opinion it may or may not work. I got verify thru my employment.

shudaknownbetter 743 reads
posted
4 / 26
You might find what you want with a FBSM provider

Some might offer extras after they get to know you.  For FBSM there aren't any good forums I'm aware of.  Most FS providers have one rate which makesd their massages too expensive compared with 'just' FBSM offerings but occasionally a gal will offer both at separate rates.  You might start with FBSM & eventually ask for more (at extra fee).  I started out this way.        

You may have to do a lot of research to find FBSM providers who have any TER reviews but without any reviews, you are walking in blind.  I did this research for my local area.

For FS providers...  do not start with any ad venue, least of all Back Page.  Every ad venue has good providers & scamers.   Instead with the most recent reviews for your area.  You research should include their ads where pictures are often found.  You'll need to check out their reviews.  Just because the gal claims to have reviews...  might even have a link or a TER number...  does not mean thereviews are GOOD.  Amazing!

I'm also on limited income & can't afford to lose out to a scammer.

dannyotk 449 reads
posted
5 / 26
Re: You might find what you want with a FBSM provider

Thank You

dannyotk 761 reads
posted
6 / 26
Re: I have a question.

can do one thing not both, have to save up

Posted By: JackDunphy
If you don't even have the $ to be verified, which you will need to see anyone good and reputable, how will you have the money to hobby?

BeautywithBrains See my TER Reviews 708 reads
posted
7 / 26
YES! That is your opnion. Why should the OP stay off BP......

....if the lady he wishes to see has great reviews, and board presence?  

    In addition, many ladies such as myself, do not charge extra for outcalls.  If I am crossing the river, I might ask for a two hour minimum, but I would never charge extra for an outcall in the district.  The cost of taxi/Uber fare is included in my gift: cost of doing business.

    Just my .02.

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

shudaknownbetter 673 reads
posted
8 / 26
Why should the OP stay off BP......

If he starts with TER reviews for his area, he'll avoid the scammers...  regardless of where she advertizes.  In some areas, BP is all there is!
 

Posted By: BeautywithBrains
....if the lady he wishes to see has great reviews, and board presence?    
     In addition, many ladies such as myself, do not charge extra for outcalls.  If I am crossing the river, I might ask for a two hour minimum, but I would never charge extra for an outcall in the district.  The cost of taxi/Uber fare is included in my gift: cost of doing business.  
     Just my .02.  
 Hugs and Kisses,  
 Kelly

wheelchairman 54 Reviews 687 reads
posted
9 / 26
If the guy is looking for his first date...

Then BP isn't the best place too look especially if he is looking to gain references. BP is only supposed to be use by veteran hobbyists. They know how to use tiny eye and google phone numbers as part of their research. Also veteran hobbyists are more likely to have TER VIP so they can read the full review of any lady BP or not.

Every lady has their own policy on outcalls. I was just letting the guy know that it might be more expensive. In my city the outcall fee is $50 to $100. Some ladies also require a 2 hour date depending on how long of a drive.

JackDunphy 693 reads
posted
10 / 26
I totally disagree and I agree with BWB here.

BP is NOT only for veterans. TER helps newbs to avoid rip offs and LE.  

Its doesn't matter what mall a girl uses for advertising as long as a newbie can verify the girl in question by looking at numerous reviews of her here, by reviewers who have a decent amount of review history themselves.

Many places in the country have to use BP for advertising because those smaller markets are not served elsewhere and many quality girls use BP.

Again, the point isn't where a girl advertises but If she is verifiable or not.

nom_de_plume 577 reads
posted
11 / 26
some comments...

First, many FBSM providers are listed in TER.  And they are very easy to find--you can search on "massage" for service type, and there are many other search options. To use many of them requires VIP, but you could get a short membership or earn membership by giving back to the TER community by reporting errors in profiles etc.  The great benefits of VIP, including full reviews, full search, and PMs far outweigh the cost. How much is your safety worth?

And since there are many FBSM providers listed here, this is a good forum in which to find them. There's an ISO board to seek providers. You can also post ISO queries on your local board (some frown on that, but it's done all the time).  
Posted By: shudaknownbetter
Some might offer extras after they get to know you.  For FBSM there aren't any good forums I'm aware of.  Most FS providers have one rate which makesd their massages too expensive compared with 'just' FBSM offerings but occasionally a gal will offer both at separate rates.  You might start with FBSM & eventually ask for more (at extra fee).  I started out this way.        
   
 You may have to do a lot of research to find FBSM providers who have any TER reviews but without any reviews, you are walking in blind.  I did this research for my local area.  
   
 For FS providers...  do not start with any ad venue, least of all Back Page.  Every ad venue has good providers & scamers.   Instead with the most recent reviews for your area.  You research should include their ads where pictures are often found.  You'll need to check out their reviews.  Just because the gal claims to have reviews...  might even have a link or a TER number...  does not mean thereviews are GOOD.  Amazing!  
   
 I'm also on limited income & can't afford to lose out to a scammer.          

shudaknownbetter 560 reads
posted
12 / 26
Re: some comments...

My statment applies to my region where I have done considerable research of Massage providers.  Other areas may or may not be similar & no one will know without attempting to do proper research.    

Posted By: nom_de_plume
First, many FBSM providers are listed in TER.  And they are very easy to find--you can search on "massage" for service type, and there are many other search options. To use many of them requires VIP, but you could get a short membership or earn membership by giving back to the TER community by reporting errors in profiles etc.  The great benefits of VIP, including full reviews, full search, and PMs far outweigh the cost. How much is your safety worth?  
   
 And since there are many FBSM providers listed here, this is a good forum in which to find them. There's an ISO board to seek providers. You can also post ISO queries on your local board (some frown on that, but it's done all the time).  
   
Posted By: shudaknownbetter
Some might offer extras after they get to know you.  For FBSM there aren't any good forums I'm aware of.  Most FS providers have one rate which makesd their massages too expensive compared with 'just' FBSM offerings but occasionally a gal will offer both at separate rates.  You might start with FBSM & eventually ask for more (at extra fee).  I started out this way.          
     
  You may have to do a lot of research to find FBSM providers who have any TER reviews but without any reviews, you are walking in blind.  I did this research for my local area.  
     
  For FS providers...  do not start with any ad venue, least of all Back Page.  Every ad venue has good providers & scamers.   Instead with the most recent reviews for your area.  You research should include their ads where pictures are often found.  You'll need to check out their reviews.  Just because the gal claims to have reviews...  might even have a link or a TER number...  does not mean thereviews are GOOD.  Amazing!  
     
  I'm also on limited income & can't afford to lose out to a scammer.          

AlexandraMilw See my TER Reviews 491 reads
posted
13 / 26
Good point

but must be stressed that he needs to check reviews etc before booking with BP ladies. A few are great and well reviewed, others are rips off etc.  

Normally the guys here on this board just say NO to BP ads because the newbies don't do their homework and check properly.  

You seem to treat your guys well and are fair, I think that is nice of you.
Posted By: BeautywithBrains
....if the lady he wishes to see has great reviews, and board presence?    
   
     In addition, many ladies such as myself, do not charge extra for outcalls.  If I am crossing the river, I might ask for a two hour minimum, but I would never charge extra for an outcall in the district.  The cost of taxi/Uber fare is included in my gift: cost of doing business.  
   
     Just my .02.  
   
 Hugs and Kisses,  
 Kelly

Jstgttnstrtd 18 Reviews 518 reads
posted
14 / 26
a nice AMP experience would be more in your range

Might want to research your local AMPS.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 429 reads
posted
15 / 26
You can shop on BP but be sure to verify any lady you are interested . . .

in seeing.  TER has a good data base for verifying ladies.  In my experience, whenever I use this method, very few ladies are reviewed here.  If no reviews, I pass.

dannyotk 514 reads
posted
16 / 26
Re: You can shop on BP but be sure to verify any lady you are interested . . .

Thank You ALL
so much great info  
Kelly you seem like every guys Dream! almost to good to be true Class Great Looks Brains Thank You too

Posted By: keystonekid
in seeing.  TER has a good data base for verifying ladies.  In my experience, whenever I use this method, very few ladies are reviewed here.  If no reviews, I pass.

dannyotk 498 reads
posted
17 / 26
truth is

I am mostly looking for some lite S&M so AMP in not the way to go
kinda hard to discuss on phone/email

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 448 reads
posted
18 / 26
Welcome back stranger. :) eom


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cmonseriously 2 Reviews 620 reads
posted
19 / 26
I have to agree with you

I used a combination BP and TER for my first experience. I definitely wouldn't have contacted anyone if the only information was from a BP review, but the combo of BP and TER is very useful (it's especially nice when some women put their TER ID in their BP ad).

The better advice to the newbs (like me) is to not contact anyone unless you've ready reviews from reputable people.

GaGambler 454 reads
posted
20 / 26
I hate to say this, You may be shopping for a Mercedes, but on a Chevy budget

If you can't cough up the few bucks to get a VIP membership, even for a month or two, you may seriously want to consider another hobby.

dannyotk 609 reads
posted
21 / 26
Re: I hate to say this, You may be shopping for a Mercedes, but on a Chevy budget

funny thing i felt since no lady is going to reply i may as well buy VIP but it wont activate so I still cant not read about what i am missing

JackDunphy 461 reads
posted
22 / 26
Good for you. You worked your way through BP hysteria with logic.

The BP bashing on this site is insane. BP (or ANY advertising mall) without TER? FK, no. With TER? All good.

1192967 45 Reviews 551 reads
posted
23 / 26
Depending on how recently you paid for the VIP it should be active...

...pretty quick. Try logging of and logging back in. It will say VIP member in the little box to the right. (Gold banner) If it doesn't activate soon use the "Contact Us" lnk at the bottom of any page (all the way down) and explain and ask what's up.

AlexandraMilw See my TER Reviews 438 reads
posted
24 / 26
Thanks, I missed everyone (eom)


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HandsomeDevil 26 Reviews 642 reads
posted
25 / 26
TER is your best bet at finding worthwhile BP girls

I'll endorse what others have said about using BP and TER together, but to avoid driving yourself nuts I'd suggest using TER rather than the other way around. Do a search on TER in your area and check the ad links in the results.

You can find gems on a budget. A girl near my location charges 140 an hour, has a great attitude, likes to kiss, bbbj, etc. She's not the prettiest girl ever but she's got a nice body and had good hygiene. At the least you should be able to find a few girls that charge 200 per hour. The half hour rate will generally be 120-140.  

Depending on how often you plan to see escorts it might be worth it to consider getting a P411 account. For instance, a 90 minute session with a hot babe that requires verification might run $350-600. If that was something you were interested in doing 3-4 times a year, the verification is necessary but ends up being a fraction of the overall cost.  

Also, with the girls on BP I've found that saying less is more. Just "Hi (name), would like to visit you if you're available" and the ball is in their court.

Anyway, I got my start on BP not even knowing TER existed and it was an experience I don't care to repeat, and I have money to burn. Judging the ads is difficult for me even now. A lot of girls on BP I've thought about seeing got their first review and in many cases I'm like "Damn I'm glad someone else TOFTT". Take your time, use TER and play it smart so you don't end up feeling swindled and discouraged.
Posted By: dannyotk
i have called several providers and asked to get together BUT NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER!  
 it may be that i have no references but when you are on soc sec you can not pay $150 or so to maybe be verified on the one site  i found that verifies customers  
 my needs are very minimal and i am not threat at all. mature, respectful, etc.  
 HELP

MissErinBlack See my TER Reviews 488 reads
posted
26 / 26
if you're looking for light bdsm, rates are going to be a min. $250 for most areas.

Especially if you're in any sort of metropolitan area.  

you're paying for specific skills when you're looking for a provider who offers bdsm, and you have to pay appropriately for those skills so that you know you're not going to be injured.  

Save your pennies.  Get verified.  Then save your pennies again for a great experience with a lady who truly knows what she's doing and can give you an experience that you'll be happy to have had.

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