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Why do we do the two-call system?
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I probably ought to know this by now.

I read it in most of the reviews and see it being given as good advice on the newbie board, but why do we do it?  

I email the gent days before which hotel I'll be in. Then I text, call or email the room number a bit before our date. If I've seen the guy before, I'll give him the room number as soon as I check in and remind him of the time our date is scheduled. I don't double book or book back to back and always have hours between dates, so I'm not sure of the reason for two-call system.

The only thing I can think of is when a provider uses an apartment or her home, and she doesn't want her address being on paper. But, I always use hotels.

I've had outcalls to gentlemen's homes, and they give me the address without prompting as soon as his provider references come back and I confirm I will see him, which might be a week or more in advance. I'm not sure why this is a bad idea when obviously I am a legitimate provider and not a thief or LE. Same goes the other way around, I trust when providers tell me a gent is a nice guy.

but it seems a safe way to communicate any last minute issues. Maybe hotel staff have started asking questions or acting suspicious, or there is last minute suspicious activity.  

It is also a means to tell a client "please give me 5 more minutes to finish my makeup". Or a notice to prop the door open on the latch...

Ah, OK. There was one incident where a hotel lobby was being reno'd so the elevators were in a different spot than what I had originally told him. But, I just sent him a text when I checked in to give him new directions to the elevators.  

Is that common practice to leave the latch open? I only did it once for a 9am because the maids are always out in the halls at that time. I prefer to look through the peep hole first unless we're already friends.

Posted By: MasterZen
but it seems a safe way to communicate any last minute issues. Maybe hotel staff have started asking questions or acting suspicious, or there is last minute suspicious activity.  
   
 It is also a means to tell a client "please give me 5 more minutes to finish my makeup". Or a notice to prop the door open on the latch...

Even at a hotel, you do not necessarily want gents to know where you are at until it is time for you to meet them.  Hopefully you will never have a stalker, a vengeful or jealous provider causing you issues, or have an appointment set with LE (yes, they can and do give references too)... There are many scenarios where you are compromised with that specific info out there before it is actually needed.  Even stating which hotel you are at specifically (vs. the area of town) can come back to haunt you.

Often the first call tells a gent the place to go, (and many times, especially with in-call) it is a location where the lady can see the gent making the second call.

A gentleman coming to a semi-public space with security cameras and other people wandering around is NOT the same as going to a fellows house for an outcall.  Getting the address early can be a part of the verification itself, can help assure you that it is indeed the fellows house, and that it is a real and occupied house - not a fake address, industrial warehouse, vacant lot, or home staged for sale.

Please do not put all of your security "eggs in one basket".  References can be compromised, spoofed, or otherwise fail - just like anything else.

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Posted By: StinaValentine
I probably ought to know this by now.  
   
 I read it in most of the reviews and see it being given as good advice on the newbie board, but why do we do it?  
   
 I email the gent days before which hotel I'll be in. Then I text, call or email the room number a bit before our date. If I've seen the guy before, I'll give him the room number as soon as I check in and remind him of the time our date is scheduled. I don't double book or book back to back and always have hours between dates, so I'm not sure of the reason for two-call system.  
   
 The only thing I can think of is when a provider uses an apartment or her home, and she doesn't want her address being on paper. But, I always use hotels.  
   
 I've had outcalls to gentlemen's homes, and they give me the address without prompting as soon as his provider references come back and I confirm I will see him, which might be a week or more in advance. I'm not sure why this is a bad idea when obviously I am a legitimate provider and not a thief or LE. Same goes the other way around, I trust when providers tell me a gent is a nice guy.

Great advice. I NEVER give the location of the incall until 1-2hrs before the scheduled start time(depending on where he is coming from). That is the first call. Then they are to call again when they arrive for the room number. In the beginning had too many problems with guys getting the hotel info, and then never showing up...then you're left wondering if he's outside watching, will he follow you home when you leave, was it LE trying to find out where you are located, etc, etc. Even in the age of references and verification, you still should protect yourself at all times. Also, I require the gent to make the confirmation call...if he doesn't contact me, I assume the appointment is off and he has NCNS...also, if something really did happen(family issue for instance), you don't want to be sending him a text with the location/room number and he's possibly in a situation where that text could get him in trouble.  

To the OP, as for trusting providers that "a guy is nice", can go both ways...you still have to do your homework on that provider. Is she well-known? Have good reviews that are consistent? How long has she been around? These are all things you should consider before taking a reference from someone.  

Posted By: SolaLove
Even at a hotel, you do not necessarily want gents to know where you are at until it is time for you to meet them.  Hopefully you will never have a stalker, a vengeful or jealous provider causing you issues, or have an appointment set with LE (yes, they can and do give references too)... There are many scenarios where you are compromised with that specific info out there before it is actually needed.  Even stating which hotel you are at specifically (vs. the area of town) can come back to haunt you.  
   
 Often the first call tells a gent the place to go, (and many times, especially with in-call) it is a location where the lady can see the gent making the second call.  
   
 A gentleman coming to a semi-public space with security cameras and other people wandering around is NOT the same as going to a fellows house for an outcall.  Getting the address early can be a part of the verification itself, can help assure you that it is indeed the fellows house, and that it is a real and occupied house - not a fake address, industrial warehouse, vacant lot, or home staged for sale.  
   
 Please do not put all of your security "eggs in one basket".  References can be compromised, spoofed, or otherwise fail - just like anything else.  
   
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Posted By: StinaValentine
I probably ought to know this by now.  
     
  I read it in most of the reviews and see it being given as good advice on the newbie board, but why do we do it?    
     
  I email the gent days before which hotel I'll be in. Then I text, call or email the room number a bit before our date. If I've seen the guy before, I'll give him the room number as soon as I check in and remind him of the time our date is scheduled. I don't double book or book back to back and always have hours between dates, so I'm not sure of the reason for two-call system.  
     
  The only thing I can think of is when a provider uses an apartment or her home, and she doesn't want her address being on paper. But, I always use hotels.  
     
  I've had outcalls to gentlemen's homes, and they give me the address without prompting as soon as his provider references come back and I confirm I will see him, which might be a week or more in advance. I'm not sure why this is a bad idea when obviously I am a legitimate provider and not a thief or LE. Same goes the other way around, I trust when providers tell me a gent is a nice guy.

2 hours before I might not be available to be on the phone if you know what I mean.  

And, I always make sure I know his situation and what time of day and how to contact him so it doesn't cause any problems. Usually e-mail, but I make sure I ask how he want the info and how he needs to communicate, etc. I was a paid mistress/SB/sidepiece before I started this, so I know the drill. :)

Posted By: nahtynikkey
Great advice. I NEVER give the location of the incall until 1-2hrs before the scheduled start time(depending on where he is coming from). That is the first call. Then they are to call again when they arrive for the room number. In the beginning had too many problems with guys getting the hotel info, and then never showing up...then you're left wondering if he's outside watching, will he follow you home when you leave, was it LE trying to find out where you are located, etc, etc. Even in the age of references and verification, you still should protect yourself at all times. Also, I require the gent to make the confirmation call...if he doesn't contact me, I assume the appointment is off and he has NCNS...also, if something really did happen(family issue for instance), you don't want to be sending him a text with the location/room number and he's possibly in a situation where that text could get him in trouble.  
   
 To the OP, as for trusting providers that "a guy is nice", can go both ways...you still have to do your homework on that provider. Is she well-known? Have good reviews that are consistent? How long has she been around? These are all things you should consider before taking a reference from someone.  
   
Posted By: SolaLove
Even at a hotel, you do not necessarily want gents to know where you are at until it is time for you to meet them.  Hopefully you will never have a stalker, a vengeful or jealous provider causing you issues, or have an appointment set with LE (yes, they can and do give references too)... There are many scenarios where you are compromised with that specific info out there before it is actually needed.  Even stating which hotel you are at specifically (vs. the area of town) can come back to haunt you.  
     
  Often the first call tells a gent the place to go, (and many times, especially with in-call) it is a location where the lady can see the gent making the second call.  
     
  A gentleman coming to a semi-public space with security cameras and other people wandering around is NOT the same as going to a fellows house for an outcall.  Getting the address early can be a part of the verification itself, can help assure you that it is indeed the fellows house, and that it is a real and occupied house - not a fake address, industrial warehouse, vacant lot, or home staged for sale.  
     
  Please do not put all of your security "eggs in one basket".  References can be compromised, spoofed, or otherwise fail - just like anything else.  
     
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Posted By: StinaValentine
I probably ought to know this by now.    
       
   I read it in most of the reviews and see it being given as good advice on the newbie board, but why do we do it?    
       
   I email the gent days before which hotel I'll be in. Then I text, call or email the room number a bit before our date. If I've seen the guy before, I'll give him the room number as soon as I check in and remind him of the time our date is scheduled. I don't double book or book back to back and always have hours between dates, so I'm not sure of the reason for two-call system.    
       
   The only thing I can think of is when a provider uses an apartment or her home, and she doesn't want her address being on paper. But, I always use hotels.    
       
   I've had outcalls to gentlemen's homes, and they give me the address without prompting as soon as his provider references come back and I confirm I will see him, which might be a week or more in advance. I'm not sure why this is a bad idea when obviously I am a legitimate provider and not a thief or LE. Same goes the other way around, I trust when providers tell me a gent is a nice guy.

While one may know the gents situation and what time of day/how to contact him, there are always situations that may not fit into that box. Take a "for instance".....the family car is in the shop that day and he has to drop his wife off at work before obtaining use of the other car for the day...on the way, they are in a car accident in which he is injured and she is not. A provider ends up texting him asking if the appointment is still on or giving him the address to a local hotel, and the wife has his cell phone while he is being treated in the hospital.....that could create a huge problem. Is this an extreme situation? Of course, but this is why I always have the gent confirm, and never reach out to him myself...just because you never know.  

I also schedule all appointments at least three hours apart, especially if using a hotel for incall, otherwise one could draw unwanted attention, and thus, the confirmation call 1-2 hours beforehand is never an issue.  

Posted By: StinaValentine
2 hours before I might not be available to be on the phone if you know what I mean.  
   
 And, I always make sure I know his situation and what time of day and how to contact him so it doesn't cause any problems. Usually e-mail, but I make sure I ask how he want the info and how he needs to communicate, etc. I was a paid mistress/SB/sidepiece before I started this, so I know the drill. :)

Yeah, perhaps days before is too soon. Maybe morning of or as soon as I check in. The two-call is just not practical for me. Calling when he arrives is good for the room number though. I'll probably stick with that.

My screening is good. I've been lucky to only get provider references from popular, reputable ladies or respected agency. I have other methods I use as well besides provider references too, so LE is not a huge concern for me.

Posted By: SolaLove
Even at a hotel, you do not necessarily want gents to know where you are at until it is time for you to meet them.  Hopefully you will never have a stalker, a vengeful or jealous provider causing you issues, or have an appointment set with LE (yes, they can and do give references too)... There are many scenarios where you are compromised with that specific info out there before it is actually needed.  Even stating which hotel you are at specifically (vs. the area of town) can come back to haunt you.  
   
 Often the first call tells a gent the place to go, (and many times, especially with in-call) it is a location where the lady can see the gent making the second call.  
   
 A gentleman coming to a semi-public space with security cameras and other people wandering around is NOT the same as going to a fellows house for an outcall.  Getting the address early can be a part of the verification itself, can help assure you that it is indeed the fellows house, and that it is a real and occupied house - not a fake address, industrial warehouse, vacant lot, or home staged for sale.  
   
 Please do not put all of your security "eggs in one basket".  References can be compromised, spoofed, or otherwise fail - just like anything else.  
   
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Posted By: StinaValentine
I probably ought to know this by now.  
     
  I read it in most of the reviews and see it being given as good advice on the newbie board, but why do we do it?    
     
  I email the gent days before which hotel I'll be in. Then I text, call or email the room number a bit before our date. If I've seen the guy before, I'll give him the room number as soon as I check in and remind him of the time our date is scheduled. I don't double book or book back to back and always have hours between dates, so I'm not sure of the reason for two-call system.  
     
  The only thing I can think of is when a provider uses an apartment or her home, and she doesn't want her address being on paper. But, I always use hotels.  
     
  I've had outcalls to gentlemen's homes, and they give me the address without prompting as soon as his provider references come back and I confirm I will see him, which might be a week or more in advance. I'm not sure why this is a bad idea when obviously I am a legitimate provider and not a thief or LE. Same goes the other way around, I trust when providers tell me a gent is a nice guy.

Many gals can observe the call point...  to be sure you are alone.  I had one who stayed on the line with me...  gave me directions.  I ended up around the block on the other side of the street, in front of her location.

You set up an appointment with a client for 2pm and give him your location and the room number the morning of.  Problem is he shows up at 1:30 and heads on up being too naive to know how rude, and stupid, that is.  He knocks on your door in the hallway of the hotel for 15 minutes as other guests and housekeepers and hotel security walk by.  Meanwhile you went out for a cup of coffee and get back five minutes after he gave up and left-still ten minutes before he was even supposed to be there.  You are waiting and waiting when the hotel manager knocks on your door and asks you to leave the property.

That's why the first call is for location and the second call, upon arrival, is the room number. Never assume intelligence when it comes to a guy looking to get laid.

LE means Law Enforcement

Posted By: cleaverman
Who or what is LE?

Ah, yes of course! Thankyou!

accommodating in giving me an area of town so that I can plan driving time to go see them. Sometimes this is a well-known restaurant like Starbucks.  The second call is for the exact location whether it be an apt. complex and apt. # or the exact hotel name and room #.

in lining up the next guy to fuck in an efficient way,  have him on stand by and ready for you but without giving him any chance of barging in before you're actually ready.  hence efficiency and security.  it's not just security alone but also a method of lining up the next client on stand by til you are ready.  

it existed before emails and texts so it should be two text system lol.

LOL you make it sound so much like an assembly line. hahahahah

I hadn't though about the guy showing up early. Very bad idea if he's than an hour early. Definitely won't be giving out room number until he calls and parks from now on.

Posted By: Drunken Asian
in lining up the next guy to fuck in an efficient way,  have him on stand by and ready for you but without giving him any chance of barging in before you're actually ready.  hence efficiency and security.  it's not just security alone but also a method of lining up the next client on stand by til you are ready.  
   
 it existed before emails and texts so it should be two text system lol.  

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