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mrfisher 115 Reviews 844 reads
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1 / 16

But seriously, there isn't any way to tell if you know next to nothing about the gal except for an ad with sexy pictures.

thedoctor69 2721 reads
posted
2 / 16

I want to try a few girls that don't have reviews. Just wondering if there's anything I can do to clear suspicion. I did read the newbie faq.
Any odd behavior you guys have witnessed, any things I can do? Things not to do.

There quite a few names/faces that havnt had reviews in my area that I'd like to check out

psych101 851 reads
posted
3 / 16

Seriously, if you have to ask this question, just do not go there.

Secondly, and please take a deep breath and think on it for a moment - if I had a trick, a way to figure out if a lady was or was not LE, would it be a good idea to post it here? You know, where everyone can read it.

Lastly, why are you posting this question with an alias?

Good thing I am not paranoid.

swimtrekr 59 Reviews 1369 reads
posted
4 / 16

You posted under an alias, so you do not want anyone to know that you are a newbie, yet the fact you asked this on the newbie board says you are.  There is not a single veteran here who would give you their blessing for what you want to do.  It is not a good idea.  There is no way to know for sure if the providers you want to see are safe.  If they have no reviews, and you have not revealed their names, how would anyone know what to tell you look for?

What not to do?  That's easy, don't do it!!!  You are only setting yourself up for who knows what?  Unless you can verify in some other way that they are safe to see, you are just taking a BIG chance!  I have been doing this for a few years, and the only way I would see a provider with no reviews, is if someone, either a hobby buddy or a provider, that I trusted implicitly recommended her.

However, if you are determined to stick your neck out, nothing anyone says is probably going to deter you.  I sincerely hope you will rethink this before you make the jump!  I also hope some more hobby vets will back me up on this.

Swim

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 833 reads
posted
5 / 16

If you are newbie, don't do it. Obviously there are guys who will tofft, and we need those guys. Otherwise, how will new girls get their first reviews? Some guys like the challenge of finding a new gem. However, most of these guys already have a lot of expereince under their belt. If you are asking the questions you are asking, then you don't have the experience to take one for the team. Another thing a tofft guy has to have is a gambling type personality and a bankroll he is willing to lose. Sure you may find that new diamond in the rough, but you also might get your wallet stolen and get rolled in a back alley. Spotting LE might be the least bit of your worries when tofft. Not that it is a small worry. Just saying there are a lot of other things that can go bad. Everyone will tell you "see only well feviewed ladies," and that is definitley good advice. After you have some experience seeing well reviewed ladies, if you still want to tofft, that is up to you, but like I said you need that gambling personality and enough disposble income to back it. You will have gained experience, and that is the best teacher. It is hard to tell you what to look for when you tofft.

Now having said all that, if you still insist on doing that, I have a few suggestions. (Oh and don't come crying back to TER if you get burned) I woudn't go to an incall, especially not an incall that is a motel with doors to the outside, or a hotel with adjoining rooms. I would probably only do outcall, but I would not invite her to my house either. That means I would be getting a hotel room, and inviting her there. (Another big expense if she no shows) Never discuss money for services, but that goes for estabished as well as tofft providers. (In the first case it is because they are worrying that you are LE, in the second case you are worrying that she is LE) Check out the lady as good as you can. She may not have reviews on TER but may have reviews on other sites. Google her name, phone number, email address. Tineye, and google image search her pictures. Use all the research tools you can find before taking the plunge. then if you do tofft, definitely write the review. Good or bad.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 885 reads
posted
6 / 16

that means none of us read the others' posts before typing, yet we are all telling you pretty much the same thing! Hope that tells you something docor alias:)

swimtrekr 59 Reviews 573 reads
posted
7 / 16

I just hope he takes our advice to heart.

Swim

1192967 45 Reviews 703 reads
posted
8 / 16

There are many ladies that are reviewed that you can see. Your area may not have a lot of providers but there have to be some you can see even if in neighboring areas. Do your research here on TER and see ladies that have lots of reviews. Many things can happen with unreviewed providers and most of them aren't good.

harborview 10 Reviews 920 reads
posted
9 / 16

until you can answer every question yourself...  

There is no fail safe way to spot LE...  or scams...   I've included a link to a recent thread on scams...  

Newbies really should stick to well reviewed providers...  use the recent reviews for your area to find them.  Your research should include her pictures (are they really her?), does she offer services you desire?  Does she deliver as promised?  And read the complete reviews.  I tend to discount the first review, until there are others who confirm the reports.  
Do you have a hobby phone?  Hobby email?  Know what the 2 call system is?    

Those of us who have been scammed...  are why we so strongly recommend well reviewed providers for newbies and experienced hobbiestys who are risk adverse.
H

thedoctor69 1197 reads
posted
11 / 16

Paranoid? No, not really. Cautious, yes. I guess I can see why you think that though. I wont deny being a newbie. That's why im posting in the newbie forum and asking questions. I'll take your word for it. Probably not a smart choice to toftt. I'll stick with reviewed providers. I didn't think of being strong armed eithor. I am younger and can defend myself, but I guess if there is a group or weapons I would be shit out of luck,

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 1128 reads
posted
13 / 16

Glad you took all our advice to heart.

Now maybe after you have a bunch of experience with well reviewed ladies and you develop some "instincts," if you feel like tofft, then go for it, but just know that even many many well seasoned hobbyists still will never tofft. But as I said in my earlier post, somebody has to, or no girl would ever get their first review! The people that do that, do have a certain peronality, or mentality, and they are usually aware of the risks and take calculated risks. Others think with the wrong head and get burned big time. Definitely not a job for a newbie!

thedoctor69 824 reads
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15 / 16

I may be a newbie but I am very intellectual. Also im very good at reading people as well as physical behavior and intuitive. Course maybe I am just paranoid and suspect everybody of wrong doings lol. Nah seriously, its always been a hobby of mine to read people since like high school. Its been useful in my profession and social life. Its a good skill to have in general, the twisting of words, utilizing half truths and half lies. But of course in this hobby it would be best to learn providers. They're used to dealing with people in these situations.

i'll stick with providers that had been reviewed. You guys seem rather adamant about that. Thanks for convincing me.

Gregolsen147 1186 reads
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16 / 16

The only way you can get a LE not to lie is to have them sign a notarized oath in front of a notary. If they lie, they are committing criminal perjury and may be sued in court.
The notarized statement should contain under perjury. You can ask them on the form what is their primary source of income, do they work for or volunteer for any government agency, are they under court supervision, probation or parole. If they lie, you can call the police and maybe have them arrested for perjury.
You should ask these questions try to catch any snitches. Sometimes prostitute get busted and will turn their clients in as part of the plea deal, probation, or being paid to.  Notary of Public are judicial officer which can check out the executive branch with are the police and the police department. Lying under oath in front of a notary is felony perjury.
Prostitutes think that they can ask if they are LE and they have to tell the truth is a myth. Watch this video about Coco the undercover officer denies to be police. The US Supreme Court said that police are allow to lie.
This is not substitution for legal advice from a licensed attorney who has been admitted to the bar association that is connected to the Barrister Association out of England who receives the title of nobility Esquire.

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