Been in the hobby about 3 yrs. now so have some experience but definitely not extensive. I always try to book a few weeks in advance and relish in the flirtatious emails and texts that ensue over the next week or two or three. I generally frequent higher end escorts in higher end LV hotels. However this time the Provider seems reluctant to communicate much. That in itself is no big deal but when I put all the pieces together on top of letting my cautious mind run rampant here's the evidence (of suspecting provider flip and LE sting):
1) short, one line responses (the type LE might make, rather cold and to the point)
2) not immediate responses, takes a week to hear back from her.
3) while she has over 35 reviews over three years (all good) she hasn't had a one for over 10 months.
4) when asked about this she states "she's just had less time for dates so picks them carefully"
5) a friend of hers states "she hasn't worked in a year. I think she's retired"
6) requested real name, hotel and cell phone number from me two weeks in advance. (seems like a little too much information, too early to me) no?
I can interpret this evidence either way which is raising my spidey-senses. If LE wanted to set up a sting how tough would it be to flip an 20-something-er young lady by offering her good employment and making her the front person in simple stings. On the other hand maybe this is her normal MO and everything she says is on the up and up.
I knooow ... I should just walk away if I'm uncomfortable but let's assume for purposes of this discussion that I've decided to play this out. Do you really think these are red flags that I should heed or just my naivete kicking in? Thanks for all comments.
Your words not mine. Props for using your 'real" ter handle. But the bottom line, is you're the type of hobbyist, that need that "connection" with an escort. You admit to "relish in the flirtatious emails and texts" before the date. This escort doesn't seem to want to play that game, so what makes you think the session will be to your liking. Concerning LE, I'm not aware of a big city police department that has resources to do a sting as you suggest and bust one hobbyist at a time. The want the most bang for the buck, which usually means our little world is left alone. Good luck
I agree with the poster above me. Some girls will not do back and forth emails while others(such as myself) don't mind it as long as it doesn't get tedious or over the top. (I've had guys schedule a week in advance,seen numerous e-mails asking no-no type stuff then when the day comes they flake on me)
You are looking for a lady who has more of a connection, and sadly this lady is not it. You can still try to see her but I won't say "I told you so" when you don't have the best time.
Far as you speculating she is LE I think it highly unlikely...in a city like LV they have a lot more to worry about and typically target the low priced escorts who do drugs and other bad activities. All of what she has done sounds normal to me.
That's a deal breaker! She's not giving you the level of communication you need in order to feel comfortable, just move on. All the signs are there this uneasy feeling about this companion is a clear indication to disengage.
Good Luck
Obviously..the lady is not very big on communication some are okay with this and some guys want more of an connection.The info she requested does not seem like a red flag you contacted her for an appointment she needs to be have this info before confirming an appointment.2 weeks IMO is not too much advance notice.I have had gents send me their info for an appt request months ahead of time.As far as reviews there can be a few reasons for gap in the review history her reason does not sound suspicious to me.If you have to question if you are being naive I would suggest contacting another provider who you are more comfortable with so you can be relaxed when you finally meet.
Good luck to you!
jaydalee
It's your nickel, so spend it however you like. Some ladies will flirt forever to get the business, others don't need to. Most are somewhere in between.
If you want to PM me who you're talking about, I'll give you more feedback.
Oh, Ms Jaydalee, how far in advance should I begin chasing you?
but unless you feel comfortable, then keep looking.
No sense doing this if you're not going to be happy about doing it.
name and cell number in order to screen you. If you are not comfortable with that, move on. The lady's safety comes first.
Not sure why she needs the name of the hotel this far out but she might be scheduling another date either before you or after you and doesn't want the other date at the other end of the strip. LV traffic can be slow at times.
Did you PM any of her previous reviewers to see if this type of response is normal from her?
is that many escorts have an assistant who handles their email with clients, and it's not unheard of for the assistant to be a man.
... to send 3 WEEKS playing sexy pen pal with YOU...?!!?! With all due respect, *she* should be getting "red flags" about YOU! Do you have any idea how many email inquiries most ladies recieve? If they spent WEEKS chatting it up with each and every person who contacts then, they wouldn't have time to actually have SESSIONS and A PERSONAL LIFE! And to turn the tables a bit, if you won't provide her with SCREENING INFO, how exactly does she know that YOU aren't LE...??
Jeeze Louise.
Where do you get the idea that short, one line responses are cold and to the point?
I'm not asking to put you on the spot. I'm just trying to understand what has lead your thinking in that direction.
also...
"If LE wanted to set up a sting how tough would it be to flip an 20-something-er young lady by offering her good employment and making her the front person in simple stings."
Where does the idea of "flipping" someone come from? And the idea that police offer young people who get arrested a job working for them?
If you can identify WHERE those notions come from (because they don't come from experience in or study of criminal justice, do they?) you will have your answer to the question, is it "just my naivete kicking in."
good luck to you.
HalfHour
1) short, one line responses (the type LE might make, rather cold and to the point)
** We don't know you. Even after we've checked your references, we still don't know you. When it comes to communication with an unknown person, less is more.
2) not immediate responses, takes a week to hear back from her.
** See above. After about the second or third email, you start turning into a high maintenance confused fellow who needs his hand held entirely too much. You've got time waster written all over you. You said "takes a week to hear back from her". Well, if you have to wait a week for one response, then wait another for another response, before you can determine that it takes that long, exactly how far in advance of your little tryst did you contact her? A month? Two months? And you are shocked that she isn't willing to be your pen pal for a month just to get a single date out of you? What is this girl thinking? We all want to swap a dozen emails a day for a solid month with every man who books with us.
3) while she has over 35 reviews over three years (all good) she hasn't had a one for over 10 months.
** Ladies who maintain a base of regulars often have long gaps in their reviews. It doesn't mean we aren't active. It just means that the majority of their dates are with men who have already reviewed them.
4) when asked about this she states "she's just had less time for dates so picks them carefully"
5) a friend of hers states "she hasn't worked in a year. I think she's retired"
* Awful nosey aren't you? Why are you asking a friend about her?
6) requested real name, hotel and cell phone number from me two weeks in advance. (seems like a little too much information, too early to me) no?
** Nothing unusual here.
If LE wanted to set up a sting how tough would it be to flip an 20-something-er young lady by offering her good employment and making her the front person in simple stings. On the other hand maybe this is her normal MO and everything she says is on the up and up.
** Good employment working with LE? Are you kidding me? At what, about 1/10th what she currently earns? She's be crazy not to go for it.
No, these aren't red flags.
Wow Stacy! Your final sentence would have been sufficient in response to my inquiry.
You seem to have taken this a little personal. Sounds like the rantings of some of my older acquaintances who have been around too long and gotten bitter rather than someone who shares in the excitement of a youthful pursuit. The animosity in your response strongly suggests a level of hostility that is not conducive to constructive conversation.
You speak from a position of assumption, as I was not "checking" with a friend but rather trying to set up a double date, and you obviously have an "attitude" of confrontation rather than assistance. You should probably keep these kinds of responses to yourself. Too often I see these posts disintegrate into personal attacks that are far from the intent of the posted topic. I for one will not take part in such antics past this reply. You seem to have missed the fact that this was posted on the "newbie" discussion board and is posed as a question from a neophyte just trying to get into this hobby, not a statement of condemnation. We're looking for help and understanding here folks, not attacking anybody on a personal level.
I would suggest you look for another line of work, you obviously don’t play nicely with others. (now that's condemning on a personal level).
I do not see a bitter response at all to your question.I see a provider answering your questions to help you out so why would you tell her she should be in another business.This is a public board even though it is a newbie board she answers your question and because you do not like her response now you have made it personal.Geez,try to help someone out and this is what happens now I see why some ladies do not even bother.
You seem to have taken this a little personal. Sounds like the rantings of some of my older acquaintances who have been around too long and gotten bitter rather than someone who shares in the excitement of a youthful pursuit. The animosity in your response strongly suggests a level of hostility that is not conducive to constructive conversation.
You speak from a position of assumption, as I was not "checking" with a friend but rather trying to set up a double date, and you obviously have an "attitude" of confrontation rather than assistance. You should probably keep these kinds of responses to yourself. Too often I see these posts disintegrate into personal attacks that are far from the intent of the posted topic. I for one will not take part in such antics past this reply. You seem to have missed the fact that this was posted on the "newbie" discussion board and is posed as a question from a neophyte just trying to get into this hobby, not a statement of condemnation. We're looking for help and understanding here folks, not attacking anybody on a personal level.
I would suggest you look for another line of work, you obviously don’t play nicely with others. (now that's condemning on a personal level).
If you think there are too many red flags, then for you there are. Doesn't mean the flags are really there, but you're obviously uncomfortable with the situation about this particular lady. Easy solution: Don't see this one.
Now, in answer to my subject line, look at YOUR post, Aries. The entire list is nothing but assumptions on your part:
1) short, one line responses
Your own assumptive words: the type LE might make, rather cold and to the point
2) not immediate responses, takes a week to hear back from her.
You're assuming she needs to respond within your time frame. Or at all.
3) while she has over 35 reviews over three years (all good) she hasn't had a one for over 10 months.
Implied assumption that something is wrong.
4) when asked about this she states "she's just had less time for dates so picks them carefully"
Would you rather she accept dates willy-nilly?
5) a friend of hers states "she hasn't worked in a year. I think she's retired"
The assumption that her friend is right, rather than asking the woman herself
6) requested real name, hotel and cell phone number from me two weeks in advance. (seems like a little too much information, too early to me) no?
Assumption again that we providers don't really take the time to check references (sometimes it DOES take more than a week to find out what we need to know)
Newbie or not, Aries, you need to look at what you're saying in your own post - and take the responses as you get them as learning tools. If you're feeling emotional about or personally attacked by a particular response, then on some level you believe the responder to be right. Instead, utilize the second agreement: Don't take any of it personally. Simply look at the information you're given, and leave your anger and fear out of it.
Then make your choices about the ladies you're going to see next.
lady with 35 reviews, and they're all good. What to worry about?! LE turns her to be on their side and set up a sting? I don't think so....it takes way too much procedures and paperworks to do that. For a murderer charge? Yes, they may do that. But for a misdemeanor charge?! No offense, but please use some common sense.
It's always good to be extra careful, just don't get extreme.