I know the reference topic has been beaten to death, but had a quick question regarding how providers/agencies treat screening information after they've completed their screening process? Is this information usually destroyed after screening? Or do some providers/agencies keep a "black book"?
I know I don't want my personal and/or work info floating out there somewhere, so any information on this is appreciated. Thanks.
I can only tell you how P411 works: You submit a form to P411 with your personal info: name, date of birth, city of birth, last 4 of SSN, e-mail/cell#, and your place of employment with phone #. They'll call your workplace, identify themselves with a phony company name and ask for you. When you're successfully screened, they create your P411 account & destroy your personal info.
When you contact a P411 provider, she only has your P411 client id and your e-mail address. Your client id/profile lists all of your provider oks & any personal preferences you care to mention in your client profile.
When a P411 provider agrees to meet you, typically you exchange phone numbers, and you better have a private cell, dude. If you're a good client, she'll keep your number in her contacts & you may hear from her again. Some providers will text you out of the blue with a 'Let's Get Together' message. Fun! --z
And if you think they actually destroy this information when they're done screening you...well, as P.T. Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute.".
Are you fucking serious??! Gee, don't they want my mother's maiden name, too?? There's no way in Hell I'd give anyone all this info. about me. And if you think they actually destroy this information when they're done screening you...well, as P.T. Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute.".
Have you ever bought anything online? ANYTHING? You gave your name, address, & credit card number to anonymous people on the internet. I'm sure they kept your info, brother. --z
Every independent lady handles it differently. Some, I am sure, keep everything forever. Others actually do destroy everything. Most, I will guess, are somewhat in the middle - keeping a few pieces of info, possibly with a note or hint about the guy. Some who claim that they destroy everything do not. I will also guess that some ladies who think they destroy info actually do not do so successfully.
Say you call a lady a few months after seeing her, either to re-book or to ask for a reference. You have to assume that she has enough info on you to supply the reference or to re-book you without re-screening you.
Regardless of what you are told, your information is probably saved.
I don't give out my personal information for that reason. However, I had received multiple emails from providers who I had not seen for a year or two. Same with the every once in a while phone call.
AGAIN, always assume your information is stored and NOT deleted. If it is just a hobby email address or a disposable phone #, it's not that big of a deal. Your personal information is. Only give out what you are comfortable giving, but less is better.
You guys need to realize that keeping that info can put US at risk. You are not the only ones who stand to lose something. I do not keep any info other than first name and email or phone # (which I only call at the clients' request). The reason I do not keep this info has far less to do with protecting you than protecting myself. All that info could be used to create a case against me if it fell into the wrong hands. So if for no other reason than to save their own skin they should always destroy all identifying info.
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Gents need to also realize that some ladies are simply low volume enough to *remember* you (physical appearance, basic industry info - not necessarily actual company worked for, basic dynamic of the time spent together, your preference for 'sexy secretary' or fishnets, etc) without needing to keep screening info. A lot of ladies are high enough volume (and emotionally disconnected enough) to not recall you at all within 2 weeks of seeing them - but there are also ladies on the other side of the coin.
Personally, I've been asked for references for gent's I've seen 1+years ago and I can recall the pertinent info sufficient to give a positive referral AND FOR THE REASONS KALI STATED (my own self-preservation) I DO NOT KEEP SCREENING INFO. I do keep the last email or two we've exchanged, but not the 100's that can stack up over the course of our seeing each other repeatedly.
Think about it... a lady gets busted for solicitation/prostitution and while her lawyer is fighting it (because all she actually does is accompany men to dinner/shows and is compensated for her time only), the cops find her "black book" info, income ledger (assuming it's different than what she reports for tax purposes), strings of emails, etc and that takes it from a single instance of potential misconduct to an X year history of misconduct along with all the potential misrepresented income/tax implications. It's FOOLISH to keep certain records FOR OUR OWN GOOD - and as a byproduct of our protecting ourselves, we are protecting you.
Yes, there are many instances of ladies' getting caught with inappropriate records. This is why I always exhort gents to CHOOSE WISELY. You can glean an awful lot about a lady's safety practices by following her posts, yet many choose not to utilize that as part of a screening process. It mystifies me. Gents also seem to show an affinity for ladies who are not thoroughly and highly reviewed (the wonderful, FICTIONAL literotica here), do not conduct screening and advertise in the most blatant terms on the most "sting-able" places (CL/BP) and then wonder why the world comes crashing down on them... Go figure!
Choose wisely!
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I do keep "a little black book" but if I only see a client once, or I don't see him for months and month at a time I throw away the information. Basically I keep the "book" with his name,e-mail,phone number and a list of likes and dislikes. I pride myself on remembering exactly what turns them on and keeps them going. I also note any other information I deem important. Such as one gentleman really loved my kitty cat and stayed awhile after the session to play with her. I note this so as to not only jog my memory but remember little details!
I do not hang on to a ton of crap. After our appt I have your name and # left only. I have already cleared you and no need to keep all that other stuff. Geesh if I did I'd need filing cabinets for all that stuff. Its not needed. I keep only the numbers of the Gentlemen I plan to see again. I do not have a black book I have a very good memory though and see mostly regulars so a new client here and there is not that hard to remember.
This is why when you request a refs from someone its always good to contact her first refresh her memory where and when you saw her, something you talked about to refresh her memory, where you are from any thing to help. We mostly do NOT hang on to all that crap, theres no need for it.
Its actually useless information after checking references.
Once again to many ppl seem to think we all hoard info but for what reason? I have better things to do with my time. I use it to screen my clients after the appt I am safe all went wellI toss all but your name and number.
Thanks for the feedback...good to hear the viewpoint of both providers and hobbyists